Anders 2nd MP game

Ganz Anders · 05-11-2006, 18:37

Serious Callers Only

Rules

1. Diplomacy&Trading

1.1 No DOW until Danzing Event, exception made to event wars(i.e. Italy to Albania, Japan in China).
1.2 Couping of player controlled countries is forbidden.
1.3 No crazy alliances. The alliances are historical Axis against Allies and Comintern, unless countries join either alliance after a DOW. No non-alligned country, like Portugal, Brazil or Argentina, may join either alliance before Vichy event. They can, however, be influenced pre-Vichy.
Romania and Italy are exceptions, and Hungary may join by event.
Commitern and Allies win toghter.
1.4 No one shall ally or coup Nationalist Spain or Republican Spain until Vichy or July 1, 1941.
1.5 USSR cannot grant(or be granted) military access to other Allied players.

1.6 The Allies and USSR may not trade for rares unless their IC gives them a deficit of rares.
1.7 After the Allies are in war with Axis, Allies are allowed to initiate trade deals with USA at 50% otherwise 90%. Once usa is at war any trade deals may be offered.
1.8 After USSR is in war with Axis, USSR is allowed to initiate trades with USA at 70%, 50% if USA is also in war with Axis. Otherwise 90% just as allies.
1.9 Game get paused after the first day in the first session so axis can do trade, after that all can trade as much they want.

2. Events

2.1 Anschluss, Munich Treaty, End of Czechoslovakia, Memel, Danzig and Poland join Allies, should go historical.
2.2 Germany must declare war on Poland in the Danzig Event.
2.3 USSR must accept Bitter Peace if offered.
2.4 France must accept Vichy event if offered.

3. Axis

3.1 Italy free to join Axis after ending war with albania.
3.2 Japan can join Axis or DOW Allies after Vichy Event.

4. USA allowed to join Allies or DOW Axis (if sliders allow this) :

4.1 1 December 1941.
4.2 6 months after Japan is in war with the Allies or USSR. 3 months after Japan is at war with both, UK and USSR.
4.3 1 month after UK has been invaded. Repelling an invasion resets this counter.
4.4 Immediately after any invasion of an American country.
4.5 Immediately after any 2 key USSR cities (Leningrad, Moscow, Stalingrad) are surrounded or taken.

5. USSR and the MR-Pact

5.1 USSR must accept and honor the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact if offered full.
5.2 USSR can DOW Axis after July 1, 1941 (Full Pact).
5.3 USSR can DOW Axis after July 1, 1940 (Limited Pact).
5.4 USSR can DOW anyone, anytime (No Pact).
5.5 May not disband any of its starting infantry divisions during peace time.
5.6 No Unholy Alliance, unless all players agree to it when starting game

6. General

6.1 No use of any exploits or cheating of any kind. If you see anything you consider exploit or cheating you must report it.
6.2 No 'phoney-wars'. Wars declared should be fought to a peace or annexation (ie. no eternal wars with Albania as Italy or Chinese as Japan).
6.3 No stationing of any country's, Land, Air or Navy forces, on other country, prior to war.
6.5 No more than 36 divisions may garrison an urban capital.
6.6 No redeployment/disbanding of units about to be encircled/outflanked/destroyed by land forces.
6.7 No redeployment of units that are adjacent to enemy units.
6.8 Free France shall not have more than 5 Land/Air/Sea units, when declares independence.
6.9 Forbidden to sell VP provinces to your allies to prevent their annexation.
No exploiting of sending exp. forces to save supplies, especially in peacetime.

7. Victory Conditions & Points

7.1 Game victory points, at Jan 1, 1958, decide who claims victory.
7.2 A team can claim victory earlier than 1958, if all opponent players are annexed.
7.3 A team can claim victory earlier than 1958, if other team chooses to surrender because its industrial capacity is less than 40% of their opponents. In this case victorious team takes all surrendering Victory points.

Game time to be decided, around 1800 CET (Berlin, Paris, Copenhagen, Stockholm).
Thursdays, Fridays and Saturdays are not good days.
Preliminary time: Sundays 1700 CET (Berlin, PAris, Copenhagen, Stockholm and Oslo time zone)

Countries/ Players

USA -
USSR -
UK -
Germany -
Italy -
Japan -

additional countries:
Canada -
Romania -
Brazil -
Hungary -
Finland -
Argentina -
Spain -

My ICQ: 280-155-016

Phadishar · 05-11-2006, 19:14

Think spain can be additional country to if you have brazil in the game.

So what happened to you Stalins Elite?

M&M · 05-11-2006, 20:02

did we have a session today ? I'm sorry guys if I missed it, I was playing Savage to pass time till the session started but then I forgot all about it

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Anyways, if italy is not chosen I'd love to take it. Or do I still get albania for being late ?

TIEdup14 · 05-11-2006, 20:33

Hey, I'd like to play if possible

Ganz Anders · 05-11-2006, 21:48

We did have a session today, but it was cut really short, because some players disappeared, and we were too few regular players to get a real campaign going.
Since we won't play untill next Sunday, you have plenty of time to sort out what countries you want, and wether we play the 38 or 36 scenario.

TIEdup14, if you want to play, all we really require is that you show up regularly, have some MP experience, and that you can follow the rules in post 1. In addition to generally being a teamplayer, of course.

Geofactor · 06-11-2006, 05:52

i should also be on time for next as well,,,,sry i was much later than i first thought

Phadishar · 06-11-2006, 07:23

Countrys so far.

Germany-Phadishar
Italy-Winger
Japan-Stalins Elite

UK-Vonbock
USA-Anders
SU-VonManstein

Stalins Elite since you just disaperred could you pleace confirm that you can play.
I would like Vonmanstein and Vonbock to confirm to or we would have to take in some other players.

M&M · 06-11-2006, 11:40

Darn I wanted italy, I suppose I could be hungary if an extra allied player is found, otherwise I could be that extra player

Axis Comrade · 06-11-2006, 13:53

Hey guys. I am playing. Sorry I dissapeared suddenly. After the last rehost my ISP went down. Apparently they were doing some upgrades on the local exchange servers in my area. My net didn't come back on line for nearly 3 hours and I guessed you guys would have pretty much been finished by then. My apologies. SE.

Winger · 06-11-2006, 13:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axis Comrade

Hey guys. I am playing. Sorry I dissapeared suddenly. After the last rehost my ISP went down. Apparently they were doing some upgrades on the local exchange servers in my area. My net didn't come back on line for nearly 3 hours and I guessed you guys would have pretty much been finished by then. My apologies. SE.

You are from Australia, so not a surprise.

Skafsgaard · 06-11-2006, 14:18

I'd like to play. Any country will do fine. Im in if I can.

Phadishar · 06-11-2006, 14:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axis Comrade

Hey guys. I am playing. Sorry I dissapeared suddenly. After the last rehost my ISP went down. Apparently they were doing some upgrades on the local exchange servers in my area. My net didn't come back on line for nearly 3 hours and I guessed you guys would have pretty much been finished by then. My apologies. SE.

We couldn't find a replacement to you so we ended when you dissapeared.
But you will come this sunday and continue I hope.

M&M you could always be UK if Vonbock don't come, since you wanted to play them to I heared.

M&M · 06-11-2006, 20:34

nah, I only filled UK cause nobody was available to play it. I could play it again, but I prefer to have an authoritarian regime.

Ganz Anders · 07-11-2006, 10:51

So as to not force Japan to pus it's belligerence through he roof, I could edit the save after Japan makes China it's puppet by the surrender event, so China gets it's leades and don't boicott trading with Japan.

Phadishar · 07-11-2006, 11:10

Anyone heard something from Vonmanstein or Vonbock?

Eskordelin · 07-11-2006, 13:40

Hi Anders
If you haven't banned me and if von Manstein wont continue, i could take SU.

Ganz Anders · 07-11-2006, 19:09

Sure, Eskordelin, you can join.

If someone else would like to play USA, I can take a minor.

Phadishar · 07-11-2006, 20:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eskordelin

Hi Anders
If you haven't banned me and if von Manstein wont continue, i could take SU.

Why would you be banned if I may ask?

Ganz Anders · 07-11-2006, 21:48

Maybe he backtalked me and thought I found out?
Anyway, it wouldn't be banning as much as blacklisting.

And Eskordelin, if Von Manstein doesn't post here, that'd mean he isn't serious about playing a campaign, so the spot would be yours, unless there's somebody already queued up for SU. With all these different games going on, its hard to keep count of who's who in whose game.

Axis Comrade · 07-11-2006, 21:58

Well guys. I am all for playing. I personally am sick of starting a campaign with a bunch of un-knowns and playing 1 or 2 sessions only to have them not show up after that. Put me down for Japan or whoever, but I will be there. I would take Russia but there are too many naughty temptations there that would upset everyone again.

So I think I will stick with any major but Russia.

I'll try and get hold of Von Bock next time he is in MSN and see if he is keen to continue, would do good to have a good Britain. If he doesn't and M&M don't want it than maybe I'll take it. Never done UK in a 38 scenario, that's of course if I'm not already locked in for Japan. SE.

05-11-2006, 18:37	#1
Ganz Anders Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 1,004	Anders 2nd MP game Serious Callers Only Rules 1. Diplomacy&Trading 1.1 No DOW until Danzing Event, exception made to event wars(i.e. Italy to Albania, Japan in China). 1.2 Couping of player controlled countries is forbidden. 1.3 No crazy alliances. The alliances are historical Axis against Allies and Comintern, unless countries join either alliance after a DOW. No non-alligned country, like Portugal, Brazil or Argentina, may join either alliance before Vichy event. They can, however, be influenced pre-Vichy. Romania and Italy are exceptions, and Hungary may join by event. Commitern and Allies win toghter. 1.4 No one shall ally or coup Nationalist Spain or Republican Spain until Vichy or July 1, 1941. 1.5 USSR cannot grant(or be granted) military access to other Allied players. 1.6 The Allies and USSR may not trade for rares unless their IC gives them a deficit of rares. 1.7 After the Allies are in war with Axis, Allies are allowed to initiate trade deals with USA at 50% otherwise 90%. Once usa is at war any trade deals may be offered. 1.8 After USSR is in war with Axis, USSR is allowed to initiate trades with USA at 70%, 50% if USA is also in war with Axis. Otherwise 90% just as allies. 1.9 Game get paused after the first day in the first session so axis can do trade, after that all can trade as much they want. 2. Events 2.1 Anschluss, Munich Treaty, End of Czechoslovakia, Memel, Danzig and Poland join Allies, should go historical. 2.2 Germany must declare war on Poland in the Danzig Event. 2.3 USSR must accept Bitter Peace if offered. 2.4 France must accept Vichy event if offered. 3. Axis 3.1 Italy free to join Axis after ending war with albania. 3.2 Japan can join Axis or DOW Allies after Vichy Event. 4. USA allowed to join Allies or DOW Axis (if sliders allow this) : 4.1 1 December 1941. 4.2 6 months after Japan is in war with the Allies or USSR. 3 months after Japan is at war with both, UK and USSR. 4.3 1 month after UK has been invaded. Repelling an invasion resets this counter. 4.4 Immediately after any invasion of an American country. 4.5 Immediately after any 2 key USSR cities (Leningrad, Moscow, Stalingrad) are surrounded or taken. 5. USSR and the MR-Pact 5.1 USSR must accept and honor the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact if offered full. 5.2 USSR can DOW Axis after July 1, 1941 (Full Pact). 5.3 USSR can DOW Axis after July 1, 1940 (Limited Pact). 5.4 USSR can DOW anyone, anytime (No Pact). 5.5 May not disband any of its starting infantry divisions during peace time. 5.6 No Unholy Alliance, unless all players agree to it when starting game 6. General 6.1 No use of any exploits or cheating of any kind. If you see anything you consider exploit or cheating you must report it. 6.2 No 'phoney-wars'. Wars declared should be fought to a peace or annexation (ie. no eternal wars with Albania as Italy or Chinese as Japan). 6.3 No stationing of any country's, Land, Air or Navy forces, on other country, prior to war. 6.5 No more than 36 divisions may garrison an urban capital. 6.6 No redeployment/disbanding of units about to be encircled/outflanked/destroyed by land forces. 6.7 No redeployment of units that are adjacent to enemy units. 6.8 Free France shall not have more than 5 Land/Air/Sea units, when declares independence. 6.9 Forbidden to sell VP provinces to your allies to prevent their annexation. No exploiting of sending exp. forces to save supplies, especially in peacetime. 7. Victory Conditions & Points 7.1 Game victory points, at Jan 1, 1958, decide who claims victory. 7.2 A team can claim victory earlier than 1958, if all opponent players are annexed. 7.3 A team can claim victory earlier than 1958, if other team chooses to surrender because its industrial capacity is less than 40% of their opponents. In this case victorious team takes all surrendering Victory points. Game time to be decided, around 1800 CET (Berlin, Paris, Copenhagen, Stockholm). Thursdays, Fridays and Saturdays are not good days. Preliminary time: Sundays 1700 CET (Berlin, PAris, Copenhagen, Stockholm and Oslo time zone) Countries/ Players USA - USSR - UK - Germany - Italy - Japan - additional countries: Canada - Romania - Brazil - Hungary - Finland - Argentina - Spain - My ICQ: 280-155-016 Last edited by Ganz Anders; 29-11-2006 at 20:04.

05-11-2006, 19:14	#2
Phadishar Major Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: In the shadows watching your every move Posts: 706	Think spain can be additional country to if you have brazil in the game. So what happened to you Stalins Elite? __________________ Do not ask which creature screams in the night. Do not question who awaits for you in the shadows. It is my cry that wakes you in the night, and my body that crouches in the shadows. I am not your worst nightmare, I am your every nightmare. I am Phadishar and you are the puppet that dances to my tune.

05-11-2006, 20:02	#3
M&M Colonel Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Egypt Posts: 903	did we have a session today ? I'm sorry guys if I missed it, I was playing Savage to pass time till the session started but then I forgot all about it . Anyways, if italy is not chosen I'd love to take it. Or do I still get albania for being late ? __________________ "War does not determine who is right, only who is left." -Bertrand Russell "An Eye for and Eye Makes the Whole World Blind." -Ghandi

06-11-2006, 07:23	#7
Phadishar Major Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: In the shadows watching your every move Posts: 706	Countrys so far. Germany-Phadishar Italy-Winger Japan-Stalins Elite UK-Vonbock USA-Anders SU-VonManstein Stalins Elite since you just disaperred could you pleace confirm that you can play. I would like Vonmanstein and Vonbock to confirm to or we would have to take in some other players. __________________ Do not ask which creature screams in the night. Do not question who awaits for you in the shadows. It is my cry that wakes you in the night, and my body that crouches in the shadows. I am not your worst nightmare, I am your every nightmare. I am Phadishar and you are the puppet that dances to my tune.

06-11-2006, 11:40	#8
M&M Colonel Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Egypt Posts: 903	Darn I wanted italy, I suppose I could be hungary if an extra allied player is found, otherwise I could be that extra player __________________ "War does not determine who is right, only who is left." -Bertrand Russell "An Eye for and Eye Makes the Whole World Blind." -Ghandi

05-11-2006, 20:33	#4
TIEdup14 Private Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 10	Hey, I'd like to play if possible

05-11-2006, 21:48	#5
Ganz Anders Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 1,004	We did have a session today, but it was cut really short, because some players disappeared, and we were too few regular players to get a real campaign going. Since we won't play untill next Sunday, you have plenty of time to sort out what countries you want, and wether we play the 38 or 36 scenario. TIEdup14, if you want to play, all we really require is that you show up regularly, have some MP experience, and that you can follow the rules in post 1. In addition to generally being a teamplayer, of course.

06-11-2006, 05:52	#6
Geofactor Major Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: ohio USA Posts: 694	i should also be on time for next as well,,,,sry i was much later than i first thought

06-11-2006, 13:53	#9
Axis Comrade Colonel Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 1,127	Hey guys. I am playing. Sorry I dissapeared suddenly. After the last rehost my ISP went down. Apparently they were doing some upgrades on the local exchange servers in my area. My net didn't come back on line for nearly 3 hours and I guessed you guys would have pretty much been finished by then. My apologies. SE.

06-11-2006, 14:18	#11
Skafsgaard First Lieutenant Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 216	I'd like to play. Any country will do fine. Im in if I can.

06-11-2006, 20:34	#13
M&M Colonel Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Egypt Posts: 903	nah, I only filled UK cause nobody was available to play it. I could play it again, but I prefer to have an authoritarian regime. __________________ "War does not determine who is right, only who is left." -Bertrand Russell "An Eye for and Eye Makes the Whole World Blind." -Ghandi

07-11-2006, 10:51	#14
Ganz Anders Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 1,004	So as to not force Japan to pus it's belligerence through he roof, I could edit the save after Japan makes China it's puppet by the surrender event, so China gets it's leades and don't boicott trading with Japan.

07-11-2006, 11:10	#15
Phadishar Major Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: In the shadows watching your every move Posts: 706	Anyone heard something from Vonmanstein or Vonbock? __________________ Do not ask which creature screams in the night. Do not question who awaits for you in the shadows. It is my cry that wakes you in the night, and my body that crouches in the shadows. I am not your worst nightmare, I am your every nightmare. I am Phadishar and you are the puppet that dances to my tune.

07-11-2006, 13:40	#16
Eskordelin Corporal Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 26	Hi Anders If you haven't banned me and if von Manstein wont continue, i could take SU.

07-11-2006, 19:09	#17
Ganz Anders Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 1,004	Sure, Eskordelin, you can join. If someone else would like to play USA, I can take a minor.

07-11-2006, 21:48	#19
Ganz Anders Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 1,004	Maybe he backtalked me and thought I found out? Anyway, it wouldn't be banning as much as blacklisting. And Eskordelin, if Von Manstein doesn't post here, that'd mean he isn't serious about playing a campaign, so the spot would be yours, unless there's somebody already queued up for SU. With all these different games going on, its hard to keep count of who's who in whose game.

07-11-2006, 21:58	#20
Axis Comrade Colonel Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 1,127	Well guys. I am all for playing. I personally am sick of starting a campaign with a bunch of un-knowns and playing 1 or 2 sessions only to have them not show up after that. Put me down for Japan or whoever, but I will be there. I would take Russia but there are too many naughty temptations there that would upset everyone again. So I think I will stick with any major but Russia. I'll try and get hold of Von Bock next time he is in MSN and see if he is keen to continue, would do good to have a good Britain. If he doesn't and M&M don't want it than maybe I'll take it. Never done UK in a 38 scenario, that's of course if I'm not already locked in for Japan. SE.