A problem with POP's in the North-East.

less_success · 28-10-2006, 20:19

I've been attempting to create a new (and entirely fabricated) country, Ezo, that takes up the northern expanses above Japan...such as Hokkaido, The Kurile Islands, Sakhalin, etc. Everything was all well and good. I started the game to test it, and played for a bit...but as I was checking up on the status of my provinces, I realized there was a problem.
As it happens, my farmer POPs in Sakhalin, The Kuriles, Ohkotsk, Petropavlovsk etc. are working on the "farms"...but they aren't producing anything. I'll illustrate with an example: there are four POP's of farmers in the Kurile islands working at the fishing warf, about 10,000 in number apiece. The fishing warf is open, and as far as I can tell, fully functional...but, when I look at the production value, it says 0.00 as if no one is working there at all.
I'm not exactly sure what could be causing this. I did "edit" and add a number of POPs to these provinces, but I did that in other provinces (such as Hakodate) as well, and they're not having any problems. Basically, certain provinces in my country are operating fine, and others don't work at all. I decided to build a glass factory in the provinces that were having problems to see if they could produce anything in it. As it turns out, they did.
So my question is this: Why is it that these POPs, when converted to clerks and craftsmen, will work productively in a factory...but when farmers, they produce nothing in the warfs and fields. And why is this problem only affecting certain provinces? The game seems to be recognizing that the POPs exist, but in certain situations, the POPs do nothing. Am I missing something here? It's a frustrating problem, and I hope I'm not panicing over something simple.

jonti-h · 28-10-2006, 20:23

Probably a stupid question, but have you got your convoys up and running?

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beowulf · 28-10-2006, 20:24

Do you have transports to move the produced goods to your capital? I think that could be your problem.

less_success · 28-10-2006, 21:04

Thanks for the welcome!

You know, I didn't think about that...but the transports MIGHT be the problem. Although, in that case, why would the glass factory be producing any profit? I mean, it was in the same "remote" provinces that still wouldn't have any transports...But I can check that. If it does or doesn't work, I'll let you know. Thanks again.

less_success · 29-10-2006, 00:01

Hm...Well, I built some clipper transports, but they didn't seem to do any good. It's definitely true that the provinces that are producing goods are on the same island as my capitol...and all of those that aren't don't produce. It seems like the transports would have solved the problem, but they did not. I can't quite figure this out. You guys have any other ideas?

EUnderhill · 29-10-2006, 02:14

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Originally Posted by less_success

Hm...Well, I built some clipper transports, but they didn't seem to do any good. It's definitely true that the provinces that are producing goods are on the same island as my capitol...and all of those that aren't don't produce. It seems like the transports would have solved the problem, but they did not. I can't quite figure this out. You guys have any other ideas?

You just buy the clippers themselves and let your setting for convoy assignment be on automatic. You don't need to make the units in your naval screen.

beowulf · 29-10-2006, 08:49

Just clarifying:
At the top left corner of the main screen is a rectangle with a piece of map on it, click on that and you'll get into the territorial management screen. At the bottom of that screen you'll find the convoy management, click that and set it to manage automatically, then either produce clippers (the goods, not the naval unit) or set your world market order to buy some and everything will clear up eventually.
Your factories probably work because the factory is assumed to be in the capital province of the state which may be in direct connection to your nations capital, while the nonproducing province RGOs aren't.

less_success · 29-10-2006, 13:01

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Originally Posted by beowulf

Just clarifying:
At the top left corner of the main screen is a rectangle with a piece of map on it, click on that and you'll get into the territorial management screen. At the bottom of that screen you'll find the convoy management, click that and set it to manage automatically, then either produce clippers (the goods, not the naval unit) or set your world market order to buy some and everything will clear up eventually.
Your factories probably work because the factory is assumed to be in the capital province of the state which may be in direct connection to your nations capital, while the nonproducing province RGOs aren't.

Ahhhhh. Now I understand. I didn't realize you guys were referring to the clipper convoys rather than the actual transports. It all makes sense now.
Thanks for the help!

beowulf · 29-10-2006, 14:20

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Originally Posted by less_success

Ahhhhh. Now I understand. I didn't realize you guys were referring to the clipper convoys rather than the actual transports. It all makes sense now.
Thanks for the help!

It probably didn't help that I called them transports in my first post.

28-10-2006, 20:19	#1
less_success Recruit Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 9	A problem with POP's in the North-East. I've been attempting to create a new (and entirely fabricated) country, Ezo, that takes up the northern expanses above Japan...such as Hokkaido, The Kurile Islands, Sakhalin, etc. Everything was all well and good. I started the game to test it, and played for a bit...but as I was checking up on the status of my provinces, I realized there was a problem. As it happens, my farmer POPs in Sakhalin, The Kuriles, Ohkotsk, Petropavlovsk etc. are working on the "farms"...but they aren't producing anything. I'll illustrate with an example: there are four POP's of farmers in the Kurile islands working at the fishing warf, about 10,000 in number apiece. The fishing warf is open, and as far as I can tell, fully functional...but, when I look at the production value, it says 0.00 as if no one is working there at all. I'm not exactly sure what could be causing this. I did "edit" and add a number of POPs to these provinces, but I did that in other provinces (such as Hakodate) as well, and they're not having any problems. Basically, certain provinces in my country are operating fine, and others don't work at all. I decided to build a glass factory in the provinces that were having problems to see if they could produce anything in it. As it turns out, they did. So my question is this: Why is it that these POPs, when converted to clerks and craftsmen, will work productively in a factory...but when farmers, they produce nothing in the warfs and fields. And why is this problem only affecting certain provinces? The game seems to be recognizing that the POPs exist, but in certain situations, the POPs do nothing. Am I missing something here? It's a frustrating problem, and I hope I'm not panicing over something simple.

28-10-2006, 20:23	#2
jonti-h Slave of Armok Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: With Armok Posts: 2,355	Probably a stupid question, but have you got your convoys up and running? Welcome to the forum! __________________ Support the right to arm bears Been a victim of Four TIEs Jamie550: I've just read the last ten pages, and now I know why Jonti has by far the most wins No, this is complex Lite with Euros Lemeards and jontis. - EUROO7

28-10-2006, 20:24	#3
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29-10-2006, 08:49	#7
beowulf Buggrit! Buggrem! Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Malmö - Capital of Scandinavia Posts: 8,417	Just clarifying: At the top left corner of the main screen is a rectangle with a piece of map on it, click on that and you'll get into the territorial management screen. At the bottom of that screen you'll find the convoy management, click that and set it to manage automatically, then either produce clippers (the goods, not the naval unit) or set your world market order to buy some and everything will clear up eventually. Your factories probably work because the factory is assumed to be in the capital province of the state which may be in direct connection to your nations capital, while the nonproducing province RGOs aren't. __________________ What the hell is a roman cavalry choir??? "... the entirety of human history can be considered as a sort of blooper reel. All those wars, all those famines caused by malign stupidity, all that determined, mindless repetition of the same old errors, are in the great cosmic scheme of things only equivalent to Mr Spock's ears falling off." - Terry Pratchett, 'The last continent'. 'Nae King! Nae Quin! Nae Laird! Nae Master! We willnae be fooled agin!' "Whip'em tomorrow, though." - Grant to Sherman after the first day of battle at Shiloh . .

28-10-2006, 21:04	#4
less_success Recruit Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 9	Thanks for the welcome! You know, I didn't think about that...but the transports MIGHT be the problem. Although, in that case, why would the glass factory be producing any profit? I mean, it was in the same "remote" provinces that still wouldn't have any transports...But I can check that. If it does or doesn't work, I'll let you know. Thanks again.

29-10-2006, 00:01	#5
less_success Recruit Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 9	Hm...Well, I built some clipper transports, but they didn't seem to do any good. It's definitely true that the provinces that are producing goods are on the same island as my capitol...and all of those that aren't don't produce. It seems like the transports would have solved the problem, but they did not. I can't quite figure this out. You guys have any other ideas?