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30-01-2002, 07:07
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Sergeant
   
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: The Evergreen State, USA
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Hey! What's the big idea?!?!
Okay. I need to vent a little, as well as ask a question or two...
I am trying very hard at rebuilding the Byzantine Empire... let me rephrase that... I am trying very hard a making the Byzantine Empire stay afloat. After a long and tough war with the Ottoman Turks I manage to grab a large portion of my 'old' empire back, of course all this is possible because Moldavia and Wallachia declare war on the Turks in the middle of my warring with them, thus the Romanians essentiall kick them out of the Balkans and my Byzantine troops (all of 10k of them) rampage though Asia Minor and subdue the Turks. During the course of this war, I manage to join the great Balkan Alliance that is Moldavia and Wallachia... I capture a big chunk of turkish land and try to rebuild as Trebizond (my old ally who put her tail between her legs when the Ottomans first declared war) begins to get in on kicking the Turks while they are down... Now the fun begins... The Knighs declare War on me, this brings in the Malemukes... my new found Romanian friends decide the Knights of St John and the far away Islamic empire are just too scary, they break my alliance. Teke, knowing a good chance to kill greeks is in the works, Declares war.. bringing in Karaman. Ragusa has never liked me since I annexed Albania (perhaps beginning my game by annexing 2 Catholic kingoms wasn't such a bright idea, after all) and DoWs me. My 'old friend' Wallachia has joined the team of Austria, Hungary and DoWs, brinning her new friends in to the fray. Trebizond appearently never liked me from the get-go and manages a White Peace with the Turks in order to jump on the band-wagon Lastly, Algieria DoWs on me, no one wants to be the last kid on the block to attack Byzantium it seems (those North Africans are SO trendy). All this War Mongering happening in the course of a month and a half, game time... And my reputation is "Tarnished"... Ahhh I feel better... Now for the questions. Is it normal for everyone to hate the Byzantines? I mean, even in the early game, I had a rough time getting any sort of positive reactions, even out of my Orthodox brethren. Or is this just a case of Minor Nation BB effect, as my annexing Athens and ALbania made the rest of the world paranoid that the Roman Eagle was about to rise again... I have a headache in my eye... |
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30-01-2002, 07:19
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Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Red Wings country
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Your BB is big, and your country isn't that big, so everyone is jumping on you to stop you from annexing left and right.
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30-01-2002, 12:45
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Danish Guy
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Aarhus, Denmark
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....also the fact that u had problems making friends in the beginning might be due to your monarch having a bad diplomacy rating??
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30-01-2002, 13:02
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Location: Stockholm
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Re: Hey! What's the big idea?!?!
How lucky you are!
I am in the year 1703 as Aragon (now Spain) and have been warmongering from start, well at least from the middle of the 15th century. There are only some 10 european states and a 2-province China left to fight me now - all the rest are annexed. In this game no one, repeat no one, has vere DoW me.... I am so sad. I envy you your position. How will you solve this tricky problem? Let us know how you proceeded! A real BB-war, just as in EU1! Wow! How fun this must be for you (this was not a joke)! Yours Daniel |
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30-01-2002, 16:27
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Protector of Paradise
Join Date: Jan 2001
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Ubersandwich:
You might want to be a little friendlier to your allies. They might actually stick around next time a DoW floats your way.
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30-01-2002, 16:29
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Sun Tzu
Join Date: Nov 2001
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Bah, crush them all I´d say. Although continous warfare can be a bit boring sometimes.
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30-01-2002, 17:42
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Kessarian
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: New York, NY
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the moldavians and wallachians might have turned you down because they had no way of reaching the knights and the mamelukes. if ever you get declared war on by parties that your allies can't reach, it might be best not to invite your allies along, so that they stay your allies for the time being and don't join other alliances. plus, they might join later wars that are within reach of them.
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30-01-2002, 17:47
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The funny thing if let's say China declares war on you, you invite your allies to join, they refuse and drop out, invite them back into alliance, if your relationships are good, they'll join back in, and incidentally will enter the war they just refused to take part in. Don't you love that quirky AI?
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30-01-2002, 18:38
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 They are so few in EU. 
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30-01-2002, 18:43
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Danish Guy
Join Date: Oct 2001
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I would love to read an AAR where some warmongering bastard simply gets ripped to shreds....AI nations when ontop in a BB-war should be made much more stubborn...
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30-01-2002, 19:26
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I wouldn't write an AAR, but I was once shred in pieces when playing Novgorod, can't fight Muscovy, Sweden and Poland Lithuania at the same time. Needless to say I quit
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31-01-2002, 01:29
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Sergeant
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: The Evergreen State, USA
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Very enlightening..
As far as my Monarch's Diplo rating goes, Manuel II has an excellent rating (dark green, 5 dots IIRC)...
Rethinking my earlier strategy of gobbling up my two closest (and Catholic)neighbors wasn't the greatest of ideas, seeing how instead of only the Turks hating me, Western Europe became enemies.. So I wimped out and started over. I figured to gain any ground I would need a few things in my favor: 1) Fight only the battles I chose to fight.. i.e. the Turks and only when I had numerical superiority. My soldiers wimp out waaaay to fast. 2)Harass the the Turks long enought to take Anatola. 3) Siege as many Turkish cities as possible at any given time. 4)Hope for a famous A.I. FUBAR... In the new game I started I got all 4... I only fought 2 or 3 pitched battles (unless you count the slaughter of newly raised armies during a siege...). I took the Turkish capital quickly (and luckily). And, most importatly, the Ottomans decided to siege Morea with an army of 20k Cavalry (yep, not a foot soldier in the group) this left the remainder of their army without cav support for a good portion of the war... stupid bastards. To my military's credit, i must add that the Roman Navy performed well under pressure, winning several battles where the odds looked not so good for the good guys. This may have helped to keep those poor horsies stranded on the mountains...Thus I managed to take all the Balkan provences that belonged to the Turks and my Reputation is (ahem) 'Honorable'. Tho, I feel a little cheap. 
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31-01-2002, 02:19
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Join Date: Nov 2001
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Re: Very enlightening..
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31-01-2002, 03:20
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Private
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Tennessee
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Just went through nearly the same thing playing Brandenburg. I was up to 13 provinces and had just gotten my rep up back up to Tarnished. Within 3 weeks game time, 6 DOWs left my 3 allies ( 2 1 prov vassals and the Netherlands) and I at war with 17 countries. Basically everybody in Europe but France and the Ottoman Empire came knockin on my door. I had a peace treaty with France. The way I survived it was to accept most peace offers that just asked for money. I checked diplomacy of every country I was at war with and attacked the alliance leaders with everything I could (including Trade embargo) 1 at a time. When I got down to the last couple of alliances, half my provinces were enemy controlled. If it wasn't for forcing the alliance leaders into peace, I would've been whittled away to what I started the gc with. This is also the first time my allies actually helped in major ways. Four times Saxony sent armies that just attacked rebels in my provinces and then returned home.
Outside of that they didn't do jack. The Netherlands also retook several of my provinces for me. When it was all said and done, I had a whopping 3k army left, 1 less vassal (annexed), and 3 new provinces (including the annexed vassal). At the 1st DOW, the Netherlands broke the alliance. I immediately asked them to rejoin and they accepted (relations were 200 before the DOW).I love this game but will be sweatin' out a few more years with my worsened BB rating.
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31-01-2002, 13:17
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Am I right? Yours Daniel |
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01-02-2002, 01:13
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Tennessee
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I'll be a little more cautious when playing minors for a while.
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01-02-2002, 02:58
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Stuck in the Walls of the Hagia Sophia
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Its great fun getting crushed like that. My suggestion: Get into an alliance with a really strong nation and wait out hte storm. I had the problem as Kleves, when Austria repeatedly attacks me, but now, I'm aligned with France, so I'm safe.
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01-02-2002, 02:59
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Re: Hey! What's the big idea?!?!
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