Manpower

[driftwood]

Can anyone explain to me how the base amount of manpower/province is determined, assuming Quantity-Quality slider is at 5?

I'm asking because I want to create an event for Spanish possessions to lose manpowers as long as the kingdom remains essentially Castillian (since various monarchs complained that they couldn't get Aragon or Italy, for example, to contribute money or soldiers). This would also during the Dutch revolts, since Spain would actually have to ferry troops up or use the Spanish Road, like IRL.

These are the manpower values I found in provinces.csv for affected provinces:

• Flandern = 6
• Brabant = 5
• Holland = 5
• Zeeland = 5
• Geldre = 5
• Luxembourg = 5
• Friesen = 4

Yet in a random game as Austria, this was the situation in 1538 (with quality 9, though):

• Flandern able to produce 17k men
• Brabant 15k
• Holland 18k
• Zeeland 15k
• Geldre 13k
• Luxembourgh 13k
• Friesen 17k

And if you view province info in-game, they give manpower values of 0-2, depending.

So if I reduce manpower through events, should I be subtracting 18k or 5? Does the number of troops have to do with province population (once you've reached city level) or core province status?

Thanks.

driftwood

[Disturbed]

Can anyone explain to me how the base amount of manpower/province is determined, assuming Quantity-Quality slider is at 5?

I'm asking because I want to create an event for Spanish possessions to lose manpowers as long as the kingdom remains essentially Castillian (since various monarchs complained that they couldn't get Aragon or Italy, for example, to contribute money or soldiers). This would also during the Dutch revolts, since Spain would actually have to ferry troops up or use the Spanish Road, like IRL.

These are the manpower values I found in provinces.csv for affected provinces:

Flandern = 6
Brabant = 5
Holland = 5
Zeeland = 5
Geldre = 5
Luxembourg = 5
Friesen = 4

Yet in a random game as Austria, this was the situation in 1538 (with quality 9, though):

Flandern able to produce 17k men
Brabant 15k
Holland 18k
Zeeland 15k
Geldre 13k
Luxembourgh 13k
Friesen 17k

And if you view province info in-game, they give manpower values of 0-2, depending.

So if I reduce manpower through events, should I be subtracting 18k or 5? Does the number of troops have to do with province population (once you've reached city level) or core province status?

Thanks.

driftwood

Manpower is based upon Population at the city level, and Whether or not you are taking out war taxes. Location is another thing, especially if you have a province that is Quite aways from your Capital.

[DarthMaur]

Country manpower is determinded by adding provincial manpower which before that is modified by presence of conscription center x4, core-province x2 or x4, population of city, and state culture maybe?

Amount of soldiers which can be raised in province is solely determined by three factors, land tax modified income, beign core province, and presence of conscription centers (whose can be built only in core provinces)

So, your changes will change absolutely nothing, sorry.

[driftwood]

So, to cut the number of troops available in the Low Countries I could remove its core province status and/or cut the province tax income? I'll give that a try. Thanks.

driftwood

[DarthMaur]

Ehhh, yes... though lowering tax values is bit far reaching solution...

[driftwood]

Yeah, it's a bit extreme, but a large part of the problem in Phillip II's Spain, if I understand it correctly, was that he couldn't get taxes out of most of his territories (besides Castille), so maybe it's just more historical this way

Well, we'll see.

driftwood

[DarthMaur]

Originally posted by driftwood
Yeah, it's a bit extreme, but a large part of the problem in Phillip II's Spain, if I understand it correctly, was that he couldn't get taxes out of most of his territories (besides Castille), so maybe it's just more historical this way

Well, we'll see.

driftwood

Until you got independent Netherlands, and they are screwed by now poor provinces.