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Old 18-08-2006, 02:22   #1
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Spanish Succession Crises Revolutions

As Prussia, the only way I can get the Spanish Succession Crises to fire is to fire it automatically.

Shouldn't it fire 99 times out of 100?

I noticed the death date is 1920.
In normal Viki I never had it fire after 1870 so what's going on?
I'm not at war with Spain, and I exist. Those are the only two conditions I see.

It's been a ridiculous game in general. I didn't do anything a-historical but the game is very a-historical. Austria and France teamed up to take out switzerland. An Italian minor unified Italy, and France has large chunks of it. England has large tracts in Austria. Mexico retook half of the land the USA took from them in the Civil war. The USCA still exists. industrializing Prussia was very hard. Germany is meant to outproduce England, England should not outproduce Germany. There's probablly more. Honestly this is my first game, and maybe every 1 out of 100 option fired in this one game for some statistical oddity, but if this is indicitive of Revolutions game play I'm very unimpressed.

I like the new features though.
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Old 18-08-2006, 03:09   #2
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Germany is meant to outproduce England, England should not outproduce Germany.
IRL Germany only started outproducing Britain in 1913, so it depends on what period of the game you are talking about.
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Old 18-08-2006, 03:11   #3
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As Prussia, the only way I can get the Spanish Succession Crises to fire is to fire it automatically.

Shouldn't it fire 99 times out of 100?

I noticed the death date is 1920.
In normal Viki I never had it fire after 1870 so what's going on?
I'm not at war with Spain, and I exist. Those are the only two conditions I see.

It's been a ridiculous game in general. I didn't do anything a-historical but the game is very a-historical. Austria and France teamed up to take out switzerland. An Italian minor unified Italy, and France has large chunks of it. England has large tracts in Austria. Mexico retook half of the land the USA took from them in the Civil war. The USCA still exists. industrializing Prussia was very hard. Germany is meant to outproduce England, England should not outproduce Germany. There's probablly more. Honestly this is my first game, and maybe every 1 out of 100 option fired in this one game for some statistical oddity, but if this is indicitive of Revolutions game play I'm very unimpressed.

I like the new features though.
Do you have a savegame from this game. if so PM me, I'd like to look at it.
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Old 18-08-2006, 03:33   #4
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As Prussia, the only way I can get the Spanish Succession Crises to fire is to fire it automatically.

Shouldn't it fire 99 times out of 100?

I noticed the death date is 1920.
In normal Viki I never had it fire after 1870 so what's going on?
I'm not at war with Spain, and I exist. Those are the only two conditions I see.

It's been a ridiculous game in general. I didn't do anything a-historical but the game is very a-historical. Austria and France teamed up to take out switzerland. An Italian minor unified Italy, and France has large chunks of it. England has large tracts in Austria. Mexico retook half of the land the USA took from them in the Civil war. The USCA still exists. industrializing Prussia was very hard. Germany is meant to outproduce England, England should not outproduce Germany. There's probablly more. Honestly this is my first game, and maybe every 1 out of 100 option fired in this one game for some statistical oddity, but if this is indicitive of Revolutions game play I'm very unimpressed.

I like the new features though.
oh come on, would you like it if every game was exactly the same?

I love it when interesting things happen. I mean if USA beats Mexico every single time, whats the point? Why not just have an event that gives up half of Mexico to USA on a set date? Same thing goes for USCA, there is no point in the events and options if the same result will happen each time.
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Old 18-08-2006, 04:29   #5
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OHGamer, I'll send you a save or two soon.

I forgot the most troubling thing: France didn't build ANY railroads. In the past even though I get a better industrial score they keep up with their railroads better.

Is this some symptom of the new political system? They're democratic, lasseiz faire or something, but their capitalists are lazy? I was state capitalist for a few years, and in those few years my capitalists built more railroad than France has in 40.
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Old 18-08-2006, 11:45   #6
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For the first time in my entire life, I have seen France beating Prussia in the Franco-Prussian War.
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Old 18-08-2006, 12:27   #7
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In my game prussia went to war over luxembourg which continued on until 1869 and then they peaced out, leaving their ally italy to fight. Then the sucession crisis fired and france didnt DOW prussia even though the event choices were correct(i think France didnt get their event). When Italy took paris the 3 hurrahs was triggered even though prussia and France where at peace . Prussia didnt get alsace (because the Italians held it), but i fixed this with a bit of neville.
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Another event/diplomacy remark:

As France I take the option of allying with Egypt in the Oriental Crisis events shortly after the game begins.

The Turks promptly declare war on Egypt but there's no effect on me - I don't get a "Our allies request wid" prompt.

And then the Turks repeatedly ask me to join their alliance.

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In my game prussia went to war over luxembourg which continued on until 1869 and then they peaced out, leaving their ally italy to fight. Then the sucession crisis fired and france didnt DOW prussia even though the event choices were correct(i think France didnt get their event). When Italy took paris the 3 hurrahs was triggered even though prussia and France where at peace . Prussia didnt get alsace (because the Italians held it), but i fixed this with a bit of neville.
I don't know about Revolutions but with 1.4 France had an event which gave two options: DOW prussia, or not to dow.
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Another event/diplomacy remark:

As France I take the option of allying with Egypt in the Oriental Crisis events shortly after the game begins.

The Turks promptly declare war on Egypt but there's no effect on me - I don't get a "Our allies request wid" prompt.

And then the Turks repeatedly ask me to join their alliance.

Bug?
Not a bug since a Turkey-Egypt war is a colonial war in game terms, which makes the alliance not come into effect (same thing if say in the 1890s you are GER allied with ITA and ENG colonial war's ITA, ITA will not request your help because it is not a "full war").
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Old 18-08-2006, 13:26   #11
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Not exactly sure why TallyHall had problems with Spanish crisis, as long as PRU exists and is not at war it should fire, since that is all the trigger is.
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