Netherlands v Belgium

cymruwarrior · 23-06-2006, 23:02

In particular, the treaty of London. Does it always fire at a set date, or can certain conditions be met to prevent it from fireing?
Basicly, is it possible for the Dutch to 'win' the Belgian indipendance war on their own terms without dragging in other major powers (saying NEE to the treaty brings Prussian support, but also British troops landing in your provinces)?
Or is it a lost cause, just accept the inevitable and focus on reabsorbing Belgium later?

Also, what is th exact date of the London treaty?

Edit: Thinking back, i've seen instances where the AI controlled Netherlands has actualy come out of this war with a respectable chunk of Belgium in its possesion, but not viewed the actual events closely. What is likely to have happened here?

Andrelvis · 23-06-2006, 23:34

Try to occupy Brussels quickly and you'll be able to get a white peace before the event fires, and that'll leave you in possession of Arlon and Liége. Who knows, you may even be able to get a province from Belgium in the peace if you do well enough.

cymruwarrior · 23-06-2006, 23:55

Hmm, yes, being the capital it would sort of give you an edge on the negotiating table.

(sc)chronos · 24-06-2006, 00:59

The London Treaty is mere luck for Belgium. Netherlands can make belgium their satellite, or white peace them, or continue fighting them. I think the best option is to continue fighting and annex Liege and Arlon so you get good reserves of coal and timber.

Walen · 24-06-2006, 14:58

If you are playing the Netherlands choose continue war in the event, occupy as much as you can as fast as you can and sue for peace before the majors intervene.

Sleepyhead · 25-06-2006, 21:08

It's nice to get two powerful allies that early in the game. It's always good to continue the war through the event, IMHO.

23-06-2006, 23:02	#1
cymruwarrior Rules Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Everywhere Posts: 623	Netherlands v Belgium In particular, the treaty of London. Does it always fire at a set date, or can certain conditions be met to prevent it from fireing? Basicly, is it possible for the Dutch to 'win' the Belgian indipendance war on their own terms without dragging in other major powers (saying NEE to the treaty brings Prussian support, but also British troops landing in your provinces)? Or is it a lost cause, just accept the inevitable and focus on reabsorbing Belgium later? Also, what is th exact date of the London treaty? Edit: Thinking back, i've seen instances where the AI controlled Netherlands has actualy come out of this war with a respectable chunk of Belgium in its possesion, but not viewed the actual events closely. What is likely to have happened here? __________________ Bah! Last edited by cymruwarrior; 23-06-2006 at 23:26.

23-06-2006, 23:55	#3
cymruwarrior Rules Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Everywhere Posts: 623	Hmm, yes, being the capital it would sort of give you an edge on the negotiating table. __________________ Bah!

24-06-2006, 14:58	#5
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25-06-2006, 21:08	#6
Sleepyhead Cool custom avatar gone :( Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Helsinki Posts: 3,874 Blog Entries: 1	It's nice to get two powerful allies that early in the game. It's always good to continue the war through the event, IMHO. __________________ In the Soviet Union they told us we needed a federal state to avoid war, in the European Union they are telling you exactly the same thing. - Vladimir Bukovsky

23-06-2006, 23:34	#2
Andrelvis Colonel Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 1,185	Try to occupy Brussels quickly and you'll be able to get a white peace before the event fires, and that'll leave you in possession of Arlon and Liége. Who knows, you may even be able to get a province from Belgium in the peace if you do well enough.

24-06-2006, 00:59	#4
(sc)chronos The strong, silent type Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Dersaadet Posts: 271	The London Treaty is mere luck for Belgium. Netherlands can make belgium their satellite, or white peace them, or continue fighting them. I think the best option is to continue fighting and annex Liege and Arlon so you get good reserves of coal and timber.