Questions of a newb nature concerning Force Pool Deployment

Dweomer · 08-06-2006, 06:22

The Situation: Okay, right? So there I was, my ships in the Baltic Sea -- I had taken out Czechslovakia early, causing Poland to Declare on ME! (As Germany) So, I annexed most of Poland with Pretext, skillfully leaving a small buffer of Free Polish Lands in between myself and the Soviets who had declared war on me shortly after Poland but had not invited Poland to join the Comintern, apparently.

So, after extensive preparations for a war on the Soviets with France and England still not at war with me, I declared war on Latvia and transported a dozen Panzer divisions and an HQ with two divisions of infantry protecting it. I had another 4 Panzer divisions in my pool, along with another HQ and two divisions of garrison units to help quell the inevitable malcontents (...with violence!)

Anyway, Estonia, which is apparently latvia's puppetmaster (not that I knew this at the time) offered peace, and several of its provinces. I saw that the provinces made a straight path into the soviet union which was what I was after anyway. So I accepted. I then noticed that the latvia provinces went back to latvia and realized that it must have been a puppet state. What angered me, though, was that now that I had legal provinces -- I still couldn't deploy from my pool into them! What gives?! I have loads of transports and convoys and whatnot, so it's not like I can't get them there effortlessly, but it certainly is inconvenient! >:( I have to put each one on a boat, transport it, then regroup them. Can't it just cut out the middleman? They're legally mine and I see no reason why I shouldn't be able to deploy in them just cuz Lithuania is in the way.

Also: Why won't anyone give me military access even when I'm +200 with them? I had originally wanted to go through Finland, but no such luck. They're stingy with their airspace. >:(

john heidle · 08-06-2006, 06:48

You can only deploy newly built units in a province that has a direct land connection back to your capital. You could not deploy new units in Konisberg before war started, and it's the same not directly connected situation.

Military access is almost never granted in the game except by event or by automatically getting it by being in the same alliance. If you somehow got military access from a third neutral country, you could not exploit that and attack. That was possible in the original HOI, but it was removed in HOI2.

screwtype · 08-06-2006, 07:57

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Originally Posted by Dweomer

I still couldn't deploy from my pool into them! What gives?! I have loads of transports and convoys and whatnot, so it's not like I can't get them there effortlessly, but it certainly is inconvenient!

Yes, it is annoying but the game doesn't let you deploy directly into a province you own if you have to trace through sea zones to get there. As John said, you need a direct land link with your capital before you are allowed to deploy to those provinces.

It's a nuisance, but it prevents you from cheating by avoiding possible naval interdiction when you are at war. Personally I think they could have allowed you strategic deployment to any province you own when you're not at war, but then that would probably have required considerably more coding to emulate realistically, and programmers have got to stop somewhere.

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Originally Posted by Dweomer

Also: Why won't anyone give me military access even when I'm +200 with them? I had originally wanted to go through Finland, but no such luck. They're stingy with their airspace. >

Yes, it's annoying, although sometimes I've found they will changed their minds after some time has passed. Other than that you can try offering a military alliance. If you're already at war with someone though, alliances seem to be less likely.

Dweomer · 08-06-2006, 09:40

I ended up invading Lithuania anyway... How annoying. :S

By the way: Russians are strong! :S They eat their veggies, I guess. :(

My plan, rather than try to blitz a country far too large to be blitzed is to paradrop guys in to just run around disrupting production as I slowly widen my front line and take territory. It will be a crawling war, but slow and steady wins the race, hopefully, to Sun Tzu's chagrin. :O

08-06-2006, 06:22	#1
Dweomer Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 183	Questions of a newb nature concerning Force Pool Deployment The Situation: Okay, right? So there I was, my ships in the Baltic Sea -- I had taken out Czechslovakia early, causing Poland to Declare on ME! (As Germany) So, I annexed most of Poland with Pretext, skillfully leaving a small buffer of Free Polish Lands in between myself and the Soviets who had declared war on me shortly after Poland but had not invited Poland to join the Comintern, apparently. So, after extensive preparations for a war on the Soviets with France and England still not at war with me, I declared war on Latvia and transported a dozen Panzer divisions and an HQ with two divisions of infantry protecting it. I had another 4 Panzer divisions in my pool, along with another HQ and two divisions of garrison units to help quell the inevitable malcontents (...with violence!) Anyway, Estonia, which is apparently latvia's puppetmaster (not that I knew this at the time) offered peace, and several of its provinces. I saw that the provinces made a straight path into the soviet union which was what I was after anyway. So I accepted. I then noticed that the latvia provinces went back to latvia and realized that it must have been a puppet state. What angered me, though, was that now that I had legal provinces -- I still couldn't deploy from my pool into them! What gives?! I have loads of transports and convoys and whatnot, so it's not like I can't get them there effortlessly, but it certainly is inconvenient! >:( I have to put each one on a boat, transport it, then regroup them. Can't it just cut out the middleman? They're legally mine and I see no reason why I shouldn't be able to deploy in them just cuz Lithuania is in the way. Also: Why won't anyone give me military access even when I'm +200 with them? I had originally wanted to go through Finland, but no such luck. They're stingy with their airspace. >:(

08-06-2006, 06:48	#2
john heidle [retired] FM Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 10,274	You can only deploy newly built units in a province that has a direct land connection back to your capital. You could not deploy new units in Konisberg before war started, and it's the same not directly connected situation. Military access is almost never granted in the game except by event or by automatically getting it by being in the same alliance. If you somehow got military access from a third neutral country, you could not exploit that and attack. That was possible in the original HOI, but it was removed in HOI2. __________________ ...

08-06-2006, 09:40	#4
Dweomer Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 183	I ended up invading Lithuania anyway... How annoying. :S By the way: Russians are strong! :S They eat their veggies, I guess. :( My plan, rather than try to blitz a country far too large to be blitzed is to paradrop guys in to just run around disrupting production as I slowly widen my front line and take territory. It will be a crawling war, but slow and steady wins the race, hopefully, to Sun Tzu's chagrin. :O