Moskva capitol of rus?

Sid Meier · 31-05-2006, 22:14

So how would I get around to changing my capitol from Novgorod to Moskva?

germax · 31-05-2006, 22:17

give up the title of ount of novgorod and stick with the county of moscow

Edit: POST NUMBER 500!!! yikes

Sid Meier · 31-05-2006, 22:23

wait actually if I can get Moskva its alpha betically ahead of Novgorod so maybe i can get it then.

ReKoR · 31-05-2006, 22:36

Technically your richest province would become your capital but sometimes that doesn't happen or seem to happen...

Brian Bóruma · 31-05-2006, 23:28

Infidels! Kiev is the eternal capital of Rus'

Lucius Ebrius · 31-05-2006, 23:47

Moscow only really acquired any serious pretence to the capital position already after the time CK finishes. If you still want to make it your capital, you have to give away all the provinces which are chosen to be the capital before Moscow.

Nick B II · 01-06-2006, 00:36

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Originally Posted by Lucius Ebrius

Moscow only really acquired any serious pretence to the capital position already after the time CK finishes. If you still want to make it your capital, you have to give away all the provinces which are chosen to be the capital before Moscow.

Which means all provinces in Russia proper that have a higher income than Moskva...

Nick

Sid Meier · 01-06-2006, 06:14

is there a way to force it by editing the save?

Graf Zeppelin · 01-06-2006, 11:06

uhm may i ask why you wanna do that?
for flavor?
or do you want to RP a medivial sowiet empire?(no sarcasm)

*Veldmaarschalk* · 01-06-2006, 11:53

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Originally Posted by Sid Meier

is there a way to force it by editing the save?

You can, but everytime you save and reload the capital will move back again.

Sid Meier · 01-06-2006, 18:58

a little bit of both actually

Well considering how in my current game I'm th host and because of our current system of loading the game if its really really easy to force the capitol to move then I wanna do it.

*Grosshaus* · 01-06-2006, 19:35

You could edit the base income of the Moskva province to be so high that it is always your wealthiest province.

Sid Meier · 01-06-2006, 22:55

that would be cheating.

germax · 01-06-2006, 23:40

yep, and i'll be there to check it always :P although if Kiev gets the same in my case... just kidding

*Grosshaus* · 02-06-2006, 12:19

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Originally Posted by Sid Meier

that would be cheating.

You could edit other provinces near Moskva to have lower income in addition to balance it out.

Joohoo · 02-06-2006, 13:08

It is a MP Sid is referring to, if he is not playing Kiev in SP too that is

Kris Rhodes · 02-06-2006, 20:53

If it counts for you as "moving the capital" that the symbol for your primary title appears on the map in Moskva rather than in Novgorod, then you can accomplish it by having your demesne provinces all inside the duchy of Moskva, and having one of those provinces be Moskva itself. I think.

This won't change the symbol itself, though.

It's not that all your demesne must be in Moskva in order for the symbol to move there, it's just that if they are then the desired result will come about.

-Kris

*Veldmaarschalk* · 02-06-2006, 21:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris Rhodes

If it counts for you as "moving the capital" that the symbol for your primary title appears on the map in Moskva rather than in Novgorod, then you can accomplish it by having your demesne provinces all inside the duchy of Moskva, and having one of those provinces be Moskva itself. I think.

This won't change the symbol itself, though.

It's not that all your demesne must be in Moskva in order for the symbol to move there, it's just that if they are then the desired result will come about.

-Kris

The duchy of Moskva is exactly one province, that of Moskva

When in your demesne you have a province that is part of the default setup of your primary title, then your capital will be in that province. It is not always the richest, but it it also checks culture and religion.

I have seen a Armenian emperor of Byzantine, where the province of Byzantion was part of his demesne but it wasn't his capital, instead his capital was Adana, which had Armenian culture, while Byzantion was by far the richest.

Yakman · 02-06-2006, 21:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veldmaarschalk

When in your demesne you have a province that is part of the default setup of your primary title, then your capital will be in that province. It is not always the richest, but it it also checks culture and religion.

really... intriguing...

31-05-2006, 22:14	#1
Sid Meier Time Lord Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3,141	Moskva capitol of rus? So how would I get around to changing my capitol from Novgorod to Moskva?

31-05-2006, 22:17	#2
germax Fastidiado de Primera Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Mérida, Venezuela Posts: 582	give up the title of ount of novgorod and stick with the county of moscow Edit: POST NUMBER 500!!! yikes __________________ The 2nd King---The Magnificents---Rulers of Tuscany --------------------------------------------------- MP-AAR Ultima Ratio Regnum....Duke of the unpronounceable Hungarian Duchy --------------------------------------------------- Proud of being Venezuelan Germán Last edited by germax; 31-05-2006 at 22:38.

31-05-2006, 22:36	#4
ReKoR Inquisitor Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 115	Technically your richest province would become your capital but sometimes that doesn't happen or seem to happen... __________________ "Everything has its beauty but not everyone sees it." Confucius

31-05-2006, 23:28	#5
Brian Bóruma High King (With Opposition) Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Empire of Ireland (1005 - 1014) Posts: 698	Infidels! Kiev is the eternal capital of Rus' __________________ Dílis d'ár n-Oidhreacht. True to Our Heritage. 1 Clerk Nationality: Irish Religion: Catholic Ideology: Reactionary Issues: Moralism/Laissez-faire Militancy: 3 (+0.49) Consciousness: 8 (-0.64)

01-06-2006, 11:06	#9
Graf Zeppelin Above and beyond. Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kaiserslautern(Germany) Posts: 1,014	uhm may i ask why you wanna do that? for flavor? or do you want to RP a medivial sowiet empire?(no sarcasm) __________________ Germans are ambitious and misunderstood "Freedom may be the natural state of man, but so is living in a tree and eating your dinner while it is still wriggling." -Lord Havelock Vetinari, Going Postal

31-05-2006, 22:23	#3
Sid Meier Time Lord Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3,141	wait actually if I can get Moskva its alpha betically ahead of Novgorod so maybe i can get it then.

31-05-2006, 23:47	#6
Lucius Ebrius Second Lieutenant Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 196	Moscow only really acquired any serious pretence to the capital position already after the time CK finishes. If you still want to make it your capital, you have to give away all the provinces which are chosen to be the capital before Moscow.

01-06-2006, 06:14	#8
Sid Meier Time Lord Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3,141	is there a way to force it by editing the save?

01-06-2006, 18:58	#11
Sid Meier Time Lord Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3,141	a little bit of both actually Well considering how in my current game I'm th host and because of our current system of loading the game if its really really easy to force the capitol to move then I wanna do it.

01-06-2006, 19:35	#12
Grosshaus Minister of Peace for Europe Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 9,543	You could edit the base income of the Moskva province to be so high that it is always your wealthiest province. __________________ Pity comes for free, but jealousy must be earned - Lauri Tähkä Hearts of Iron II beta AAR Guardian of Democracy

01-06-2006, 22:55	#13
Sid Meier Time Lord Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3,141	that would be cheating.

01-06-2006, 23:40	#14
germax Fastidiado de Primera Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Mérida, Venezuela Posts: 582	yep, and i'll be there to check it always :P although if Kiev gets the same in my case... just kidding __________________ The 2nd King---The Magnificents---Rulers of Tuscany --------------------------------------------------- MP-AAR Ultima Ratio Regnum....Duke of the unpronounceable Hungarian Duchy --------------------------------------------------- Proud of being Venezuelan Germán

02-06-2006, 13:08	#16
Joohoo Successfully Pacified Rebel Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Linköping, Sweden Posts: 3,672	It is a MP Sid is referring to, if he is not playing Kiev in SP too that is

02-06-2006, 20:53	#17
Kris Rhodes Captain Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 399	If it counts for you as "moving the capital" that the symbol for your primary title appears on the map in Moskva rather than in Novgorod, then you can accomplish it by having your demesne provinces all inside the duchy of Moskva, and having one of those provinces be Moskva itself. I think. This won't change the symbol itself, though. It's not that all your demesne must be in Moskva in order for the symbol to move there, it's just that if they are then the desired result will come about. -Kris