Supply Depots/convoys/moving industry/UK deployment/Nepal

Paul_M · 03-05-2006, 11:23

1. One thing that is obvious when you are playing the USA or the UK and that is you really would like more control over your supply situation. By "control over" what I mean is it would be good to be able to tell the AI "set up a supply depot on singapore." And the AI would then daily send supplies to Singapore building up a large stockpile.

This is needed in my opinion as otherwise it is too easy to overrun islands after cutting them off for a few days. A button on the convoy control panel would do the trick I think. Its a bit frustrating seeing wake with about 2 days of supplies on it for its garrison.

2. "Supply Depots" would be useful especially to the russians but also the chinese. The player could specify a province as being a supply depot and then manually move supplies there. If that province is then cut off it has the supplies to survive a protracted siege. This allows for a historical Lennigrad seige, or for the situation that developed around Kiev. Or later for situations such as Veliki Luki, Stalingrad etc.

I would imagine best this would be a button on the provincial display which then asks how much supplies and oil you wish to move there from your main depot in the captial. The transfer of supplies should use TC. This requires a supply line exist, so it is best for pre-positioning supplies to help troops about to be overrun. It should also take time (which should depend on the distance involved) but that might be too dificult. I would rather it be a bit magical but available.

Just to be clear this is for cases where a land connection exists between the province and capital. The case of a island or overseas supply depot is covered in my first request.

3. Moving Industry is currently too easy. When that event fires a better implementation would be to remove the industry in question from the province, add a holder to the strategic deployment with each point of industry counting as a divison (or more than one) for so long as it would take to move from start to end province. Then in 3 months another event should trigger that adds the industry to the province it has been moved to. The transfer of factories was a drain on rail capacity and it took months before those factories were re-started. The soviet union for example should face a significant drop in industrial capacity in late 41 and early 42 due to the disruption caused by moving industry east.

4. It seems to have been removed but I would like to see it put back where you could send a supply convoy to, for example, singapore then send other convoys from Singapore to the various islands. It seems nonsensical to have to send a convoy from england to say Guadalcanel rather than one from Singapore to Guadalcanel. The same is true for Japan and the USA. Being able to send a large convoy ot a central location and then a number of shorter smaller convoys from there makes much more sense.

5. The UK should be able to deploy troops directly to India. I always found it odd to raise the "14th Indian Infantry Division" and then have to ship it from England to India. Possibly this is too easily abused but still it does make sense.

6. Nepal should have its starting tech and AI priorities changed to have it produce mountain infantry rather than regular infantry. Though at least now the AI doesn't make cavalry which is good (the Yak mounted Gurkah's was rather amusing). But Mountain divisons should be a priority for them and Bhutan.

7. Stockpiles should be limited to some few months of current IC use. Resources in excess of this value are simple ignored. Oil in principle should be limited as well since the storage capacity of a country is limited. What value is reasonable is something I am not at all sure of but I don't think there were huge depots of the stuff. Removing these huge stockpiles would make strategic bombing and submarines valuable again. It would be worth the research to actually find out what level of strategic reserves a few of the major countries had. I know the UK had a strategic reserve of various metals good for about 6 months. They sent some 10,000 tons of Aluminum to the Soviet union in one of the first murmansk convoys that came from that reserve. I know the germans attempted to build up a reserve but I am not sure how successful they were.

My suggestion would be for most countries to have a 1 month reserve and then looking at what was done in history for the majors. This also limits the effect of conquoring a small nation and getting a huge amount of stockpiled resources.

03-05-2006, 11:23	#1
Paul_M Captain Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 438	Supply Depots/convoys/moving industry/UK deployment/Nepal 1. One thing that is obvious when you are playing the USA or the UK and that is you really would like more control over your supply situation. By "control over" what I mean is it would be good to be able to tell the AI "set up a supply depot on singapore." And the AI would then daily send supplies to Singapore building up a large stockpile. This is needed in my opinion as otherwise it is too easy to overrun islands after cutting them off for a few days. A button on the convoy control panel would do the trick I think. Its a bit frustrating seeing wake with about 2 days of supplies on it for its garrison. 2. "Supply Depots" would be useful especially to the russians but also the chinese. The player could specify a province as being a supply depot and then manually move supplies there. If that province is then cut off it has the supplies to survive a protracted siege. This allows for a historical Lennigrad seige, or for the situation that developed around Kiev. Or later for situations such as Veliki Luki, Stalingrad etc. I would imagine best this would be a button on the provincial display which then asks how much supplies and oil you wish to move there from your main depot in the captial. The transfer of supplies should use TC. This requires a supply line exist, so it is best for pre-positioning supplies to help troops about to be overrun. It should also take time (which should depend on the distance involved) but that might be too dificult. I would rather it be a bit magical but available. Just to be clear this is for cases where a land connection exists between the province and capital. The case of a island or overseas supply depot is covered in my first request. 3. Moving Industry is currently too easy. When that event fires a better implementation would be to remove the industry in question from the province, add a holder to the strategic deployment with each point of industry counting as a divison (or more than one) for so long as it would take to move from start to end province. Then in 3 months another event should trigger that adds the industry to the province it has been moved to. The transfer of factories was a drain on rail capacity and it took months before those factories were re-started. The soviet union for example should face a significant drop in industrial capacity in late 41 and early 42 due to the disruption caused by moving industry east. 4. It seems to have been removed but I would like to see it put back where you could send a supply convoy to, for example, singapore then send other convoys from Singapore to the various islands. It seems nonsensical to have to send a convoy from england to say Guadalcanel rather than one from Singapore to Guadalcanel. The same is true for Japan and the USA. Being able to send a large convoy ot a central location and then a number of shorter smaller convoys from there makes much more sense. 5. The UK should be able to deploy troops directly to India. I always found it odd to raise the "14th Indian Infantry Division" and then have to ship it from England to India. Possibly this is too easily abused but still it does make sense. 6. Nepal should have its starting tech and AI priorities changed to have it produce mountain infantry rather than regular infantry. Though at least now the AI doesn't make cavalry which is good (the Yak mounted Gurkah's was rather amusing). But Mountain divisons should be a priority for them and Bhutan. 7. Stockpiles should be limited to some few months of current IC use. Resources in excess of this value are simple ignored. Oil in principle should be limited as well since the storage capacity of a country is limited. What value is reasonable is something I am not at all sure of but I don't think there were huge depots of the stuff. Removing these huge stockpiles would make strategic bombing and submarines valuable again. It would be worth the research to actually find out what level of strategic reserves a few of the major countries had. I know the UK had a strategic reserve of various metals good for about 6 months. They sent some 10,000 tons of Aluminum to the Soviet union in one of the first murmansk convoys that came from that reserve. I know the germans attempted to build up a reserve but I am not sure how successful they were. My suggestion would be for most countries to have a 1 month reserve and then looking at what was done in history for the majors. This also limits the effect of conquoring a small nation and getting a huge amount of stockpiled resources.