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23-04-2006, 14:45
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First Lieutenant
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AGCEEP: Chagatai Khanate, China and Tibet
Code:
event = {
id = 501001
trigger = {}
random = no
country = CHG
name = "Dzungar invasion"
desc = "In 1678, Dzungar leader Galdan united all Dzungar tribes and start to conquer Uighur land, with Ak Tagh khojas' help, he conquered Chagatai Khanate and build Dzungar Khanate.
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style = 1
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1678 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1687 }
action_a ={
name = "We have no choice but accept they as our new ruler..."
command = { type = religion which = buddhism }
command = { }
}
action_b ={
name = "We never surrender to heretic barbarians!"
command = { type = stability value = -3 }
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 36 value = 5 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 501002 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 501003 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 501004 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 501005 }
}
}
event = {
id = 501002
trigger = {
exists = CHI
exists = CHG
atwar = no
}
random = no
country = TIB
name = "Death of Sangay Gyatso and Dzungar invaded Tibet"
desc = "In 1630, Gelug sect invited Gushi Khan, a Dzungar leader, to Tibet to defeat other sects. Gushi Khan came and conquered all Tibet, builded a co-rule system of Khan and Dalai Lama. However, the co-rule system become more and more problematic. In 1705, Lhabzang Khan killed Fifth Dalai Lama's prime minister Sangay Gyatso, and appoint a new Dalai Lama without public support. Tsewang Arabtan, the Dzungar Khan, send a expedition to Lhasa in 1716, killed Lhabzang Khan and control Tibet until drive out by chinese army four years later. After Dzungars drove out, there's some revolt and internal conflict in Tibet, but finally, with China's support, Dalai Lama got both religious and secular power, and Qinghai and Western Sichuan officially become territory of China.
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style = 1
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1705 }
offset = 150
deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1720 }
action_a ={
name = "Maybe chinese emperor can drive these Dzungar vandalists out!"
command = { type = removecore which = 1544 }
command = { type = removecore which = 1605 }
command = { type = removecore which = 1607 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = CHI value = 1544 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = CHI value = 1605 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = CHI value = 1607 }
command = { type = domestic which = centralization value = 3 }
command = { type = domestic which = serfdom value = 2 }
command = { type = relation which = CHI value = 300 }
command = { type = relation which = CHG value = -300 }
command = { type = trigger which = 501003 }
}
action_b ={
name = "We support Dzungar Khan."
command = { type = relation which = CHG value = 300 }
command = { type = relation which = CHI value = -300 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 501003 }
}
}
event = {
id = 501003
trigger = {}
random = no
country = CHI
name = "Death of Sangay Gyatso and Dzungar invaded Tibet"
desc = "In 1630, Gelug sect invited Gushi Khan, a Dzungar leader, to Tibet to defeat other sects. Gushi Khan came and conquered all Tibet, builded a co-rule system of Khan and Dalai Lama. However, the co-rule system become more and more problematic. In 1705, Lhabzang Khan killed Fifth Dalai Lama's prime minister Sangay Gyatso, and appoint a new Dalai Lama without public support. Tsewang Arabtan, the Dzungar Khan, send a expedition to Lhasa in 1716, killed Lhabzang Khan and control Tibet until drive out by chinese army four years later. After Dzungars drove out, there's some revolt and internal conflict in Tibet, but finally, with China's support, Dalai Lama got both religious and secular power, and Qinghai and Western Sichuan officially become territory of China.
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style = 1
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1705 }
offset = 150
deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1720 }
action_a ={
name = "We won't allow Tibet leave our influence sphere!"
command = { type = addcore which = 1544 }
command = { type = addcore which = 1605 }
command = { type = addcore which = 1607 }
command = { type = relation which = TIB value = 300 }
command = { type = relation which = CHG value = -300 }
command = { }
}
}
event = {
id = 501004
trigger = {
exists = CHI
atwar = no
}
random = no
country = CHG
name = "Successor crisis of Dzungar"
desc = "From 1691 to 1732, China and Dzungar had five major battles for leadership of all Mongol tribes. In 1745, Dzungar Khan Galdan Tsereng died and whole khanate fall into war of succession, finally, Dawachi, a leader who came from Choros Clan (Dzungar khanate's khan all from this clan) become new khan. However, Dawachi's ally Amursana made a revolt and he eventually help China conquered Dzungar in 1755. Though Amursana make a revolt against China soon later, but Buddhist Dzungar never resurrect."
style = 1
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1745 }
offset = 150
deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1755 }
action_a ={
name = "Side with Dawachi (Game Over)"
command = { type = trigger which = 501005 }
}
action_b ={
name = "Side with Amursana"
command = { type = stability value = -3 }
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 120 value = 10 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 501005 }
}
action_c ={
name = "Let khojas rule us!"
command = { type = religion which = sunni }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 501005 }
command = { }
}
}
event = {
id = 501005
trigger = {}
random = no
country = CHI
name = "Successor crisis of Dzungar"
desc = "From 1691 to 1732, China and Dzungar had five major battles for leadership of all Mongol tribes. In 1745, Dzungar Khan Galdan Tsereng died and whole khanate fall into war of succession, finally, Dawachi, a leader who came from Choros Clan (Dzungar khanate's khan all from this clan) become new khan. However, Dawachi's ally Amursana made a revolt and he eventually help China conquered Dzungar in 1755. Though Amursana make a revolt against China soon later, but Buddhist Dzungar never resurrect."
style = 1
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1745 }
offset = 150
deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1755 }
action_a ={
name = "Coup de grace!"
command = { type = inherit which = CHG }
command = { type = addcore which = 1599 }
command = { type = addcore which = 1600 }
command = { type = addcore which = 1601 }
command = { type = addcore which = 1602 }
command = { type = addcore which = 1603 }
command = { type = addcore which = 1604 }
command = { type = addcore which = 1606 }
command = { type = addcore which = 1608 }
}
}
Last edited by Kavotruo; 24-04-2006 at 16:20. |
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23-04-2006, 17:59
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Porphyrogenitus
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Would they be revolters from the Oirats?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dzungars It would be a big help to understand it if you did it in normal events for. I understand you might be new to it, but if you start people here will help and correct.
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24-04-2006, 00:52
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First Lieutenant
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24-04-2006, 17:10
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First Lieutenant
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OK, I simplified it to five events, they represents Buddhist Dzungars conquer Uighur land, invade Tibet and eventually collapse. Both Dzungar land and Uighur land conquered by China. In Qinghai and Western Sichuan, nomad tribes and local lords who be managed by Gushi Khan and his descendants now belong to China.
I propose give province 1544, 1605 and 1607 to Tibet in all 3 scenarios. In history, there are lots of nomad tribes and local lords, between 1419 and 1639, they are nearly independent, but make them Tibet's territory in 1520 scenario can avoid some problemh, after 1639, Gushi Khan conquer these provinces and rule them from Lhasa, so they should belong to Tibet in 1648 scenario too. What do you think? Thanks. |
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26-04-2006, 17:00
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Watery Tart
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Good attempt, this area needs work...but I have a couple of problems. Dzungar Khanate will be easier to simulate when a new map comes along, but right now it's smack dab in the middle of PTI, so we can only mod the effects to neighbors. As far as I know, when Galdan conquered Kashgaria, it was not annexed but kept as a seperate kingdom......the one king, seperate kingdoms bit. Although Galdan was a Buddhist Priest, Buddhism was not imposed on Kashgaria, so I'm not sure converting the state religion to Buddhism is the way to go here. When a new map comes along, I would go with Dzungaria getting the option to vassalize, annex, etc.
And I don't think China should get to inherit CHG wholesale. They had to conquer this territory. I think you could model them getting sucked into the conflict between Dzungaria and Tibet, which leads to them conquering all the way to Balkhash. Finally, I really don't think Tibet should own the area around Xinjiang in all three scenerios. This was independent off and on and we already have a country set up for it. ( Ha Mi ) One of these days Uigharistan will get split too.
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27-04-2006, 01:40
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What about culture and religion for the provinces (tibetan and Buddhist), no change? Remember Sichuan is han and Konfucian and state culture of Ha Mi is uighur with Konfucian religion. No problem in 1520 and 1648 scenarios : Qinghai to Chagatai and Xinjiang to China. Btw, could someone tell me why Xining is sunni in all scenarios (always owned by China)?
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27-04-2006, 03:46
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First Lieutenant
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2, Get a conquer-Dzungars ai and core instead of inherit? 3, Vanilla EU2 have a mistake, Sichuan's and Xinjiang's name in map swapped and code too, so province 1544 is "Xinjiang"in map. |
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27-04-2006, 04:08
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First Lieutenant
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Why Ha Mi had konfucian and its province had han culture? This small vassal's rulers are mongol prince, and its population mainly are Uighurs. |
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27-04-2006, 13:45
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Watery Tart
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And yes, IMHO they should get a conquer Dzungar.ai and some troops in the west when the conflict over Tibet happens
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28-04-2006, 01:42
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First Lieutenant
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1419-1639, Qinghai and Qaidam pendi not belong to Tibet, but not belong to Chagatai or Ha Mi too. How to represent this in game?
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28-04-2006, 13:39
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Watery Tart
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29-04-2006, 02:40
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First Lieutenant
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How about an event of Altan Khan or Gushi Khan take Qinghai? Happen to Tibet, for non-mymap agceep. |
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