[New game]You've Got To Die For The Government

Joohoo · 15-03-2006, 22:33

You've Got To Die For The Government

With permission of Seen I have borrowed this picture.

Gametime: Thursdays, 19.00 CET - 23.00 CET and maybe further if everyone is able to.
Next session: 23 March
GM Joohoo
CO-GM/Editor Seen / Joohoo
Host: Seen
Scenario: Ryos AoD 1.4 mod. Download here

Option Settings:
Difficulty: Mediocrity
A.I Agressiveness: Normal
Equal DP Sliders = OFF
North American Minors = OFF
Sub-Saharan Minors = ON
Expanded Random Events = OFF
COT Shuffling = OFF
Minimal Events = OFF
Improved Tax distribuition = ON
Improved Manpower distribuition = ON
Improved Goods distribuition = ON
Spain / Otto Boost: OFF
Naval / Land locked slider: OFF

Added to the scenario file
* Perm CB on all human played nations for everyone
* Extra cores to Brandenburg if we will have a BB.
* Downgrade Constantinople fortress to medium is fine
* Fix Chinese forts, Beijing from mighty to medium.
* Samara got its gold back.

Essential Rules:
1. Obey the GMs. They are your Gods.

2. You can two regular vassals by war and one historical. No more, no less, if you are unsure of something, ask the GM.

3. There's a stab hit rule:
If you get a peace proposal by an opponent in a war and

You are at stab -3

The relevant war score for the peace offer is -99 for you

and you have been in war for at least 3 years at -99 WS with the nation making the proposal you must accept the proposal.

4. Using certain exploits is forbidden.

5. Play long term
- Always notify the GM/CO-GM in advance if you are unable to play a session. Preferably days in advanced.
- Find your own sub, or risk being AI or get a less skilled sub.
- Be online on ICQ/MSN for importent information before the session start.
This also makes it easier for the GM to get an overview of the roster before the game starts.
- Try to enter the Vnet atleast 5 minutes before session starts. To download save. This will save alot of time and means more play time. Which is what this game is for. To play and have fun.

6. Editing will be kept to a minimum and all edits will be done after or before a session, not in middle of session(there were and will be exceptions....).

7. Max 6 provinces may be gained by an alliance in a war by the opposing alliance. However, there's a max of 3 per nation. (So a single nation peacing is max allowed to take 3 provinces.) An alliance is defined as any number of nations fighting a common enemy at the same time. A war is defined as a period of warfare followed by at least 5 years of peace (to prevent immediate DOWs on struck down enemy after one alliance peaced). A CoT counts twice on limit. As does a gold province. If there's a disagreement between the countries in an alliance about who will get what as a fair split as possible needs to be made. (3/3 provs if two nations disagreeing, 2/2/2 if three disagreeing, 1/1/1/1 if four nations can't agree (they're not allowed to take more than their share rounded downwards after all). For more follow same pattern. However if for example 3 nations agree there's nothing preventing them taking 4/1/1 or similar.

8. Gamey behavior will not be tolerated, Use common sense...
General rule: if you think something is an exploit, then it is likely that it is one. When in doubt ask the GM.

The following is forbidden. The list is probably not complete.
• Attacking an enemy fleet with pirates, as well as comparatively very small fleets, only made to inhibit loading/landing.
• Releasing one or more vassals during wartime, to hinder an enemy.
• Force-burning of manufactories, i.e. repeated move and halt orders to an army in a province with a manufactory.
• Using lag to your advantage. This includes (but is not limited to): Sending lag colonists, building lag fortresses, sending lag missionaries, using lag diplomats. (The exception is using lag diplomats to send cash).
• Declaring a 'fake' war on a country, with the aim to:
o Increase the stability of the nation you declare war on.
o Change the religion of a protestant or Counter-Reformed-Catholic nation back to Catholicism before the Edict of Tolerance.
• Exploiting Simultanity: Using the game engine to break a deal, that would occur simultaneously in the real word. This includes (but is not limited to) the 'sale' of something in game.
• Using bugs listed in the bug thread to your advantage.
• Converting from Catholiscism to either Counter-reformed-Catholicism or Protestantism and then switching back to Catholiscism before the Edict of Tolerance.
• Cancelling being the vassal of another player within 10 years, except when an event allows you to do so.
• Vassalizing countries when you are below centralization 8 (EXCEPTION: Brandenburg)
• Avoiding the Spanish bankruptcy events, despite owning the provinces that trigger them for the majority of the time.
• Trading maps with the AI.
• Sending loans to the AI.
• Use of Defender of the Faith.

The following is allowed:
• Breaking a truce, even when at negative stab.
• Not leaving a human alliance, despite the alliance leader asking you to do so.
• Landing armies in the port of a country you are in war with, because you still have Military Access.
• Sacking capitals for maps
Extra Rules:
• Cultural Rule: Any nation that control 75% of a culture for 30 years may claim that culture as state culture, but a nation can only claim TWO(2) cultures. So plan it carefully as a culture gained by this way will not be removed in any case; Japanese, Han, Mongol, and Cantonese can't be claimed and Persian can only be claimed by OE or Mughals after 1700. The burden of proof in this matter lies on the players.
• If a human is forced-vassalized or forced-converted he must remain this way for at least 20 years. Unless his liege frees him peacefully after those 20 years he must fight for independence (if he wants it). Vassals cannot declare war on the Overlord's allies or vassals without his permission.
AAR and intense diplomacy are highly recomended.. Don't let the game die during the weekdays

Roster:

Essentials countries
England - Seen
Spain - Joohoo
France - Ar-Pharazôn
Austria - Matija
Ottoman Empire - Nabuko
Russia - Moredhel
Sweden -
Poland - Chaingun
Denmark - Earendilhe
Portugal - Duke of Austria
Venice - Emp. Alexius

DfG - Die for Government friends:
Dr Bob
Miozozny
K'shar

Seen · 15-03-2006, 22:42

Cool name and cool image! Im proud to be part of this game

STATS

Code:

Moredhel 64-030-926
Sable_Rose 297-828-318
Nabukodonosor 248-872-379
Ar-Pharazôn[GE] 249-064-934
Joohoo 298342882
Seen 271719753
Chaingun aka Petter 150858672
Matija aka Milky 276-021-109
EarendilHE aka tobsen 82941754
aryus86 aka Nelson 203-916-072 
Duke of Austria 199-328-083
Emp.Alexius 201-725-410
Diago Fialho

Gotta love all the people with identity crises

Joohoo · 15-03-2006, 22:44

For stats and other.
Stats!

23/3 session roster:
England - Seen
Spain - Joohoo
France - Ar-Pharazôn
Austria - Matija
Ottoman Empire - Nabuko
Russia - Moredhel
Sweden - Aryus/Mioz
Poland - Chaingun
Denmark - Earendilhe
Brandenburg - Aryus86 - got annexed...
Portugal - Duke of Austria
Venice - Emp. Alexius/K'shar
Persia - Diago Fialho - was not present, Bob subbed them for awhile.

After first session(year 1510):

30/3 session roster:
England - Seen
Spain - Joohoo
France - Ar-Pharazôn
Austria - Matija
Ottoman Empire - Nabuko
Russia - Moredhel
Sweden - Ghosted
Poland - Chaingun
Denmark - Earendilhe
Portugal - Duke of Austria
Venice - Emp. Alexius

1524

6/4 session roster:
England - Seen
Spain - Joohoo
France - Ar-Pharazôn
Austria - Matija
Ottoman Empire - Nabuko
Russia - Moredhel
Sweden - Ghosted
Poland - Chaingun
Denmark - Earendilhe
Portugal - Duke of Austria
Venice - Emp. Alexius

1543

22/6 session roster:
England - Seen
Spain - Joohoo
France - BurningEGO
Austria - subbed by Tonio
Ottoman Empire - Nabuko
Russia - AI/subbed by K'shar
Poland - Chaingun
Denmark - Earendilhe
Portugal - Duke of Austria
Venice - Emp. Alexius

1706

arcorelli · 15-03-2006, 22:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seen

I like the name :P

A wholeheartedly agree. Cool name (and cool image).

Joohoo · 15-03-2006, 22:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by arcorelli

A wholeheartedly agree. Cool name (and cool image).

It is a song made by Anti-Flag. I thought it was a cool name to an EU2 game.

Joohoo · 15-03-2006, 22:57

If you are interested to join, make a list of the 3 most preferred countries, like this:

1. Austria
2. France
3. OE

Seen · 15-03-2006, 23:00

1. England
2. Russia
3. Spain

Kanth · 16-03-2006, 08:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joohoo

You've Got To Die For The Government

lol

not nation not honour not even your family brothers and sisters no..., but government....

Van Engel · 16-03-2006, 11:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joohoo

It is a song made by Anti-Flag. I thought it was a cool name to an EU2 game.

So who is gonna die for their country that's shit?

Sable_Rose · 16-03-2006, 13:05

Might be intrested.

Moredhel · 16-03-2006, 13:23

1) Russia
2) England
3) OE

Sable_Rose · 16-03-2006, 13:26

1) Sweden
2) Russia
3) Spain

Nabukodonosor · 16-03-2006, 14:28

1. England (I have to see wheather I'm idiot or it was just coincidence)
2. OE
3. France
4. BB

Nabukodonosor · 16-03-2006, 14:32

Btw, rather strange name - when I shortened it for my bookmark list this is what I got; YVGTDFTG

So, let the YVGTDFTG 1 begin

Seen · 16-03-2006, 14:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nabukodonosor

Btw, rather strange name - when I shortened it for my bookmark list this is what I got; YVGTDFTG

So, let the YVGTDFTG 1 begin

Rofl, i was just discussing this with Jooh yesterday, the need of a eligant shortname

Nabukodonosor · 16-03-2006, 15:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seen

Rofl, i was just discussing this with Jooh yesterday, the need of a eligant shortname

Government reloaded?

or grrr?

Joohoo · 16-03-2006, 15:42

I prefer DfG - Die for Government.

Great that people starting to pop in.

Dr Bob · 16-03-2006, 16:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nabukodonosor

1. England (I have to see wheather I'm idiot or it was just coincidence)

You also failed with England in newbies 2

Joohoo · 16-03-2006, 17:10

Btw we don't start the session today but hopefully next week.

Nabukodonosor · 16-03-2006, 17:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Bob

You also failed with England in newbies 2

Hardly failed

- it was a good England with a lot of manus very early - too bad we got in verbal fight back then but that is the life

15-03-2006, 22:33	#1
Joohoo Successfully Pacified Rebel Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Linköping, Sweden Posts: 3,669	[New game]You've Got To Die For The Government You've Got To Die For The Government With permission of Seen I have borrowed this picture. Gametime: Thursdays, 19.00 CET - 23.00 CET and maybe further if everyone is able to. Next session: 23 March GM Joohoo CO-GM/Editor Seen / Joohoo Host: Seen Scenario: Ryos AoD 1.4 mod. Download here Option Settings: Difficulty: Mediocrity A.I Agressiveness: Normal Equal DP Sliders = OFF North American Minors = OFF Sub-Saharan Minors = ON Expanded Random Events = OFF COT Shuffling = OFF Minimal Events = OFF Improved Tax distribuition = ON Improved Manpower distribuition = ON Improved Goods distribuition = ON Spain / Otto Boost: OFF Naval / Land locked slider: OFF Added to the scenario file * Perm CB on all human played nations for everyone * Extra cores to Brandenburg if we will have a BB. * Downgrade Constantinople fortress to medium is fine * Fix Chinese forts, Beijing from mighty to medium. * Samara got its gold back. Essential Rules: 1. Obey the GMs. They are your Gods. 2. You can two regular vassals by war and one historical. No more, no less, if you are unsure of something, ask the GM. 3. There's a stab hit rule: If you get a peace proposal by an opponent in a war and You are at stab -3 The relevant war score for the peace offer is -99 for you and you have been in war for at least 3 years at -99 WS with the nation making the proposal you must accept the proposal. 4. Using certain exploits is forbidden. 5. Play long term - Always notify the GM/CO-GM in advance if you are unable to play a session. Preferably days in advanced. - Find your own sub, or risk being AI or get a less skilled sub. - Be online on ICQ/MSN for importent information before the session start. This also makes it easier for the GM to get an overview of the roster before the game starts. - Try to enter the Vnet atleast 5 minutes before session starts. To download save. This will save alot of time and means more play time. Which is what this game is for. To play and have fun. 6. Editing will be kept to a minimum and all edits will be done after or before a session, not in middle of session(there were and will be exceptions....). 7. Max 6 provinces may be gained by an alliance in a war by the opposing alliance. However, there's a max of 3 per nation. (So a single nation peacing is max allowed to take 3 provinces.) An alliance is defined as any number of nations fighting a common enemy at the same time. A war is defined as a period of warfare followed by at least 5 years of peace (to prevent immediate DOWs on struck down enemy after one alliance peaced). A CoT counts twice on limit. As does a gold province. If there's a disagreement between the countries in an alliance about who will get what as a fair split as possible needs to be made. (3/3 provs if two nations disagreeing, 2/2/2 if three disagreeing, 1/1/1/1 if four nations can't agree (they're not allowed to take more than their share rounded downwards after all). For more follow same pattern. However if for example 3 nations agree there's nothing preventing them taking 4/1/1 or similar. 8. Gamey behavior will not be tolerated, Use common sense... General rule: if you think something is an exploit, then it is likely that it is one. When in doubt ask the GM. The following is forbidden. The list is probably not complete. • Attacking an enemy fleet with pirates, as well as comparatively very small fleets, only made to inhibit loading/landing. • Releasing one or more vassals during wartime, to hinder an enemy. • Force-burning of manufactories, i.e. repeated move and halt orders to an army in a province with a manufactory. • Using lag to your advantage. This includes (but is not limited to): Sending lag colonists, building lag fortresses, sending lag missionaries, using lag diplomats. (The exception is using lag diplomats to send cash). • Declaring a 'fake' war on a country, with the aim to: o Increase the stability of the nation you declare war on. o Change the religion of a protestant or Counter-Reformed-Catholic nation back to Catholicism before the Edict of Tolerance. • Exploiting Simultanity: Using the game engine to break a deal, that would occur simultaneously in the real word. This includes (but is not limited to) the 'sale' of something in game. • Using bugs listed in the bug thread to your advantage. • Converting from Catholiscism to either Counter-reformed-Catholicism or Protestantism and then switching back to Catholiscism before the Edict of Tolerance. • Cancelling being the vassal of another player within 10 years, except when an event allows you to do so. • Vassalizing countries when you are below centralization 8 (EXCEPTION: Brandenburg) • Avoiding the Spanish bankruptcy events, despite owning the provinces that trigger them for the majority of the time. • Trading maps with the AI. • Sending loans to the AI. • Use of Defender of the Faith. The following is allowed: • Breaking a truce, even when at negative stab. • Not leaving a human alliance, despite the alliance leader asking you to do so. • Landing armies in the port of a country you are in war with, because you still have Military Access. • Sacking capitals for maps Extra Rules: • Cultural Rule: Any nation that control 75% of a culture for 30 years may claim that culture as state culture, but a nation can only claim TWO(2) cultures. So plan it carefully as a culture gained by this way will not be removed in any case; Japanese, Han, Mongol, and Cantonese can't be claimed and Persian can only be claimed by OE or Mughals after 1700. The burden of proof in this matter lies on the players. • If a human is forced-vassalized or forced-converted he must remain this way for at least 20 years. Unless his liege frees him peacefully after those 20 years he must fight for independence (if he wants it). Vassals cannot declare war on the Overlord's allies or vassals without his permission. AAR and intense diplomacy are highly recomended.. Don't let the game die during the weekdays Roster: Essentials countries England - Seen Spain - Joohoo France - Ar-Pharazôn Austria - Matija Ottoman Empire - Nabuko Russia - Moredhel Sweden - Poland - Chaingun Denmark - Earendilhe Portugal - Duke of Austria Venice - Emp. Alexius DfG - Die for Government friends: Dr Bob Miozozny K'shar Last edited by Joohoo; 07-05-2006 at 12:14.

15-03-2006, 22:42	#2
Seen Being Dutch Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Here Posts: 1,291	Cool name and cool image! Im proud to be part of this game STATS Code: Moredhel 64-030-926 Sable_Rose 297-828-318 Nabukodonosor 248-872-379 Ar-Pharazôn[GE] 249-064-934 Joohoo 298342882 Seen 271719753 Chaingun aka Petter 150858672 Matija aka Milky 276-021-109 EarendilHE aka tobsen 82941754 aryus86 aka Nelson 203-916-072 Duke of Austria 199-328-083 Emp.Alexius 201-725-410 Diago Fialho Gotta love all the people with identity crises __________________ "Van Engel was dragged away by his own bodyguard, screaming for Seen’s Blood." Lets play Age of Kings! part I Lets play Civ IV! part IV Last edited by Seen; 03-04-2006 at 23:09.

15-03-2006, 22:44	#3
Joohoo Successfully Pacified Rebel Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Linköping, Sweden Posts: 3,669	For stats and other. Stats! 23/3 session roster: England - Seen Spain - Joohoo France - Ar-Pharazôn Austria - Matija Ottoman Empire - Nabuko Russia - Moredhel Sweden - Aryus/Mioz Poland - Chaingun Denmark - Earendilhe Brandenburg - Aryus86 - got annexed... Portugal - Duke of Austria Venice - Emp. Alexius/K'shar Persia - Diago Fialho - was not present, Bob subbed them for awhile. After first session(year 1510): 30/3 session roster: England - Seen Spain - Joohoo France - Ar-Pharazôn Austria - Matija Ottoman Empire - Nabuko Russia - Moredhel Sweden - Ghosted Poland - Chaingun Denmark - Earendilhe Portugal - Duke of Austria Venice - Emp. Alexius 1524 6/4 session roster: England - Seen Spain - Joohoo France - Ar-Pharazôn Austria - Matija Ottoman Empire - Nabuko Russia - Moredhel Sweden - Ghosted Poland - Chaingun Denmark - Earendilhe Portugal - Duke of Austria Venice - Emp. Alexius 1543 22/6 session roster: England - Seen Spain - Joohoo France - BurningEGO Austria - subbed by Tonio Ottoman Empire - Nabuko Russia - AI/subbed by K'shar Poland - Chaingun Denmark - Earendilhe Portugal - Duke of Austria Venice - Emp. Alexius 1706 Last edited by Joohoo; 28-06-2006 at 17:14.

15-03-2006, 22:57	#6
Joohoo Successfully Pacified Rebel Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Linköping, Sweden Posts: 3,669	If you are interested to join, make a list of the 3 most preferred countries, like this: 1. Austria 2. France 3. OE Last edited by Joohoo; 17-03-2006 at 16:16.

15-03-2006, 23:00	#7
Seen Being Dutch Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Here Posts: 1,291	1. England 2. Russia 3. Spain __________________ "Van Engel was dragged away by his own bodyguard, screaming for Seen’s Blood." Lets play Age of Kings! part I Lets play Civ IV! part IV

16-03-2006, 13:05	#10
Sable_Rose For God, King and your country Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 557	Might be intrested. __________________ Grand Duke of Lithuania, King of Ukraine, Prince of the Holy Roman Empire.. Sable Von Rose. ICQ: 297828318 Playing as Hessen in the Baroque RPG ~1558~.

16-03-2006, 13:23	#11
Moredhel Eavesdropper Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Israel Posts: 409	1) Russia 2) England 3) OE __________________ --------------------------------------------------- ICQ UIN:64030926 ---------------------------------------------------

16-03-2006, 13:26	#12
Sable_Rose For God, King and your country Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 557	1) Sweden 2) Russia 3) Spain __________________ Grand Duke of Lithuania, King of Ukraine, Prince of the Holy Roman Empire.. Sable Von Rose. ICQ: 297828318 Playing as Hessen in the Baroque RPG ~1558~.

16-03-2006, 14:28	#13
Nabukodonosor Lord of the Nazgul Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Land of thousand islands Posts: 2,126	1. England (I have to see wheather I'm idiot or it was just coincidence) 2. OE 3. France 4. BB __________________ "Every man dies. Not every man really lives." William Wallace "Fighters don't quit and quitters don't fight." Ray Sefo "Don't dream your life. Live your dreams." Isolea ICQ: 248-872-379

16-03-2006, 14:32	#14
Nabukodonosor Lord of the Nazgul Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Land of thousand islands Posts: 2,126	Btw, rather strange name - when I shortened it for my bookmark list this is what I got; YVGTDFTG So, let the YVGTDFTG 1 begin __________________ "Every man dies. Not every man really lives." William Wallace "Fighters don't quit and quitters don't fight." Ray Sefo "Don't dream your life. Live your dreams." Isolea ICQ: 248-872-379

16-03-2006, 15:42	#17
Joohoo Successfully Pacified Rebel Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Linköping, Sweden Posts: 3,669	I prefer DfG - Die for Government. Great that people starting to pop in.

16-03-2006, 17:10	#19
Joohoo Successfully Pacified Rebel Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Linköping, Sweden Posts: 3,669	Btw we don't start the session today but hopefully next week.