The Great Game 2

binTravkin · 24-02-2006, 07:05

ALERT!!!
Game has moved to other thread here, please continue on posting there, not original thread!

The Great Game II
Last save (see end of thread or ask Lurken for one, I can't upload atm)
note - you need the scenario installed to preview this file!

Next session: 9nd April 10:00 EST / 15:00 GMT !

Host: Lurken
2nd Host: Tzare

GM: binTravkin
2nd GM: CSK

Be there or be screwed!

Improved map survey forthcoming..

Level: Hard/Agressive
Game version: CK 1.05
Scenario: With Touch Of Astrea

Players:
binTravkin - The Most (Un)Orthodox Tzardom of Rus
Tzare - The Resurrecting Kingdom of Serbia
Lurken - The Holy Kingdom of Germany
CSK - The Wealthy Kingdom of Italy and Naples
Sterkarm - The Warrior Kingdom of Poland and Lithuania
Ganso - ?
Varyar - The Varyag Kingdom of Sweden, pulling the Papal strings
Hey Steve - The Most Cultural Kingdom of Hungary
Goose - ?
BurningEGO - The Frankish Kingdom of France
Riddermark - The Second Kingdom of Bulgaria
Drachenfire - Most Enchanting Duchies of Gwynedd and Deheubarth
Duke Of Kujawy - The Jimenez Kingdom of Castile and Leon
You - Your Realm Of Choice

Rules:

1.Anti-bash rules:
- one is only allowed to bash heathens on the same continent* during (any) crusade. At the moment crusades ebb out you immediately send WP offer. If you are unable to send WP at that moment because of other pending peace, you do it when/if the pending offer is turned down. If the WP is turned down, player must announce it (and I will only believe it if it's realistic, not like Jatviags turning down Polish WP) and then it's fair game for all until the target realm is dead.
And I don't care if you have 1% siege left. You didn't make it, so wait for next crusade.
- one is allowed to bash heathens on other continents* if there's a crusade and target province is owned by heathen you want to bash (means you may not attack Zirids if Fatimids hold Jerusalem and crusade is for Jerusalem).
- one is allowed to bash heathens on other continents* during an ongoing crusade, if any territory of his primary title is owned by a heathen (Byzantine reconquista rule and KoJ rule).
- one is allowed to always bash heathens if attacked by them or if asked to help in war against them (alliance/vassal help call).

* - continents here are Europe, Asia and Africa with their historical borders.
Khwarizm belongs to Asia, Georgia belongs to both Asia and Europe (means being Georgia you've a lot of options), Byzantium belongs to Europe.

2.Anti-grab rules:
- one is allowed to only claim titles that are exactly one tier lower than his, with folowing exceptions, in which a king is allowed to grab count titles:
> the target realm is an independent count
> the target duchy has not been created
> the target duke title is alteady owned by the king or his vassal
- one is only allowed to usurp or inherit titles (or their claims) that are same or higher tier than his.

3.AI BB rules:
- if player misses a session or part of it and during that time his realm is run by AI, he is eligible to have his BB reduced on following conditions:
> 1/2 of AI-made BB stripped if AI has made gains but at the same time lost land
> all of AI-made BB stripped if AI has only lost land

(this rule is specially for cases when game is rendered unplayable for player after being run by AI)

4.AAR rules:
- if a player writes an AAR, he recieves up to 2.5BB (+1%loyalty/month) BB reduction for each session where he did write an AAR. The rating system is yet to be devised.
- if a player writes an AAR, he should mention in first post that the AAR is of this game and have a link to game. Likewise, he should provide me with a link to AAR, so I can put up an AAR list.

5.Some rules from first GG (not to be considered obsolete!):
- We will start the game at the scheduled time with the players that show, if you are going to be late or can’t make it, send an ICQ or post here. We can stop the game and rehost to pick up late players. A player is responsible for finding their own Sub.
- If you attack a country, you must have roleplay reason for it, and it must be publicly stated. It doesn't have to be a good reason; "He laughed when my horse stumbled at my recent tournament" will do. But some kind of reasoning is needed. Also, you'll probably find it easier to garner support for an attack on a player country if your reason has some kind of ingame relevance.
- Gentlemanly conduct is required at all times. You are certainly permitted to ravage another player's kingdom, carry off his daughters and his treasure, kill his armies, and force him to sign a humiliating peace; but be polite about it. No swearing, no name-calling.
No diplomacy with the country of a player who isn't present - this is less important in CK, of course, with its limited diplo options. Also, no DOWing an AI'd player country; if it DOWs you, you can defend yourself and take a province or two, but no total rapings. However, a player who is often absent may find the rest of us not enforcing this rule any too strenuously.
- Avoid AFKs. By Murphy's Law, we will always crash in the middle of one, and then the rest of us are stuck waiting for our one AFK player. If it's something really unavoidable, ok, but at least give notice, and be prepared to find we've crashed and gone on without you. And AFKs of the style "watching the TV in the other room at the same time" is really a bit rude. We're here to play, not watch you watching TV.
Due to the scope of what we are trying to do, by playing an MP game spanning four Paradox Games, CK-EUIII-Vicky-HOI2

D. We must play the game everyweek, regardless of who shows up. If you know you can't make it, you must find a sub. If you can’t find a sub your country will be controlled by the AI.
- Upon starting a player versus player war, the aggressor must state their war goals. This is necessary so all players will understand what the attacker is looking for and what the defender must consider to end the hostilities. For example; As the Duke of Apulia I demand that Sicily surrender the county of Trapani and recognize Apulia as their new ruler. During the conflict both sides can negotiate these demands.
- During player versus player wars, no side can take lands from their opponents realm without first controlling the opponents demesne counties.

Join in and show us what you can!
And don't worry about your skill, noone is a big veteran here, we all are still learning!

Jarkko Suvinen · 24-02-2006, 07:34

You can't have both vanilla Hastings and modded Hastings, its either or

binTravkin · 24-02-2006, 08:06

Well, it won't be actually modded, I will just pre-open scenario first as HRE, create kingdom of bohemia (without advancing time) and release all kingdoms except Germany, then the same with Byzantium (release Bulgaria), the excess money (I'll cheat to get enough money for creation) will be sent to random unplayable country like Pope or something.

Lurken · 24-02-2006, 08:47

I could be interest in joining this game too.

Jarkko Suvinen · 24-02-2006, 08:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by binTravkin

Well, it won't be actually modded, I will just pre-open scenario first as HRE, create kingdom of bohemia (without advancing time) and release all kingdoms except Germany, then the same with Byzantium (release Bulgaria), the excess money (I'll cheat to get enough money for creation) will be sent to random unplayable country like Pope or something.

Well, it is not vanilla for sure

binTravkin · 24-02-2006, 08:53

As you wish.
The modifications only touch the biggest two countries anyway and not any other setup/character/event issues.

EDIT:
Who becomes who:

That duke of Marseilles, or whatever the title was (The only HRE duke in South France) becomes King of Burgundy

Duke of Milano (only feudal duke in HRE controlled Italy) becomes King of Italy
Duke of Bohemia becomes King of Bohemia

And
One of the two dukes in Bulgarian territory (one is Dukas, the other I don't remember) becomes Bulgaria (depends on player's choice, but by default the Dukas one, as to RP Byzantium creating a client-state or frontier-state in Balcans)

binTravkin · 24-02-2006, 08:57

Lurken, what would be your country preference?
And is there anything you'd want to add or discuss about the settings and rules?

I edited the first post and added my country preference: Navarra.

I've lately become fan of them because I found out basques are thought to be the European nation who has lived for the most time in one place, supposed to be living there since at least 15000BC..

Lurken · 24-02-2006, 09:03

I would like to be Germany. There will be no devouring of Germany in this game! For the rules, splitting up the empires are fine with me.

But for what day? It would be sundays now when DU1.5 in EU2MP ends soon.

binTravkin · 24-02-2006, 09:15

We should decide on days as more players gather.
My personal preference would be either friday or sunday, but let's also see what Tzare has to say.

binTravkin · 24-02-2006, 09:17

By the way, you as Germany sounds scary, as even after cropping it's the 2nd largest country. I hope we get some powerful neighbours for you..

CSK · 24-02-2006, 10:47

I don't know completly if I can do this times, but I will join as Italy. Lurken needs opposition.

binTravkin · 24-02-2006, 12:13

Riddermark expressed wish to join, however he's uncertain about the time/day he can play.
He will be Bulgaria if he plays.

CSK · 24-02-2006, 20:08

Question regarding the rules, will there be a usurping rule or can we claim Kingdoms? Not that claiming is easy on VH though.

Edit: Another point, could we change the colour of Italy to either Red or Dark Green? Otherwise binTravkin and I have the same colours.

binTravkin · 24-02-2006, 20:21

We could change the color, I guess that only requires distributing the relevant file.

I don't know about usurping.
From one side, it'd make acquiring kingdom titles much slower, resulting in less landgrab.
From other side - excommunication loses much of it's worth then as does being PC.

What you yourself think CSK?

CSK · 24-02-2006, 20:27

Actually you would only have to change

ITAL;Green;italian;blue_dark;white_regular;X

to

ITAL;DarkGreen;italian;blue_dark;white_regular;X

In country.csv.

Not much work and I like this colour more. Also it is good to see a difference between two realms.

I would say let us go with grab titles, not only usurping. The players have to keep stability. Means if I go and excommunicate and then grab a title like Germany the players can decide to punish me, or not. No need for the rule.

And what about an AAR? Either we all post, or I'm willing to do one and show the Italian sight.

binTravkin · 24-02-2006, 20:36

Okay, but I would still make this thing open for voting, maybe even make some sort of middle way, leaving duke titles available for grab while king titles only allowed to be usurped.
What do you think?

AAR:
I would like to occassionally post some RP about my own nation and I encourage anyone to do so to.
We shouldn't make a cooperative AAR, AFAIK they're usually poorer than individual, but for the sake of recognisability, one should name his AAR having reference of this game in the thread title, like 'Milano rules supreme: An Italy MP Great Game 2 AAR' or somesuch.

CSK · 24-02-2006, 20:46

I agree with both. Duke titles for grab, Kingdom have to be usurped sounds good to me.

I would also like to see some RP in it. But it's probably better one does it alone. I don't claim that for myself though. If another one really wants to make one I can live with it. Although I would do it.

binTravkin · 24-02-2006, 21:07

Well, I only said the AARs should be separate, because the collective AARs I've seen were not very nice.
Other than that, anyone's free to make an AAR or not, but it's bonus if you do..

King of Men · 24-02-2006, 21:51

Alas, I would like to join, but I fear two MP games is the maximum my schedule can handle.

I wish you luck!

BurningEGO · 24-02-2006, 22:59

Hello everyone

I would like to join this MP game and play as France. If you guys are doing this at Sunday or Saturday, i don't really care about the starting hour. But if you are doing this at any weekday, i may only join after 19:30 (GMT) most days. By the way, thanks for sending the invitation message binTravkin

Oh, and please, do not choose Friday to start this game, else i may not play, Thanks.

24-02-2006, 07:05	#1
binTravkin Annoying Latvian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Latvia of course Posts: 2,378	The Great Game 2 ALERT!!! Game has moved to other thread here, please continue on posting there, not original thread! The Great Game II Last save (see end of thread or ask Lurken for one, I can't upload atm) note - you need the scenario installed to preview this file! Next session: 9nd April 10:00 EST / 15:00 GMT ! Host: Lurken 2nd Host: Tzare GM: binTravkin 2nd GM: CSK Be there or be screwed! Improved map survey forthcoming.. Level: Hard/Agressive Game version: CK 1.05 Scenario: With Touch Of Astrea Players: binTravkin - The Most (Un)Orthodox Tzardom of Rus Tzare - The Resurrecting Kingdom of Serbia Lurken - The Holy Kingdom of Germany CSK - The Wealthy Kingdom of Italy and Naples Sterkarm - The Warrior Kingdom of Poland and Lithuania Ganso - ? Varyar - The Varyag Kingdom of Sweden, pulling the Papal strings Hey Steve - The Most Cultural Kingdom of Hungary Goose - ? BurningEGO - The Frankish Kingdom of France Riddermark - The Second Kingdom of Bulgaria Drachenfire - Most Enchanting Duchies of Gwynedd and Deheubarth Duke Of Kujawy - The Jimenez Kingdom of Castile and Leon You - Your Realm Of Choice Rules: 1.Anti-bash rules: - one is only allowed to bash heathens on the same continent* during (any) crusade. At the moment crusades ebb out you immediately send WP offer. If you are unable to send WP at that moment because of other pending peace, you do it when/if the pending offer is turned down. If the WP is turned down, player must announce it (and I will only believe it if it's realistic, not like Jatviags turning down Polish WP) and then it's fair game for all until the target realm is dead. And I don't care if you have 1% siege left. You didn't make it, so wait for next crusade. - one is allowed to bash heathens on other continents* if there's a crusade and target province is owned by heathen you want to bash (means you may not attack Zirids if Fatimids hold Jerusalem and crusade is for Jerusalem). - one is allowed to bash heathens on other continents* during an ongoing crusade, if any territory of his primary title is owned by a heathen (Byzantine reconquista rule and KoJ rule). - one is allowed to always bash heathens if attacked by them or if asked to help in war against them (alliance/vassal help call). * - continents here are Europe, Asia and Africa with their historical borders. Khwarizm belongs to Asia, Georgia belongs to both Asia and Europe (means being Georgia you've a lot of options), Byzantium belongs to Europe. 2.Anti-grab rules: - one is allowed to only claim titles that are exactly one tier lower than his, with folowing exceptions, in which a king is allowed to grab count titles: > the target realm is an independent count > the target duchy has not been created > the target duke title is alteady owned by the king or his vassal - one is only allowed to usurp or inherit titles (or their claims) that are same or higher tier than his. 3.AI BB rules: - if player misses a session or part of it and during that time his realm is run by AI, he is eligible to have his BB reduced on following conditions: > 1/2 of AI-made BB stripped if AI has made gains but at the same time lost land > all of AI-made BB stripped if AI has only lost land (this rule is specially for cases when game is rendered unplayable for player after being run by AI) 4.AAR rules: - if a player writes an AAR, he recieves up to 2.5BB (+1%loyalty/month) BB reduction for each session where he did write an AAR. The rating system is yet to be devised. - if a player writes an AAR, he should mention in first post that the AAR is of this game and have a link to game. Likewise, he should provide me with a link to AAR, so I can put up an AAR list. 5.Some rules from first GG (not to be considered obsolete!): - We will start the game at the scheduled time with the players that show, if you are going to be late or can’t make it, send an ICQ or post here. We can stop the game and rehost to pick up late players. A player is responsible for finding their own Sub. - If you attack a country, you must have roleplay reason for it, and it must be publicly stated. It doesn't have to be a good reason; "He laughed when my horse stumbled at my recent tournament" will do. But some kind of reasoning is needed. Also, you'll probably find it easier to garner support for an attack on a player country if your reason has some kind of ingame relevance. - Gentlemanly conduct is required at all times. You are certainly permitted to ravage another player's kingdom, carry off his daughters and his treasure, kill his armies, and force him to sign a humiliating peace; but be polite about it. No swearing, no name-calling. No diplomacy with the country of a player who isn't present - this is less important in CK, of course, with its limited diplo options. Also, no DOWing an AI'd player country; if it DOWs you, you can defend yourself and take a province or two, but no total rapings. However, a player who is often absent may find the rest of us not enforcing this rule any too strenuously. - Avoid AFKs. By Murphy's Law, we will always crash in the middle of one, and then the rest of us are stuck waiting for our one AFK player. If it's something really unavoidable, ok, but at least give notice, and be prepared to find we've crashed and gone on without you. And AFKs of the style "watching the TV in the other room at the same time" is really a bit rude. We're here to play, not watch you watching TV. Due to the scope of what we are trying to do, by playing an MP game spanning four Paradox Games, CK-EUIII-Vicky-HOI2D. We must play the game everyweek, regardless of who shows up. If you know you can't make it, you must find a sub. If you can’t find a sub your country will be controlled by the AI. - Upon starting a player versus player war, the aggressor must state their war goals. This is necessary so all players will understand what the attacker is looking for and what the defender must consider to end the hostilities. For example; As the Duke of Apulia I demand that Sicily surrender the county of Trapani and recognize Apulia as their new ruler. During the conflict both sides can negotiate these demands. - During player versus player wars, no side can take lands from their opponents realm without first controlling the opponents demesne counties. Join in and show us what you can! And don't worry about your skill, noone is a big veteran here, we all are still learning! Last edited by binTravkin; 12-04-2006 at 14:28.

24-02-2006, 07:34	#2
Jarkko Suvinen Zealot Crybaby Troll Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Finland Posts: 3,607	You can't have both vanilla Hastings and modded Hastings, its either or __________________ There are three kinds of people: Those who can count and those who can not. We Three Kings - An EU:Rome MP AAR (now completed all the way to its anti-climax)

24-02-2006, 08:06	#3
binTravkin Annoying Latvian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Latvia of course Posts: 2,378	Well, it won't be actually modded, I will just pre-open scenario first as HRE, create kingdom of bohemia (without advancing time) and release all kingdoms except Germany, then the same with Byzantium (release Bulgaria), the excess money (I'll cheat to get enough money for creation) will be sent to random unplayable country like Pope or something. __________________ And the Lord spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then, shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shalt be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thou foe, who being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it.

24-02-2006, 08:47	#4
Lurken Plotting Havgard:Rävspel&Mjöd Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: At the Temple of Mombot, praying for guidence Posts: 3,631	I could be interest in joining this game too. __________________ Delende est FRA Proud owner of 3 mouldy Phoenix cookies ●●● Pathetic and Brave King of Poland in Battlefront IV - Lords of War Shifty Leader of <random/> nation in Diplomacy Universalis 1.5 Rythin, the mad warmongerer and Lurken, the semi-peaceful builder in "Lurken and Rythin in the land of sand - The wacky Mzab adventures." - it's aaalive....Well...not really. It is quite dead. Undead? Minister of Information and Groupies for OT-President rafiki ICQ: 267-216-225 The plight and return of B'mo'otm - an AAR, like I've never done before

24-02-2006, 08:53	#6
binTravkin Annoying Latvian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Latvia of course Posts: 2,378	As you wish. The modifications only touch the biggest two countries anyway and not any other setup/character/event issues. EDIT: Who becomes who: That duke of Marseilles, or whatever the title was (The only HRE duke in South France) becomes King of Burgundy Duke of Milano (only feudal duke in HRE controlled Italy) becomes King of Italy Duke of Bohemia becomes King of Bohemia And One of the two dukes in Bulgarian territory (one is Dukas, the other I don't remember) becomes Bulgaria (depends on player's choice, but by default the Dukas one, as to RP Byzantium creating a client-state or frontier-state in Balcans) __________________ And the Lord spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then, shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shalt be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thou foe, who being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it. Last edited by binTravkin; 24-02-2006 at 09:00.

24-02-2006, 08:57	#7
binTravkin Annoying Latvian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Latvia of course Posts: 2,378	Lurken, what would be your country preference? And is there anything you'd want to add or discuss about the settings and rules? I edited the first post and added my country preference: Navarra. I've lately become fan of them because I found out basques are thought to be the European nation who has lived for the most time in one place, supposed to be living there since at least 15000BC.. __________________ And the Lord spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then, shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shalt be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thou foe, who being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it.

24-02-2006, 09:03	#8
Lurken Plotting Havgard:Rävspel&Mjöd Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: At the Temple of Mombot, praying for guidence Posts: 3,631	I would like to be Germany. There will be no devouring of Germany in this game! For the rules, splitting up the empires are fine with me. But for what day? It would be sundays now when DU1.5 in EU2MP ends soon. __________________ Delende est FRA Proud owner of 3 mouldy Phoenix cookies ●●● Pathetic and Brave King of Poland in Battlefront IV - Lords of War Shifty Leader of <random/> nation in Diplomacy Universalis 1.5 Rythin, the mad warmongerer and Lurken, the semi-peaceful builder in "Lurken and Rythin in the land of sand - The wacky Mzab adventures." - it's aaalive....Well...not really. It is quite dead. Undead? Minister of Information and Groupies for OT-President rafiki ICQ: 267-216-225 The plight and return of B'mo'otm - an AAR, like I've never done before

24-02-2006, 09:15	#9
binTravkin Annoying Latvian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Latvia of course Posts: 2,378	We should decide on days as more players gather. My personal preference would be either friday or sunday, but let's also see what Tzare has to say. __________________ And the Lord spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then, shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shalt be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thou foe, who being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it.

24-02-2006, 09:17	#10
binTravkin Annoying Latvian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Latvia of course Posts: 2,378	By the way, you as Germany sounds scary, as even after cropping it's the 2nd largest country. I hope we get some powerful neighbours for you.. __________________ And the Lord spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then, shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shalt be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thou foe, who being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it.

24-02-2006, 10:47	#11
CSK Field Marshal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Graz or Vienna, European Union. Posts: 3,867	I don't know completly if I can do this times, but I will join as Italy. Lurken needs opposition.

24-02-2006, 12:13	#12
binTravkin Annoying Latvian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Latvia of course Posts: 2,378	Riddermark expressed wish to join, however he's uncertain about the time/day he can play. He will be Bulgaria if he plays. __________________ And the Lord spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then, shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shalt be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thou foe, who being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it.

24-02-2006, 20:08	#13
CSK Field Marshal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Graz or Vienna, European Union. Posts: 3,867	Question regarding the rules, will there be a usurping rule or can we claim Kingdoms? Not that claiming is easy on VH though. Edit: Another point, could we change the colour of Italy to either Red or Dark Green? Otherwise binTravkin and I have the same colours.

24-02-2006, 20:21	#14
binTravkin Annoying Latvian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Latvia of course Posts: 2,378	We could change the color, I guess that only requires distributing the relevant file. I don't know about usurping. From one side, it'd make acquiring kingdom titles much slower, resulting in less landgrab. From other side - excommunication loses much of it's worth then as does being PC. What you yourself think CSK? __________________ And the Lord spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then, shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shalt be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thou foe, who being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it.

24-02-2006, 20:27	#15
CSK Field Marshal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Graz or Vienna, European Union. Posts: 3,867	Actually you would only have to change ITAL;Green;italian;blue_dark;white_regular;X to ITAL;DarkGreen;italian;blue_dark;white_regular;X In country.csv. Not much work and I like this colour more. Also it is good to see a difference between two realms. I would say let us go with grab titles, not only usurping. The players have to keep stability. Means if I go and excommunicate and then grab a title like Germany the players can decide to punish me, or not. No need for the rule. And what about an AAR? Either we all post, or I'm willing to do one and show the Italian sight.

24-02-2006, 20:36	#16
binTravkin Annoying Latvian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Latvia of course Posts: 2,378	Okay, but I would still make this thing open for voting, maybe even make some sort of middle way, leaving duke titles available for grab while king titles only allowed to be usurped. What do you think? AAR: I would like to occassionally post some RP about my own nation and I encourage anyone to do so to. We shouldn't make a cooperative AAR, AFAIK they're usually poorer than individual, but for the sake of recognisability, one should name his AAR having reference of this game in the thread title, like 'Milano rules supreme: An Italy MP Great Game 2 AAR' or somesuch. __________________ And the Lord spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then, shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shalt be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thou foe, who being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it.

24-02-2006, 20:46	#17
CSK Field Marshal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Graz or Vienna, European Union. Posts: 3,867	I agree with both. Duke titles for grab, Kingdom have to be usurped sounds good to me. I would also like to see some RP in it. But it's probably better one does it alone. I don't claim that for myself though. If another one really wants to make one I can live with it. Although I would do it.

24-02-2006, 21:07	#18
binTravkin Annoying Latvian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Latvia of course Posts: 2,378	Well, I only said the AARs should be separate, because the collective AARs I've seen were not very nice. Other than that, anyone's free to make an AAR or not, but it's bonus if you do.. __________________ And the Lord spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then, shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shalt be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thou foe, who being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it.

24-02-2006, 21:51	#19
King of Men THIS year in Bergen! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: I was banned from religion threads before it was cool. And after it was cool. Posts: 5,307	Alas, I would like to join, but I fear two MP games is the maximum my schedule can handle. I wish you luck! __________________ MP Megacampaigns : The Great Game: CK, EU2, EU2 stats, Vicky, Doomsday. There Will Be War: CK, EU3, Vicky, Arma. Children of the Fatherland: Under construction! Join the discussion! CK converter project - done. Download version 1.0! (For questions and problems, PM me.)

24-02-2006, 22:59	#20
BurningEGO Machiavellian Prince Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Lisbon, Portugal Posts: 5,319	Hello everyone I would like to join this MP game and play as France. If you guys are doing this at Sunday or Saturday, i don't really care about the starting hour. But if you are doing this at any weekday, i may only join after 19:30 (GMT) most days. By the way, thanks for sending the invitation message binTravkin Oh, and please, do not choose Friday to start this game, else i may not play, Thanks.