Amsterdam

ladyfabia · 21-02-2006, 07:09

In my game as Germany, Allied always try to land on Amsterdam not in other province. I can put no guard in France and Denmark and the Allied only bomb France and Denmark province, not try to land.

Why Amsterdam? I think AI must try to land in any province not guarded not only Amsterdam.

Door Number 3 · 21-02-2006, 22:17

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Originally Posted by ladyfabia

In my game as Germany, Allied always try to land on Amsterdam not in other province. I can put no guard in France and Denmark and the Allied only bomb France and Denmark province, not try to land.

Why Amsterdam? I think AI must try to land in any province not guarded not only Amsterdam.

Well Amsterdam is relatively close to Germany maybe they wanted to take the most direct route. The AI is a funny thing it will do some strange things but I've seen landings in France and Norway by the allies.

lucius1976 · 22-02-2006, 09:03

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Originally Posted by ladyfabia

In my game as Germany, Allied always try to land on Amsterdam not in other province. I can put no guard in France and Denmark and the Allied only bomb France and Denmark province, not try to land.

Why Amsterdam? I think AI must try to land in any province not guarded not only Amsterdam.

Probably to smoke some marihuana :-) before they attack the Reich.

Cesarow · 22-02-2006, 23:13

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Originally Posted by lucius1976

Probably to smoke some marihuana :-) before they attack the Reich.

Tss.. Amsterdam is a totally normal city

BlueEmperor · 22-02-2006, 23:14

It's just the way the AI works.

sting01 · 23-02-2006, 00:26

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Originally Posted by Cesarow

Tss.. Amsterdam is a totally normal city

coffe shop, Red light corner, ladies in glassbox ... normal life it is not, yo ucan find that is any redneck city.

Panzerschiffe · 23-02-2006, 02:39

Indeed, the AI sometimes has messed up priorities. (Or weird tactics)

As NatSpain, they landed on the island east of mallorca and added 23 divisions. It surprised me at first, but then i just laughed and blocked em with ships.

Or AI USA will always land on that little island shared by Japan and USSR and just park itself there for a while.

Usually, it tries to find beaches that arent defended, or areas that arent defended. Since most of the time, a human player will have decent defence, the AI wont be able to land anywhere or will have a rather tough time. Its rare to see a landing of more than 3 units. I havent seen one myself either. So if you have more than 3 units, the AI might not try something.

Maybe amsterdam happens to have very few units and that pleases the AI.

zeeter · 23-02-2006, 10:15

The AI is programmed to put more weight in different provinces. The British, when fighting against the Americans, will invade only in specific territories. Nova Scotia, a province in New England (forget which), Miami, Atlanta, or New Orleans.

It probably works the same for invading Europe.

ladyfabia · 23-02-2006, 12:59

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Originally Posted by zeeter

The AI is programmed to put more weight in different provinces.

Based on? Victory point? IC? Resource?

Lord Solar · 23-02-2006, 13:10

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Originally Posted by ladyfabia

Why Amsterdam? I think AI must try to land in any province not guarded not only Amsterdam.

I've seen this before (ever since HoI 1) and honestly can't explain. The Brits once surprised me when they landed 16 divisions in Aarhus but my French and Dutch coast is usually secure after I place two divs there.

Btw, perhaps this could be used to drain them of manpower pretty quickly: Just leave a couple of provinces unoccupied to draw them onto the continent - and then encircle & destroy.

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Originally Posted by zeeter

The British, when fighting against the Americans...

Those bloody seperatist cousins may deserve this but talk about weird AI strategy...now of course I'm *not being serious*, right?

Spocky · 23-02-2006, 14:23

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Originally Posted by ladyfabia

Based on? Victory point? IC? Resource?

Based on some cryptic invasion settings in the AI files, the number of troops an this beach and a bg random factor

Spocky

ladyfabia · 23-02-2006, 14:39

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Originally Posted by Lord Solar

Btw, perhaps this could be used to drain them of manpower pretty quickly: Just leave a couple of provinces unoccupied to draw them onto the continent - and then encircle & destroy.

Yea, I have been using that annoying and not fun exploit. Just encircle Amsterdam and wait until several units lend to Netherland land.

Hardstuff · 23-02-2006, 17:03

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Originally Posted by Cesarow

Tss.. Amsterdam is a totally normal city

lol, aye, 'tis. Most foreigners believe otherwise, they don't realise 80% of local Dutch counsils forbid "Coffee Shops".

Haha, lol, "Red Light CORNER"?

It's a district, not the corner of a street. And that's only contained in one place, which amazingly changes dramatically during the day, and night.

Though I believe the province they choose to attack is entirely random. No matter how stupid...

Formossa · 23-02-2006, 18:22

@Hardstuff: I actually work on a printshop at the border of the Red Light District, and believe me, it's not that different at day. The hookers are still in the windows, the coffee and sexshops are open, the sole difference is that it's less crowded, that you can't see the red light well, and that you don't have those damn english hooligans.

It is true that the majority of Amsterdam is normal...although you can find coffeeshops around Amsterdam.

Hardstuff · 23-02-2006, 19:21

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Originally Posted by Formossa

@Hardstuff: I actually work on a printshop at the border of the Red Light District, and believe me, it's not that different at day. The hookers are still in the windows, the coffee and sexshops are open, the sole difference is that it's less crowded, that you can't see the red light well, and that you don't have those damn english hooligans.

It is true that the majority of Amsterdam is normal...although you can find coffeeshops around Amsterdam.

Aye, didn't say you couldn't find any, but the fact that out of the entire country, 80% of local counsils do not permit them to "Set up shop".

Heh, yea, it's unreal the amount in Ireland and England that brag on about "OMG!!!! AmstWHOREdam!!! LOLOLOL!!! DRUUGS!!" - It does my head in... To be from a place with such a high density of... Those people (I suppose, ignorant people would suffice), annoys me. Oh well, still love my tiny little green island.

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23-02-2006, 02:39	#7
Panzerschiffe King Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Québec City Posts: 1,211	Indeed, the AI sometimes has messed up priorities. (Or weird tactics) As NatSpain, they landed on the island east of mallorca and added 23 divisions. It surprised me at first, but then i just laughed and blocked em with ships. Or AI USA will always land on that little island shared by Japan and USSR and just park itself there for a while. Usually, it tries to find beaches that arent defended, or areas that arent defended. Since most of the time, a human player will have decent defence, the AI wont be able to land anywhere or will have a rather tough time. Its rare to see a landing of more than 3 units. I havent seen one myself either. So if you have more than 3 units, the AI might not try something. Maybe amsterdam happens to have very few units and that pleases the AI.

23-02-2006, 10:15	#8
zeeter Major Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 518	The AI is programmed to put more weight in different provinces. The British, when fighting against the Americans, will invade only in specific territories. Nova Scotia, a province in New England (forget which), Miami, Atlanta, or New Orleans. It probably works the same for invading Europe.

23-02-2006, 18:22	#14
Formossa Sergeant Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 61	@Hardstuff: I actually work on a printshop at the border of the Red Light District, and believe me, it's not that different at day. The hookers are still in the windows, the coffee and sexshops are open, the sole difference is that it's less crowded, that you can't see the red light well, and that you don't have those damn english hooligans. It is true that the majority of Amsterdam is normal...although you can find coffeeshops around Amsterdam.