New historical events for Italy

[FilTur]

- 1936: "The death of Guglielmo Marconi, a great loss for all Italy", Marconi no more available for reasearches;

- 1936: "Berlin Olympic Games, a great result for our Nation!" (Italy placed 3rd on final ranking, and football team won the golden medal), dissent drop by 1%;

- 1936 (or whenever Addis Abeba is taken): "Empire newly arise on Rome fatal hills", Ethiopia annexed, Vittorio Emanuele III becomes King Emperor, dissent -10% (Italian people, even antifascists, rejoice because of the final revenge on Adua and the victory of all the Nation), relations with UK -50;

- 1936 (or whenever after Ethiopian annexation): "Nations Society voted for sanctions! - But Italy will stand up and mobilise every one, men and women, elders and children, against this iniquity", energy stock +5000 metal stock +5000 rare materials stock +2500 oil stock +1000, relations with UK -100 with France -100 with Germany +50 with USA +25, any commerce agreements with UK and France broken and (if this is possible to do in the game) no commerce agreement will be available with these Nations for 2 years, dissent -5% (Italian people reacted to sanctions by supporting Fascist Regime and then the Country);

- 1938: "Rimet Cup (as Football World Cup was named before 1974), Italy won the Cup for the second time, beating in the quarter-finals the home team and historic rival France, the Duce and all the Nation is rejoicing", dissent -1%;

- 1938: "Italy gets closer to Germany", if "YES" Fermi is no more available for researches interventionism +1 hawk-lobby +1 dissent +1% relations with Germany +50, if "NO" Fermi remains available interventionism -1 hawk-lobby -1;

- 1938: "Anschluss: a treat to our northern border, or the gift to a friend?" (Italy stopped Hitler in 1934 menacing war to protect Austria), "support Germany" relations with Germany +200 Austria is annexed, "support Austria" relations with Germany -100 Italy guarantee Austrian indipendence:
- Austria fall anyway, Germany annexes it;
- Austria stands up, Germany can desist for the moment, or declare war then Austria gives Italy military access;

- 1938: "Germany claims Suedetenland: a new war for Europe?":
- (historic) "Mussolini proposes Munich Conference", UK France Germany and Italy meets in Munich to force Czechoslovakia to give Suedetenland to Germany, dissent -3%, interventionism -1;
- "Support German claims", relations with Germany +100 with Czechoslovakia -100 with UK -50 with France -50 dissent +1%, Czechoslovakia may enter alliance with UK and France, to be decided by D and CK if Suedetenland goes to D or war will be or D renounces (with dissent growing up etc.);
- "Support Czechoslovakian freedom, we liberated them in 1918", interventionism +1, relations with Germany -100 with Czechoslovakia +100 with UK +50 with France +50, Czechoslovakia may enter alliance with UK and France, to be decided by D and CK if Suedetenland goes to D or war will be or D renounces (with dissent growing up etc.);
Bonuses and maluses for each other Nation to be considered.

- 1940: (if no war in Europe) "Esposizione Universale Roma, International Expo in Rome", Rome's roads and railroads +10% dissent -1%;

- 1940: (if no war in Europe) "Olympic Games in Tokio" (bonuses for Japan only).

[nomonhan]

I love it. Do you know how to code? But of course you also have to make the AI do the historical thing about 98% of the time, so you only get to alter history by BEING Italy.

[MateDow]

Originally Posted by FilTur

- 1936: "Berlin Olympic Games, a great result for our Nation!" (Italy placed 3rd on final ranking, and football team won the golden medal), dissent drop by 1%;

I am working on a series of events for both the summer and winter games of 1936. Although the winter games won't effect Italy much, there will be some dissent reduction through the games. I doubt it will be an entire percentage point though.

- 1936 (or whenever Addis Abeba is taken): "Empire newly arise on Rome fatal hills", Ethiopia annexed, Vittorio Emanuele III becomes King Emperor, dissent -10% (Italian people, even antifascists, rejoice because of the final revenge on Adua and the victory of all the Nation), relations with UK -50;

This is a really large dissent reduction. I would recommend something along the lines of 2 or 3 points.

- 1936 (or whenever after Ethiopian annexation): "Nations Society voted for sanctions! - But Italy will stand up and mobilise every one, men and women, elders and children, against this iniquity", energy stock +5000 metal stock +5000 rare materials stock +2500 oil stock +1000, relations with UK -100 with France -100 with Germany +50 with USA +25, any commerce agreements with UK and France broken and (if this is possible to do in the game) no commerce agreement will be available with these Nations for 2 years, dissent -5% (Italian people reacted to sanctions by supporting Fascist Regime and then the Country);

These are really large gains in resources. I would also say that there wouldn't be that large of a dissent reduction.

- 1938: "Rimet Cup (as Football World Cup was named before 1974), Italy won the Cup for the second time, beating in the quarter-finals the home team and historic rival France, the Duce and all the Nation is rejoicing", dissent -1%;

There will be a World Cup event. I learn something new every day. I wasn't aware of it being called the Rimet Cup. Of course, I don't really follow football (or I as know it, soccer).

- 1938: "Italy gets closer to Germany", if "YES" Fermi is no more available for researches interventionism +1 hawk-lobby +1 dissent +1% relations with Germany +50, if "NO" Fermi remains available interventionism -1 hawk-lobby -1;

I would be wary of large relation swings. This has dire effects on when Italy will join the alliance with Germany.

- 1938: "Anschluss: a treat to our northern border, or the gift to a friend?" (Italy stopped Hitler in 1934 menacing war to protect Austria), "support Germany" relations with Germany +200 Austria is annexed, "support Austria" relations with Germany -100 Italy guarantee Austrian indipendence:
- Austria fall anyway, Germany annexes it;
- Austria stands up, Germany can desist for the moment, or declare war then Austria gives Italy military access;

- 1938: "Germany claims Suedetenland: a new war for Europe?":
- (historic) "Mussolini proposes Munich Conference", UK France Germany and Italy meets in Munich to force Czechoslovakia to give Suedetenland to Germany, dissent -3%, interventionism -1;
- "Support German claims", relations with Germany +100 with Czechoslovakia -100 with UK -50 with France -50 dissent +1%, Czechoslovakia may enter alliance with UK and France, to be decided by D and CK if Suedetenland goes to D or war will be or D renounces (with dissent growing up etc.);
- "Support Czechoslovakian freedom, we liberated them in 1918", interventionism +1, relations with Germany -100 with Czechoslovakia +100 with UK +50 with France +50, Czechoslovakia may enter alliance with UK and France, to be decided by D and CK if Suedetenland goes to D or war will be or D renounces (with dissent growing up etc.);
Bonuses and maluses for each other Nation to be considered.

There are already events for the Munich Conference, Anschluss, and the final disposition of Czechoslovakia that have been integrated. Some of these events deal with Italian stances.

- 1940: (if no war in Europe) "Esposizione Universale Roma, International Expo in Rome", Rome's roads and railroads +10% dissent -1%;

Can you give more details about this? I am not aware of what is refering to so I can't judge the effects.

- 1940: (if no war in Europe) "Olympic Games in Tokio" (bonuses for Japan only).

There are plans for a series of hypothetical Tokyo games. If Japan continues on her agressive stance and a general world war hasn't started, then the alternative site was Helsinki Finland. They won't be as detailed as the 1936 events, but they should be fairly interesting. But those hypothetical events are fairly far down my to do list.

I like your ideas. They are workable, but I think we will ahve to reduce many of the effects to make sure that they aren't unbalancing. Go ahead and start coding them up so we can see them. MDow

[baylox]

As MDow pointed out Anschluss and Munich are severely reworked and do not really resemble the vanilla events much any longer. Anschluss will get another make-over, however, once the Danubian Pact is completed (as an event chain) to deal with possible Italian intervention and Austria's ability to stand up. At this point Austria won't be able to do much and the entire event chain is rather linear (unlike Munich).

Munich may get a bit of make-over as well once Danubian Pact is completed to reflect a possible option for Italy not to be lapdogs of Germany, but at this point they have little choice. The Munich chain is more dependent on France and Britain than anything else.
("Danubian Pact" is a bit of a misnomer here - I'm planning a whole series of events about pre-war politics in Europe of which Danubian Pact is but a part)

[Mo3biu5]

just love the way you could play Italy with these choices...
The role of a "moderate fascist against germany NS" is what most italian ppl dreamed in pre-war...

great ideas! Hope to see them in C.O.R.E.

[Mogr]

Originally Posted by MateDow

There are plans for a series of hypothetical Tokyo games. If Japan continues on her agressive stance and a general world war hasn't started, then the alternative site was Helsinki Finland.

Why not add event where Olympics moved to Finlad if Japan were at war or had too high belli or so on.

[Ranger mike]

Originally Posted by Mogr

Why not add event where Olympics moved to Finlad if Japan were at war or had too high belli or so on.

very good idea the more events to cover all the "what if's"the better

[MateDow]

Originally Posted by Mogr

Why not add event where Olympics moved to Finlad if Japan were at war or had too high belli or so on.

Hmm, isn't that what I implied? MDow

[CyberMajestic]

Originally Posted by MateDow

Hmm, isn't that what I implied? MDow

That's what I thought.