new player questions [long]

[KingB]

I'm sorry if (most of) this has been answered. I looked throufg the faq i still have some questions.

I had annexed kazan and golden horde before realizing the diplomatic implications. Will this ruin the rest of my game?

i play Russia and as i started the heroic liberation of sibir the Krim declare war on me. oki.

so i ask my allys (denmark, moldavia and bohemia) to help me and all but moldavia refuse. This was the first time i call upon my allies. Why would they refuse to help me when i get attacked?

now i get a quick peace with sibir and maul the krim. i take all their provinces but only demand 3 provinces in peace because i don't want this bad boy thing to grow.

Odd thing is that i stayed at war with Turkey (ally of krim). And after the peace 50.000 cavalry ravage my war weary land. oddly, they agree to peace for 4 ducats. And appearantly the 50.000 vanished in thin air?

Later i paid like one gazillion to georgia to make them like me but they won't join my glorious empire =(. I also cut down astrakkran and sibir down to their capitol province.

So i have some questions:
1. how do i make my allys honor the alliance?
2. how come i remain at war with some alliance members after making peace with the country that started the war?
3. As Russia, can you avoid having "Bad Boy" points? Is it useful to leave Astrakkran and Sibir with 1 province? England and France and basically everybody has -200 to me even though i been "nice" for over a decade.
4. I have ok relations with Denmark. With that keep the swedes from attacking me since they are their vasals and now allies? (they haven't so far but i think they are just waiting for me and poland-lit to get it on). Or should i invest bribes in Sweden and let Denmark be?
5. Since my army tech is far from level 11, I can't explore the lands east of Sibir. Will i get conquisadors and more settlers later? Its silly if i must wait 100 years to explore a province next door i think (I only get one settler each year and most of the game i didn't even get that)
6. The georgians are +200, allied and royally married to me. But everytime i offer vasal they tell me to stuff it and go to +170. Is there anything i can do to make them accept?

It now year 1550

thanks

[hjarg]

1. how do i make my allys honor the alliance?

Keep good relations with them (send an occasional gift)

2. how come i remain at war with some alliance members after making peace with the country that started the war?

Because only if the one who stated the war (or the one upon whom the war is declared) makes peace, the rest of alliance is in peace as well.

3. As Russia, can you avoid having "Bad Boy" points? Is it useful to leave Astrakkran and Sibir with 1 province? England and France and basically everybody has -200 to me even though i been "nice" for over a decade.

Nope, annex your way. Then you'll be strong enough to beat everyone who hates you.

4. I have ok relations with Denmark. With that keep the swedes from attacking me since they are their vasals and now allies? (they haven't so far but i think they are just waiting for me and poland-lit to get it on). Or should i invest bribes in Sweden and let Denmark be?

Just kick some Swedish ass when you get the chance

5. Since my army tech is far from level 11, I can't explore the lands east of Sibir. Will i get conquisadors and more settlers later? Its silly if i must wait 100 years to explore a province next door i think (I only get one settler each year and most of the game i didn't even get that)

If you're in 1550, you should get first conquistadores soon.

6. The georgians are +200, allied and royally married to me. But everytime i offer vasal they tell me to stuff it and go to +170. Is there anything i can do to make them accept?

Luck mostly, but also monarch's diplovalue, stability of both, size of your treasure & some other stuff. Just keep trying, they will accept sooner or later

[KingB]

>2. how come i remain at war with some alliance members after making >peace with the country that started the war?
>
>Because only if the one who stated the war (or the one upon whom the >war is declared) makes peace, the rest of alliance is in peace as >well.

well. But Krim started the war, yet Turkey fought on?? Anyways, their loss of 50k troops for four ducats seems pretty dumb for the AI =)

>3. As Russia, can you avoid having "Bad Boy" points? Is it useful to >leave Astrakkran and Sibir with 1 province? England and France and >basically everybody has -200 to me even though i been "nice" for >over a decade.
>
>Nope, annex your way. Then you'll be strong enough to beat everyone >who hates you.
>
>4. I have ok relations with Denmark. With that keep the swedes from >attacking me since they are their vasals and now allies? (they >haven't so far but i think they are just waiting for me and poland->lit to get it on). Or should i invest bribes in Sweden and let >Denmark be?
>
>Just kick some Swedish ass when you get the chance

hehe. I see. But with Poland-Lithuanias and Swedens allies a double war will mean i fight the whole world more or less... Turkey is still hating me too.. guess i just have to buy more guys then =(

>5. Since my army tech is far from level 11, I can't explore the >lands east of Sibir. Will i get conquisadors and more settlers >later? Its silly if i must wait 100 years to explore a province next >door i think (I only get one settler each year and most of the game >i didn't even get that)
>
>If you're in 1550, you should get first conquistadores soon.
>
>6. The georgians are +200, allied and royally married to me. But >everytime i offer vasal they tell me to stuff it and go to +170. Is >there anything i can do to make them accept?
>
>Luck mostly, but also monarch's diplovalue, stability of both, size >of your treasure & some other stuff. Just keep trying, they will >accept sooner or later

oki. cool. thanks for replying =)

[KingB]

argh that quoted post looks like drek. sorry.

[beowulf]

Originally posted by hjarg
6. The georgians are +200, allied and royally married to me. But everytime i offer vasal they tell me to stuff it and go to +170. Is there anything i can do to make them accept?

They seem to be happier to accept vassalisation and annexation if you've just saved their butts in a war.
I don't know if this is actually in the AI-code, but those are the only times I've ever succeeded.

[kurtbrian]

Regarding your problems with vasalizing a country, It helps an awful lot to have a big treasury.

Also march A big Army next to their Borders Should Help(not Sure of this)

[kurtbrian]

Beowulf, what on earth is mullsyrrtjabonke ???

[SideshowBob]

KingB Do not confuse relations with Badboy, if you are a really really bad boy countries with +190 relations will still attack you. So don't waste your money thinking you can keep them sweet. You are far better to save your money for buying them off in BB war. BTW Sweden doesn't want to be a vassal of Denmark and will break it as soon as they can.

The trick to fighting as Russia is strangly enough to do nothing for a while. Build the largest forts you can somewhere near the border where you expect to be attacked, preferably on low troop support provinces. Watch those big armys melt away to nothing while trying to seige you in the middle of a Russian winter. Then come the spring your armys which have been sat at home drinking Vodka during the cold months can charge out and clean up.

You get a Conquestador called Stroganoff (i think) anytime soon. Make sure you don't miss him, i did in my 1st ever game which was with Russia. Change the message settings so that new leaders appear as a pop up window, or right click on the mini map and choose conquestadors and it will put a red dot where they are located.

Getting Vassals, this has always worked for me. Get you treasury as high as possible, always offer vassalisation after you have been saving up for years for manufactories. I normally try to have at least 2000 in the bank when i make the offer. Also station some armys on their border that seems to help as well. Oh and make sure you are at +3 stability.

[beowulf]

Originally posted by kurtbrian
Beowulf, what on earth is mullsyrrtjabonke ???

Mole-hill.

[Owl]

Originally posted by kurtbrian
Beowulf, what on earth is mullsyrrtjabonke ???

And KingB, what's "drek" ?

[beowulf]

Kurtbrian, are you from Rønne, Bornholm?
If yes, then I have a question for you:
I have a theory that the dialect of Bornholm should be closer to the dialects of Skåne than to danish. Is that correct? I don't think I've ever heard a Bornholmer speak.

And Owl, I think he means 'crap' by 'drek'.

[kurtbrian]

Kurtbrian, are you from Rønne, Bornholm?

The One and Only

I'm not sure of this since I have not either heard your dialect either.
They are probably very close related, given the point that skåne and Bornholm are so close to eachother and they both have been danish and swedish.

Only we managed to throw over sewdish suppressoers out

The Dialect of Bornholm resembles the swedish language a bit but are of course more related to danish

[kurtbrian]

Crap

my grammar isn't that good

[beowulf]

Originally posted by kurtbrian


The One and Only

I'm not sure of this since I have not either heard your dialect either.
They are probably very close related, given the point that skåne and Bornholm are so close to eachother and they both have been danish and swedish.

Only we managed to throw over sewdish suppressoers out

The Dialect of Bornholm resembles the swedish language a bit but are of course more related to danish

Before the swedish conquest, Skåne and probably Bornholm too spoke an east-danish dialect that was closer to swedish. I'll have to go to Bornholm and listen for myself. I haven't been there since I was a little boy, and it is a beautiful island.

[kurtbrian]

It is indeed beautiful and if you come during summertime, you will immediatly feel at home. Since there are Swedes all over the place along with German and Norwegians. ´

[Sorcerer]

Originally posted by KingB

well. But Krim started the war, yet Turkey fought on?? Anyways, their loss of 50k troops for four ducats seems pretty dumb for the AI =)

They accepted 4 ducats probably because that was what was in your treasury at the time they offered peace. And AI tends to dissolve troops on enemy territory with little chance to get it back to their own territory (thus they don't pay for the maintenance of a useless army). It could also be that General Winter got them

And if you made a separate peace with Krim (you can see this at the top of the peace resolution screen), then Turkey will fight on.

[KingB]

drek=crap=s***

not really suitable for polite conversation i'm afraid

anyway my game is very entertaining and thanks for all your comments. Georgia finally saw the light although it would have been easier by far just to roll over them hehe. They still refuse to be annexed but thats ok. I Guess it satifies my ego to have a vasal. Actually i made my way to the China empire since i have been able to focus on colonies and trade posts as the other european nations appearantly fear the strength of the Bear