Icelandia Universalis (1492-1532) Screenshot AAR

strategy · 08-08-2001, 13:25

This will simply be a short screenshot AAR, without much detail.

Setup is as follows:
IGC 2.3 standard setup, with the following modifications:
- Instead of Norway, Iceland is introduced as a major power.
- Iceland controls Iceland and has a cassus belli against the Norwegian provinces.
- Iceland is a vassal of Denmark and is an ally of Denmark.
- Iceland uses the monarch files of Vinland.
- Iceland starts with an army of 1000 cavalry and 4000 infantry.
- Iceland starts with a fleet of 3 transports.
- The population of the city in Iceland is increased to 1000.
- Danish COT in Skaane.

Settings: Normal/Very Hard, and playing by the Ironman rules.

I'd note that it took some 4-5 games before I hit on the right formula for playing Iceland; one of those ended quite badly (I let myself be surprised by the BB wars in 1520), in the others the momentum of my offensives simply petered out before 1515 due to a lack of money - not a problem, except that I wanted to prove world conquest possible with Iceland. The current attempt, however, can easily be taken on to world conquest, IMO.

strategy · 08-08-2001, 13:29

Landfall. After building up for 4 years and taking a loan of 1000d, we declare war on the Hanseatic League, Pommerania, and Holstein, Portugal and England. Our troops immediately lands in Bremen, while our Danish Allies as usually do nothing.

strategy · 08-08-2001, 13:32

After annexing the Hanseatic League in 1497 and going bankrupt in 1498 (with a monthly income under 1d, no way can I repay 1000d), we take on Hannover, Saxony and Bohemia; annexing Hannover and taking a province from Saxony. 12 years has seen our empire grow from 1 province to 6. Holstein has been diploannexed by Denmark.

Galadriel · 08-08-2001, 13:36

Interesting idee to play Iceland. Good luck!

strategy · 08-08-2001, 13:37

The Danes are evidently not pleased with our changing to Protestants, 1514 sees a short, quick war with Denmark where we conquor Holstein, and end our vassalization to them.

An explorer joined the colour in 1510, and we immediately send him exploring to the west. By 1527, our colonies stretch across the American coastline.

strategy · 08-08-2001, 13:40

When Austria with her allies comes to grips with France and her allies, I grab the opportunity to stab Austria's allies in the back. Lorraine is chosen as the target, and soon I at war with everyone surrounding me.

Austria's ally Hessen quickly falls.

strategy · 08-08-2001, 13:44

The war still rages on in its fifth year. The rest of Saxony fell in 1528, which provided us with numerous cannons and additional men. A white peace bought Denmark, Sweden and Portugal of our back in the same year. Austria was forced to cede Pressburg and Ostmarch to our forces in 1529. Poland, England and Scotland were bought off with 8d in 1530. Bohemia was annexed 1532. In arms against us remain France (cannot reach us by land), Bavaria (miniscule), Pommerania, the Palatinate and Hungary.

strategy · 08-08-2001, 13:48

That's it for the little slideshow. Don't plan on finishing this game, but I just wanted to show how it can be done. It will take a bit more patience than the game with Denmark; world conquest probably won't be assured until 1650-1660. Hope you enjoyed it.

Galadriel · 08-08-2001, 13:56

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Originally posted by strategy
That's it for the little slideshow. Don't plan on finishing this game, but I just wanted to show how it can be done. It will take a bit more patience than the game with Denmark; world conquest probably won't be assured until 1650-1660. Hope you enjoyed it.

Did you make all nations annexable?
Did you cheat?

Sir Andrew · 08-08-2001, 14:36

Heh, damn. I was going to do this in the future.

At least you left the door open though.

Sir Andrew · 08-08-2001, 14:39

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Originally posted by Galadriel

Did you make all nations annexable?
Did you cheat?

I'd wager he didn't. This is no different than taking over the world as the Knights of St. John. You can often tell by the number of posts how good they are. If they post a lot, then that means they have info to share. It works in all cases except mine, for if it was totally true, I would have more posts than BiB.

strategy · 08-08-2001, 15:31

Originally posted by Galadriel
Did you make all nations annexable?

Yes, didn't get around to any of those yet.

Did you cheat?

Of course not.

hlv · 08-08-2001, 15:44

I'm curious: what does your inf, cav and art. cost (basic prices land tech 1)

What are your difficulty settings, what do you mean by normal/very hard iron man settings

And last but not least, I think you were "wrong" to choose Iceland as your experiment. Having an Island as your capital province just about removes the chance of your enemies grabing your capital early

The same with the Knights, try playing 1-nation Lorraine in the IGC, chances are you will be annexed by France early

strategy · 08-08-2001, 15:54

Originally posted by hlv
I'm curious: what does your inf, cav and art. cost (basic prices land tech 1)

Standard Norwegian prices, which I think are the same as for Denmark.

What are your difficulty settings, what do you mean by normal/very hard iron man settings

Normal aggressiveness. Very hard difficulty. Iron man = no reloading except when one has had to quit the game.

And last but not least, I think you were "wrong" to choose Iceland as your experiment. Having an Island as your capital province just about removes the chance of your enemies grabing your capital early

Totally agree.

The same with the Knights, try playing 1-nation Lorraine in the IGC, chances are you will be annexed by France early

That's nothing; if you really want it hard, make yourself a small 1 province Shiite Muslim or Orthodox country (no morale bonus, slow tech advance, no conversion to the better religions), right smack between Turkey and Persia, and give both CB against you. Still wouldn't be impossible, though.

hlv · 08-08-2001, 16:00

Impossible no, I quite agree

But play a 1-province poor country w/o alliance and placed near large powers with CB on you and chances are you'll get your ass whipped the first time they DOW you.

1-nation Moslem country, yuck

Galadriel · 08-08-2001, 16:05

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Still wouldn't be impossible, though.

I will not believe it until I see it

Sir Andrew · 08-08-2001, 17:56

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Originally posted by Galadriel

I will not believe it until I see it

Isn't there a Granada AAR floating around where he took over Spain or something?

Galadriel · 08-08-2001, 18:57

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Originally posted by Sir Andrew

Isn't there a Granada AAR floating around where he took over Spain or something?

I ment counqer the whole world when starting with just one province

The Danish King · 09-08-2001, 19:06

I wonder what place will be the hardest to to survive in with one country.

strategy · 13-08-2001, 09:21

I'd think a small orthodox country smack between Poland and Turkey, with both hating your guts and both having a CB shield against you. Oh yes - and of course it should be a plains province.

08-08-2001, 13:25	#1
strategy Banned Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Exiled to Norkoping, Sweden. Posts: 885	Icelandia Universalis (1492-1532) Screenshot AAR This will simply be a short screenshot AAR, without much detail. Setup is as follows: IGC 2.3 standard setup, with the following modifications: - Instead of Norway, Iceland is introduced as a major power. - Iceland controls Iceland and has a cassus belli against the Norwegian provinces. - Iceland is a vassal of Denmark and is an ally of Denmark. - Iceland uses the monarch files of Vinland. - Iceland starts with an army of 1000 cavalry and 4000 infantry. - Iceland starts with a fleet of 3 transports. - The population of the city in Iceland is increased to 1000. - Danish COT in Skaane. Settings: Normal/Very Hard, and playing by the Ironman rules. I'd note that it took some 4-5 games before I hit on the right formula for playing Iceland; one of those ended quite badly (I let myself be surprised by the BB wars in 1520), in the others the momentum of my offensives simply petered out before 1515 due to a lack of money - not a problem, except that I wanted to prove world conquest possible with Iceland. The current attempt, however, can easily be taken on to world conquest, IMO. Last edited by strategy; 08-08-2001 at 13:35.

08-08-2001, 13:29	#2
strategy Banned Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Exiled to Norkoping, Sweden. Posts: 885	The Lion has Landed! Landfall. After building up for 4 years and taking a loan of 1000d, we declare war on the Hanseatic League, Pommerania, and Holstein, Portugal and England. Our troops immediately lands in Bremen, while our Danish Allies as usually do nothing.

08-08-2001, 13:32	#3
strategy Banned Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Exiled to Norkoping, Sweden. Posts: 885	Empire of the North 1504 After annexing the Hanseatic League in 1497 and going bankrupt in 1498 (with a monthly income under 1d, no way can I repay 1000d), we take on Hannover, Saxony and Bohemia; annexing Hannover and taking a province from Saxony. 12 years has seen our empire grow from 1 province to 6. Holstein has been diploannexed by Denmark.

08-08-2001, 13:36	#4
Galadriel Queen of Lothlórien Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Aman Posts: 813	Interesting idee to play Iceland. Good luck! __________________ Crusader Kings Beta tester

08-08-2001, 13:37	#5
strategy Banned Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Exiled to Norkoping, Sweden. Posts: 885	Ny Icelandia 1527 The Danes are evidently not pleased with our changing to Protestants, 1514 sees a short, quick war with Denmark where we conquor Holstein, and end our vassalization to them. An explorer joined the colour in 1510, and we immediately send him exploring to the west. By 1527, our colonies stretch across the American coastline.

08-08-2001, 13:40	#6
strategy Banned Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Exiled to Norkoping, Sweden. Posts: 885	Bellum Universalis When Austria with her allies comes to grips with France and her allies, I grab the opportunity to stab Austria's allies in the back. Lorraine is chosen as the target, and soon I at war with everyone surrounding me. Austria's ally Hessen quickly falls.

08-08-2001, 13:44	#7
strategy Banned Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Exiled to Norkoping, Sweden. Posts: 885	Bellum Universalis 1532 The war still rages on in its fifth year. The rest of Saxony fell in 1528, which provided us with numerous cannons and additional men. A white peace bought Denmark, Sweden and Portugal of our back in the same year. Austria was forced to cede Pressburg and Ostmarch to our forces in 1529. Poland, England and Scotland were bought off with 8d in 1530. Bohemia was annexed 1532. In arms against us remain France (cannot reach us by land), Bavaria (miniscule), Pommerania, the Palatinate and Hungary.

08-08-2001, 13:48	#8
strategy Banned Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Exiled to Norkoping, Sweden. Posts: 885	Finis That's it for the little slideshow. Don't plan on finishing this game, but I just wanted to show how it can be done. It will take a bit more patience than the game with Denmark; world conquest probably won't be assured until 1650-1660. Hope you enjoyed it.

08-08-2001, 14:36	#10
Sir Andrew Voortrekker Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 339	Heh, damn. I was going to do this in the future. At least you left the door open though.

08-08-2001, 15:31	#12
strategy Banned Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Exiled to Norkoping, Sweden. Posts: 885	Re: Re: Finis Originally posted by Galadriel Did you make all nations annexable? Yes, didn't get around to any of those yet. Did you cheat? Of course not.

08-08-2001, 15:44	#13
hlv Second Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Fantasia Posts: 166	I'm curious: what does your inf, cav and art. cost (basic prices land tech 1) What are your difficulty settings, what do you mean by normal/very hard iron man settings And last but not least, I think you were "wrong" to choose Iceland as your experiment. Having an Island as your capital province just about removes the chance of your enemies grabing your capital early The same with the Knights, try playing 1-nation Lorraine in the IGC, chances are you will be annexed by France early

08-08-2001, 15:54	#14
strategy Banned Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Exiled to Norkoping, Sweden. Posts: 885	Originally posted by hlv I'm curious: what does your inf, cav and art. cost (basic prices land tech 1) Standard Norwegian prices, which I think are the same as for Denmark. What are your difficulty settings, what do you mean by normal/very hard iron man settings Normal aggressiveness. Very hard difficulty. Iron man = no reloading except when one has had to quit the game. And last but not least, I think you were "wrong" to choose Iceland as your experiment. Having an Island as your capital province just about removes the chance of your enemies grabing your capital early Totally agree. The same with the Knights, try playing 1-nation Lorraine in the IGC, chances are you will be annexed by France early That's nothing; if you really want it hard, make yourself a small 1 province Shiite Muslim or Orthodox country (no morale bonus, slow tech advance, no conversion to the better religions), right smack between Turkey and Persia, and give both CB against you. Still wouldn't be impossible, though.

08-08-2001, 16:00	#15
hlv Second Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Fantasia Posts: 166	Impossible no, I quite agree But play a 1-province poor country w/o alliance and placed near large powers with CB on you and chances are you'll get your ass whipped the first time they DOW you. 1-nation Moslem country, yuck

09-08-2001, 19:06	#19
The Danish King Defender of Denmark Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: The Kingdom of Denmark Posts: 625	I wonder what place will be the hardest to to survive in with one country. __________________ Give us Skåne, Norway, Holstein, Iceland, Normandy, England, Estonia, Gotland, Eireland, Finland, the Scottish Isles, Kingdom of Jerusalem, Helgoland, Rockall, Newfoundland, Labrador and the U.S. Virgin Islands back!

13-08-2001, 09:21	#20
strategy Banned Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Exiled to Norkoping, Sweden. Posts: 885	I'd think a small orthodox country smack between Poland and Turkey, with both hating your guts and both having a CB shield against you. Oh yes - and of course it should be a plains province.