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Inspired by WiF?
I'm curious to know - it has long been rumored that HOI was originally (and loosely?) inspired by WiF, the boardgame. Is this true? I have been a WiF'er for a long time, and was just curious ...
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11-02-2004, 19:02
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Will WiF ever become a pc game? thats the 20 billion question, if it would i would buy it immediately.
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11-02-2004, 19:12
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www.matrixgames.com is working on WiF the computer version.
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11-02-2004, 19:17
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This might be something worth playing, while waiting for HoI 2...
 But Matrix games is serious company, I'm pretty sure that will be good game.
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11-02-2004, 19:38
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WiF tough game to play, but lots of fun if you have the time.
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11-02-2004, 20:17
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I have been waiting for WIF the computer game for at least 2 years when I first heard it might be coming out. I am still waiting...
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11-02-2004, 22:29
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I have tried a beta version a while back. I found it alot less playable than HOI.
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11-02-2004, 22:39
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from what I know, all the designers knew and have played WiF. however hardly anything from this game went into HoI... personally, I can find no resemblance of it.
the computer (beta) version of wif is imho not playable, mainly coz of interface probs. but it´s just a beta, so we shouldn´t judge it on this (I have it still somewhere on my computer).
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11-02-2004, 22:58
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call me ignorant, but what is WiF?
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11-02-2004, 23:20
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11-02-2004, 23:59
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I'd buy that game except...
1) It's like $50 around here. 2) The only person who'd play it with me would be my dad, and he's halfway around the world right now.
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12-02-2004, 11:53
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Oh god, please give me the same numbers of "provinces" and "sea zones" in HoI2 like in WiF (...ok, nearly as much
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12-02-2004, 14:12
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only 2 years
i saw a website announce the WiF pc game back in 96 or 97...now 7 years later they say its going to happen, excuse my skepticism.If they could do it like the board game but with better, simplified rules i would think i would think it could be as popular as HOI if not more...or am i just nostalgic..?
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12-02-2004, 14:17
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WIF is truly a great game, and I see plenty of similarities echoed in HOI.
Like others, I've played the WIF beta, and it ain't pretty... Still, if they ever make something decent of it, I'll snap it up nice and quick - same as HOI2
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12-02-2004, 20:14
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Probably the best thing about WIF was its method of production. Having gearing limits to each of unit types. Every two months you could only increase your inf type production by one corps, for example. It would be nice not to get swamped by 30 divisions all coming out at once(HOI).
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12-02-2004, 21:09
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Man havent you guys heard of Axis and Allies? Dont you think HOI is inspired by A.A. more so then WIF? I cant even compare WIF to HOI.
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13-02-2004, 06:12
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WIF was originally " inspired" or knocked off, from Third Reich by Avalon Hill. A great boardgame that was too before its time to be done right on pc, so that version sucks.
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13-02-2004, 17:38
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Axis and Allies inspiring HOI? Wouldn't that be like saying 'the galley inspired the dreadnaught? Axis and Allies is a great tabletop game, more so when combined with Xeno games '39 expansion. But still, if you want A&A to be considered inspiration, maybe we should go back to RISK for inspiration as well. Better yet, ask the designer's of HOI what inspired them.
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14-02-2004, 03:24
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I was saying that HOI had way more in common with A&A then with WIF.
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14-02-2004, 14:41
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Actually, if you tech rush, your build strategies will be similar to those for A&A;
ie. Subs, aircraft, and inf for Japan, Ships and aircraft for UK, Inf for USSR, tanks and inf for Germany, and everything for USA
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