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** GAME TIMES 1900CET - whenever ** every saturday

This game is an edited 1520 scenario (IE2). For details on the edit view the imperial europe 2 post on the forum. Only major change is the inclusion of holland at start. Other changes are mostly game balance edits.

The rules below have mostly been taken from IE2 cos i am lazy. Thanks to drake who did the work :) I took ones out that i didnt like but if people want to change them please post asap before game starts. Please do read the rules cos some of them are quite major. I expect some people wouldnt like the 3 province rule for example.

Austria(The holy) - Fredrik
Sweden - SWE
Spain/Pope(The Righteous) - cheech
OE(The heathen)- Hmmm
Denmark(the brave) - King john
Poland - specterx
Russia - Drake
France(The reformist) - Arcorelli
Holland(The trader) - Bocaj
England - Artemis
Brandenburg - Enigma/chaingun

Rules

Cultures

-major cultures = france , anglosaxon , iberian , dutch , german , scandinavian , russian , polish , greek , arabic , Mongol

-minors cultures = romanian , slavonic , armenian , syrian , italian , gaelic ,basque ,swish ,chezch , lituanian , baltic , ugric , ruthanian ,maygar,berber

- exotic cultures = all cultures in asia , nubia , etheopia exept those in china , tibet , nippon , persian

1prov cultures wil be acted same as a exotic culture , exept that it doesn't count for the max amount of cultures

a max of 6cultures is possible , 1 prov cultures don't count (example syrian)

-major culture = you have to control all provs of the culture for 100years to be able to claim it , when you claim it then it wil be edited at the end of the session

-minor culture = you have to control all provs of the culture for 50years to be able to claim it , when you claim it then it wil be edited at the end of the session

-exotic culture = you have to control all provs of the culture for 5years to be able to claim it , when you claim it then it wil be edited at the end of the session

however if you loose more then half the provs from a culture for over 15years it wil be edited away again (this doesn't aply for cultures that the country started with at beginning of game)

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War and peace

--If at -3stab during player war you must accept next stab hit unless youre making progress, if there is an alliance you cant use this rule for a separate peace.

-maximum of 3 provinces may be taken by 1 alliance during the war , colonies count as half. cots count as 2 and a max of 6provinces can be taken in 1 war (when several alliances/players war a single-alliance or country)
(this rule wil expire in 1700)

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colonial

-Any nation except Spain or Portugal (note this exception does not appy after TOT) can purchase an explorer or conquistador for 1000 ducats. The specialist will have a 5 year life expectancy. Only one specialist can be purchased every 20 years. Each subsequent purchase costs an additional 500 ducats.

-Spain and Portugal are restricted to the ToT till 1625

-Spain may not diploannex portugal however he may war them as normal.

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General

-if a country drops then he will be picked up in jan or straight away if at war

-countrys that wheren't playt from start won't be added as regular players latter unless if atleast 2/3 of the regular players agree

insulting other players won't be tolerated
 
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I'll be there. btw, i notice Poland and Venice aren't in the playerlist. are we looking for players for these countries, or simply planning to go with what we have? I know we don't necessarily have a host yet or a player for France, yet if at all possible I think we ought to try to fill these spots. They would make the game much more interesting and help balance things.
 
I can play tommorow...but I think I will be late 30-60min.
 
ill be there tomorow
-and thanks for putting in the culture rules cheech



btw if you don't put certain areas oflimits youre gonna have a idiotic and huge ahistoric situations again.... china , interiour of africa ect where all impossible to conquer early in real live
 
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Specterx said:
If you guys are looking for a France player, I'd be willing to join...
You are welcome to play as France tomorrow IF Triangle or Enigma dont show up and want it, because they are regulers from the last game.
So show up tomorrow at 19CET and take a look at this thread if the game is on or not..

We sure have a host issue also, we could Try Tombstone witch had a great connection, or we have hmmm :)
 
I think Spain and Portugal may be able to buy specialists after the ToT ends. Having that restriction upon them after that doesn't really make much sense.

If we don't get all the players we need at the start, I could try and get here to sub them until nl appears.

Edit: I don't think it would be a good idea for me to play Portugal before the Dutch, for reasons that their areas of interest is much too similar for me to not be impartial in my play.
 
kj poland is in the list. I dont think a venice is needed and we have to many players anyway.

drake. I left these rules out as you see cos i dont like them :p. I think its a little artificial and biased towards certain nations. We could call a vote ?

Ive added that change to the rules bocaj.
 
cheech said:
kj poland is in the list. I dont think a venice is needed and we have to many players anyway.

drake. I left these rules out as you see cos i dont like them :p. I think its a little artificial and biased towards certain nations. We could call a vote ?

Ive added that change to the rules bocaj.

Could I play Venice until after the dutch are released then? Of course it would be harder for any nation with ambitions in the mediterrean, but I think that's good. :)
 
Bocaj said:
Could I play Venice until after the dutch are released then? Of course it would be harder for any nation with ambitions in the mediterrean, but I think that's good. :)
ok with me, but i would rather use you as sub nations until NL forms,
that would give you some insights also though, but i agree, Portugal aint good if u gonna play NL :D

i recomend people to post here if they can play tomorrow or not.

And what scenario are we gonna use? IE2? PE´s 1492? or PEs 1520?
lets vote..

Me vote fore a 1520, IE2 or PEs doesnt matter.
 
i vote either pe1520 or ie2
 
I vote 1520 IE2 so that I can start as nl. ;)

BTW we are going with the old patch right? I've played 20th of Jan patch and crashed twice in a few hours, so multiplying that by 10 and you have a not very nice game. :(
 
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i vote for PE 1492
 
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I'll be there, my uncle Tombstone too, and probably he will host...but it was som minor problem with him as a host i remember...but we'll try him at least....

Tobmstone hasn't agreed to england really but im sure he will play them....a quote from him: "i can take the country that nobody wants, exept brandenburg"

I vote for pe1520, but it doesnt matter actually...

Im not happy with denmark in the game....i would rather see venice or brandenburg....or mayby poland... :mad:
 
Fredrik_SWE said:
So we only need a France player? shouldnt be so hard to find :)

I'm interested, so if France is still available I could play them.