How to get rid of pirates? (plus cool pirate joke inside!!)

Brock Landers · 28-06-2001, 00:19

Too many damn pirates in the carribian!
I have a fleet of about 35 ships constantly patrolling the seas there and killing all pirates I find. It seems like as soon as they finish thier patrol all the pirates are back. They come quicker then I can kill them. There are even pirates in the actic North of Canada!

Its almost more trouble then its worth, killing them all. Is there a better solution? Should I forget about them?

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TEH FUNNEY:

A pirate walks into a bar with a steering wheel sticking out of his zipper. The bartender says "hey man, did you know you got a steering wheel sticking out of your pants?"

The pirate says, "Aye, it be driving me nutts".

AHAHHHHHAAahahahahahahah!!!!!!111

Xanadu · 28-06-2001, 00:36

To answer your question you can either....

Keep patroling because pirates affect the CoT value for which they are sailing close to , or provinces of said CoT.

..or...

Edit them out of the game entirely.....not what I recommened though.

-------your joke---------

Don't ever use as a pick up line.

Big Angry Jimmy · 28-06-2001, 00:57

Now, that's not actually a pirate joke, is it?

Bylandt · 28-06-2001, 01:03

You can't eradicate the Pirates. They will be coming back. Just ignore them and take the loss. In many cases another nation's fleet will take care of them for you. If you fight them, you will lose ships.

I strongly suspect the cost of rebuilding and maintaining ships to fight the pirates is higher than the loss of income.

One interesting point, though. I've noticed pirates don't affect the trade of all provinces bordering the sea they control. Only one is affected, I think. I have learned to colonise just those provinces which are never affected by Pirates.

Robb · 28-06-2001, 02:15

Building higher level forts makes pirates less likely to show up and I've found that provinces with higher level forts won't be affected by the pirates while others bordering the same sea zone will.

icecool · 28-06-2001, 03:31

Robb wrote:
"Building higher level forts makes pirates less likely to show up and I've found that provinces with higher level forts won't be affected by the pirates while others bordering the same sea zone will. "
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What level of Fort do you need to get up to?.

Cheers, Ice

Talmonious · 28-06-2001, 06:29

Well that many pirates is somewhat historical. Throughout history, sailors flocked to the seas to make an easy buck. Naturally, pirates would abound far from Europe with easy pickings to be had.

Brock Landers · 28-06-2001, 08:41

Yea butt it seems like these pirates have more ships then england and portugal combined!

von Curow · 28-06-2001, 09:29

I always like how early in some games if I check the VP leader board the pirates are usually in 2nd or 3rd place...

Pirates are way too annoying. First of all, as stated, getting rid of them is a full time job, and you never really get rid of them. Second of all, they generally seem to be one step ahead of everyone in naval tech (totally ahistorical, I am afraid). Both AI fleets, as well as my own, are constantly getting whooped, even with superior numbers.

One thing that really should be changed... Pirates never, ever, in the history of the world, completely shut down trade in a region. Sorry, but a fleet of pirate ships should reduce the trade production of nearby provinces, they should NOT completely eradicate it.

On the other hand, when I go to war and I have a string of vulnerable trading posts and colonies along the North American coast, it sure is nice to have a belt of pirate fleets "protecting" my coastline.

Heyesey · 28-06-2001, 11:54

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Originally posted by Brock Landers
Too many damn pirates in the carribian!
I have a fleet of about 35 ships constantly patrolling the seas there and killing all pirates I find. It seems like as soon as they finish thier patrol all the pirates are back. They come quicker then I can kill them. There are even pirates in the actic North of Canada!

Its almost more trouble then its worth, killing them all. Is there a better solution? Should I forget about them?

Yes, you should forget about them. Every time you kill a pirate fleet a new pirate fleet will appear in the same region - quite often in the same province - sometimes within two days of you killing the old fleet. If you just ignore the first few fleets to turn up, new ones won't appear. Either way, no matter what you do there will always be the same number of pirate fleets about.

Emperor of Europe · 28-06-2001, 13:01

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Originally posted by Heyesey

Yes, you should forget about them. Every time you kill a pirate fleet a new pirate fleet will appear in the same region - quite often in the same province - sometimes within two days of you killing the old fleet. If you just ignore the first few fleets to turn up, new ones won't appear. Either way, no matter what you do there will always be the same number of pirate fleets about.

Agreed. Hunting pirates is a waste of time and money. Let the AI fleets do it if they want to.

Regards,

EoE

strategy · 28-06-2001, 13:16

New pirates will pop up if you do not eradicate those already in existence. I tended to use large 50 ship fleets to hunt them down.

Pirates dissappear after 1720, so if you can survive that long...

Emperor of Europe · 28-06-2001, 13:37

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Originally posted by strategy
New pirates will pop up if you do not eradicate those already in existence. I tended to use large 50 ship fleets to hunt them down.

Pirates dissappear after 1720, so if you can survive that long...

But is it worth the effort and cost of building and maintaining those fleets? It seems to me that pirates don't really affect your income that much, but it's only a gut feeling.

Regards,

EoE

Sahir · 28-06-2001, 15:39

Fellow EU'ers,

That's been my experience as well. Nowadays I just completely ignore them and just suffer the occasional loss when I forget they are afoot. It's too much trouble to deal with them on a never-ending basis when there's so many other things to do in the game.

sahir

Josephus I · 28-06-2001, 15:45

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Originally posted by von Curow
I always like how early in some games if I check the VP leader board the pirates are usually in 2nd or 3rd place...

Yeah i notice that too. How does that happen?? That early in the game, there can't be that many battles for them to win, so what are they collecting points from??

Sonny · 28-06-2001, 15:57

The pirates get all their points from taking terra incognito provinces - which are easy to take. That is why they have good points early on. But later when they have taken all of the TI provinces there is nothing left but sea battles so they lose out in the end.

Trooper · 28-06-2001, 16:09

Do you mean the pirates discover TI areas? If so why can't you steal their maps?

Emperor of Europe · 28-06-2001, 16:29

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Originally posted by Trooper
Do you mean the pirates discover TI areas? If so why can't you steal their maps?

Guess you've never read or seen "Treasure Island"?
Pirates tend to get very, very upset if you steal their maps. Especially the ones with a large X

Regards,

EoE

Sonny · 28-06-2001, 16:50

You can't steal pirate maps - but you are allowed to trade maps with them.

Emperor of Europe · 28-06-2001, 16:53

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Originally posted by Sonny
You can't steal pirate maps - but you are allowed to trade maps with them.

Eh? And how do you do that? When I access the diplomacy screen I have a hard time finding the secret pirate cove on the world map. Especially if it's in Terra Incognita.

Regards,

EoE

28-06-2001, 00:19	#1
Brock Landers Major Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Bayside California Posts: 741	How to get rid of pirates? (plus cool pirate joke inside!!) Too many damn pirates in the carribian! I have a fleet of about 35 ships constantly patrolling the seas there and killing all pirates I find. It seems like as soon as they finish thier patrol all the pirates are back. They come quicker then I can kill them. There are even pirates in the actic North of Canada! Its almost more trouble then its worth, killing them all. Is there a better solution? Should I forget about them? . . . . . TEH FUNNEY: A pirate walks into a bar with a steering wheel sticking out of his zipper. The bartender says "hey man, did you know you got a steering wheel sticking out of your pants?" The pirate says, "Aye, it be driving me nutts". AHAHHHHHAAahahahahahahah!!!!!!111

28-06-2001, 00:36	#2
Xanadu Protector of Paradise Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Snohomish, Washington, USA Posts: 5,042	To answer your question you can either.... Keep patroling because pirates affect the CoT value for which they are sailing close to , or provinces of said CoT. ..or... Edit them out of the game entirely.....not what I recommened though. -------your joke--------- Don't ever use as a pick up line. __________________ For I have dined on honeydew , And drunk the milk of paradise.

28-06-2001, 00:57	#3
Big Angry Jimmy First Lieutenant Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 221	Now, that's not actually a pirate joke, is it? __________________ What?

28-06-2001, 02:15	#5
Robb Corporal Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Doha, Qatar, from Texas Posts: 156	Building higher level forts makes pirates less likely to show up and I've found that provinces with higher level forts won't be affected by the pirates while others bordering the same sea zone will. __________________ Robb

28-06-2001, 15:39	#14
Sahir Second Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Maryland Posts: 112	Fellow EU'ers, That's been my experience as well. Nowadays I just completely ignore them and just suffer the occasional loss when I forget they are afoot. It's too much trouble to deal with them on a never-ending basis when there's so many other things to do in the game. sahir __________________ Those dang Shonians just just won't accept our superior Austrian culture; we can thank Muhammad for that! - Adolf Prosselyte, head Austrian missionary to Africa

28-06-2001, 01:03	#4
Bylandt Bylandt Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Flanders Posts: 1,201	You can't eradicate the Pirates. They will be coming back. Just ignore them and take the loss. In many cases another nation's fleet will take care of them for you. If you fight them, you will lose ships. I strongly suspect the cost of rebuilding and maintaining ships to fight the pirates is higher than the loss of income. One interesting point, though. I've noticed pirates don't affect the trade of all provinces bordering the sea they control. Only one is affected, I think. I have learned to colonise just those provinces which are never affected by Pirates.

28-06-2001, 03:31	#6
icecool Banned Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: California, USA Posts: 989	Robb wrote: "Building higher level forts makes pirates less likely to show up and I've found that provinces with higher level forts won't be affected by the pirates while others bordering the same sea zone will. " ________ What level of Fort do you need to get up to?. Cheers, Ice

28-06-2001, 06:29	#7
Talmonious Positively Pessimistic Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 232	Well that many pirates is somewhat historical. Throughout history, sailors flocked to the seas to make an easy buck. Naturally, pirates would abound far from Europe with easy pickings to be had.

28-06-2001, 08:41	#8
Brock Landers Major Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Bayside California Posts: 741	Yea butt it seems like these pirates have more ships then england and portugal combined!

28-06-2001, 09:29	#9
von Curow Major Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Quincy, Mass. Posts: 792	I always like how early in some games if I check the VP leader board the pirates are usually in 2nd or 3rd place... Pirates are way too annoying. First of all, as stated, getting rid of them is a full time job, and you never really get rid of them. Second of all, they generally seem to be one step ahead of everyone in naval tech (totally ahistorical, I am afraid). Both AI fleets, as well as my own, are constantly getting whooped, even with superior numbers. One thing that really should be changed... Pirates never, ever, in the history of the world, completely shut down trade in a region. Sorry, but a fleet of pirate ships should reduce the trade production of nearby provinces, they should NOT completely eradicate it. On the other hand, when I go to war and I have a string of vulnerable trading posts and colonies along the North American coast, it sure is nice to have a belt of pirate fleets "protecting" my coastline.

28-06-2001, 13:16	#12
strategy Banned Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Exiled to Norkoping, Sweden. Posts: 885	New pirates will pop up if you do not eradicate those already in existence. I tended to use large 50 ship fleets to hunt them down. Pirates dissappear after 1720, so if you can survive that long...

28-06-2001, 15:57	#16
Sonny Advocatus Sancti Sepulcri Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind the curve Posts: 9,974	The pirates get all their points from taking terra incognito provinces - which are easy to take. That is why they have good points early on. But later when they have taken all of the TI provinces there is nothing left but sea battles so they lose out in the end.

28-06-2001, 16:09	#17
Trooper Major Join Date: May 2001 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada Posts: 741	Do you mean the pirates discover TI areas? If so why can't you steal their maps? __________________ -A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.

28-06-2001, 16:50	#19
Sonny Advocatus Sancti Sepulcri Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind the curve Posts: 9,974	You can't steal pirate maps - but you are allowed to trade maps with them.