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Andonie 1883-1885: The Industrial Problem​

Though Carlos Andonie nearly universally condemned the outcry against the broken promise, categorically stating that he acted within his rights and that the actions taken against him were unconscionable, his administration took a noticeably more conciliatory tone from 1883 onwards. After Antonio De Santa Rosa's resignation from the Ministry of Political Affairs in 1883, Andonie appointed the former socialist candidate Sérgio Gogołów as the Minister of Employment (a newly created ministry to manage the mounting outcries against him) and a relatively unknown foreign prince to replace the Roseno's vacated position. These actions, however, did not silence the mounting cries for resignation from certain quarters, particularly following Sebastian Roseno untimely death shortly after the appointments. Former President Antonio De Santa Rosa, freshly resigned from the administration, became an outspoken critic of Andonie in the waning years of the presidency.

Sebastian Roseno might have died peacefully in his sleep, but not all of Andonie's problems were so easily fixed. With the problem of mounting unemployment in Tucuman skillfully diverted to the socialists (who could not practically implement the moderate socialist ideals of worker ownership under a liberal administration), Andonie set about shoring up the economy. A string of successes followed on the home front, the Santiago stock exchange opening in 1884 and a system of business banks accompanying it in early 1885. Attempts to organize the factories and expand the national railroad system were also undertaken by capitalists under the laissez-faire policies. Andonie, however, faced mounting criticism over his handling of the military from more jingoistic quarters, as many claimed he had abandoned military modernization in favor of business interests. In response to this, Andonie commissioned two new Ironclads during his second administration, Blanco Enclada and Capitan Prat ((yes, it's the game's fault)), bringing the Chilean Navy's total to six capital ships, one frigate, and one steamer transport flotilla.

Subercaseux, meanwhile, was having problems on the foreign policy front. While he wished to bring Mexico and the USCA under the banner of the Chilean common market, a stubborn defense of their spheres by the Americans and Confederates respectively stymied his every attempt. What was worse, the French had renewed a diplomatic offensive in Brazil and the British did the same in Venezuela, forcing Subercaseux to devote most of his efforts to the defense of existing treaties. The result was that Chile managed to hold onto its common market but neither the UK nor France had yet given up their attempts at further diplomatic overtures towards either country.

In the Congreso, which had an unusual respite from the trials of minister-level traitors and other high officials against the Republic, the socialists finally managed to push through a bill legalizing political activities of unions and direct advocacy of socialist ideals by said unions. The Republic since the revolution had possessed legal unions, but political activity had previously been banned (which was, in effect, a de facto ban of socialist unions). The FNT hailed the legislation as a victory for the socialists, and Andonie agreed to sign the bill into law.

The liberation of Lombardia ended in white peace for Austria, Italy, and their many allies, and as Andonie left office in 1885 the world was again at peace.

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Romano-Santa Rosa Military Reform Act:

I. Declaration of War
1. A congressional vote on a war must reach or exceed two-thirds of the vote.
2. In the event of a presidential veto, the override vote must reach or exceed three-fourths of the vote.

II. Army Chief of Staff
1. The position of Army Chief of Staff (referred to as COS) will be elected by majority vote.
2. The COS will, from any serving member of the Armed Forces of Chile, will nominate a successor should the COS fall ill, die, or in any other way be incapable of selecting commanders.
3. The COS has no power to distribute soldiers through the army.
3a The COS can however, request the Congreso to revise a presidential distribution in peacetime (the vote requires a simple majority).

III. Presidential War Powers
1. The President cannot, under any circumstances revoke the right of Habeas Corpus.
2. The President cannot torture enemy combatants.
3. The President has full control over military maneouvres, distribution, and supply.
3a. Refer to II3a on COS distribution challenges.
3b. The president can defer supply, manueouvre, and otehr [sic] day-to-day affairs to his War Minister
4. The President cannot raise funds for the military without congressional approval.

Player Actions Needed:
Agitators, Chief of Staff Candidates, and Presidential Candidates for 1886-1890 should declare now.

Vote yes or no on Proportional Representation.

We've also got the Romano-De Santa Rosa's military reform act to look at, which we will vote on section by section.

And lastly, the game has just thrown up the possibility of implementing Tycoon Capitalism and Business Schools Focus.

Sample Ballot:
Proportional Representation: Yes/No
RSRMRA Section 1: Yes/No
RSRMRA Section 2: Yes/No
RSRMRA Section 3: Yes/No
Tycoon Capitalism and Business Schools: Yes/No

Sample Declarations:
I'm running for President on the Liberal/Republicano/Patriota/FNT/Comunista ticket!
I'm running for Chief of Staff!
I'm agitating!

I'm also implementing revised rules for agitators: you can declare agitation at any time but are disenfranchised for a full five years. IE: If you start agitating in 1888, you're disenfranchised until 1893. The same is true for coup disenfranchisement.
 
I'm running for President on the Comunista ticket!

Proportional Representation: Yes
RSRMRA 1: No
RSRMRA 2: Abstain
RSRMRA 3: Abstain
Tycoon Capitalism and Business Schools: No
((Contains capitalism :mad:))

-Osvaldo Tamiuszski
 
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((Wait, so according to the RSRMRA bill, will the President still need the consent of the CoS for appointments? It doesn't seem like it.))

I'm running for President on the FNT ticket!

Proportional Representation: Yes
RSRMRA Section 1: No
Tycoon Capitalism and Business Schools: No


Members of the FNT!

As Chairman of the FNT, I hereby call the opening of the first Pre-Election Committee. FNT members are advised to present their proposals to me in accordance with the bill. If you have lost your copy, then please do say so as I would be more than happy to send you a new one.

- FNT Chairman Sérgio Gogołów
 
Proportional Representation: Yes
RSRMRA Section 1: Yes
RSRMRA Section 2: Yes
RSRMRA Section 3: No
Tycoon Capitalism and Business Schools: No

I'm running for President on the Republicano ticket
 
It has been a tumultous but successful 10 years and while I have regrets, certainly a few, I am glad that I did it my way and not the way of the naysayers leftists and communists. Liberalism has proven to be a success and we have shown the the country that there can be a Liberal Government without tyranny. The economy is booming, we are a world power and I look forward to watching Chile continue to grow. I would urge all supporters of freedom to vote for the LIberal candidate again and whoever it is will have my support. I must also thank my colleauges in the Repunlicanos who have proven excellent ministers and good friends over this time.

Presidente Andonie
 
((If you want to separate Section 1, and call it the Romano War Act, or whatever it was initially called, and have the other two sections be the Santa Rosa Military Reform Act, I'm fine with it. And what is the Tycnoon Capitalism thing?

And on Chief of Staff-Presidential Appointments, when I get back from class, I put in the bill itself. If I don't, then it will remain the way it has been (well, the way it was supposed to work)))

Proportional Representation: Yes
RSRMRA: Yes (or Yes to Romano War Act and Santa Rosa Military Reform Act if they get divided.
Tycoon Capitalism and Business Schools: Abstain (until I know what it does)
 
((It's a research school for technology.))

((To add onto that, I think it gives bonus research for Commerce and Industry while worse research for the rest. I'm a bit iffy though if it actually gives bonus to Industry as well. Commerce I am unequivocally sure.))
 
((If you want to separate Section 1, and call it the Romano War Act, or whatever it was initially called, and have the other two sections be the Santa
And on Chief of Staff-Presidential Appointments, when I get back from class, I put in the bill itself. If I don't, then it will remain the way it has been (well, the way it was supposed to work)))

)

((What do you mean supposed to work. It did, congress appointed a COS and we negotiated on the appointments and the splits of the armies. Not one decision was made withouht us both approving. Thought that was how it was supposed to work??))
 
Proportional Representation: No
RSRMRA Section 1: No
RSRMRA Section 2: Yes
RSRMRA Section 3: Yes
Tycoon Capitalism and Business Schools: No


((TH, will proportional representation affect the way we vote in the thread. If Section 2 of the RSRMRA passes will it effect the current arrangement of appointing Generals, it does not mention General appointments, I assume distribution is number of soldiers in each army or does that also include General appointments))
 
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I am not agitating anymore.

In a Austrian beer hall in Santiago the people suddenly were surprised when a man they all knew entered. Colonel Weissmüller was back in town after years of self imposed exile. "I am running for the title of president for the Patriotas! It's cleaning time and all the filth of this city will be washed away, and as president I would make sure Andonie will be punished for treason."
 
((Isn't there a bounty on your head? So you can't really run for the presidency.
And yes, TCBS gives bonuses to Industry and Commerce tech research, while giving a penalty to Army and Navy tech research, nothing for Culture.))
 
Proportional Representation: Yes
RSRMRA Section 1: No
RSRMRA Section 2: Yes
RSRMRA Section 3: No
Tycoon Capitalism and Business Schools: Abstain
 
Proportional Representation: Yes
RSRMRA Section 1: NO
RSRMRA Section 2: No
RSRMRA Section 3: NO
Tycoon Capitalism and Business Schools: Yes


No to the first section as it gives too much power to the president in terms of a veto override. No to the second section because it reduces the effectiveness of the Chief of Staff. What is the point of electing him if he is not able to have a say in the distribution of troops as he currently has. This woeked well with General Schmidt, we both decided on the allocation without the need to go back to congress for futher approval. No to the third section as the President should have the right to raise troops without the need to go back to congress. This Bill has good intentions but will create a situation worse than the current one.
 
Proportional Representation: Yes
RSRMRA 1: No
RSRMRA 2: Abstain
RSRMRA 3: Abstain
Tycoon Capitalism and Business Schools: Abstain


I, General Charles Maximilien de Conti, declare my intention to run for Chief of Staff.

This has been a tough term for the army. The coup of 1881 and its aftermath embroiled the army once more in a debate about its role and responsibilities, as well as perceived political influences. Immediately afterwards, a series of errors lead to costly consequences during the Argentine War, when ill-prepared Chilean armies blundered across the border and were duly given a bloody nose for their troubles. In both the political and military spheres, we have been discredited. It is no surprise that the defence industry has fallen in priority in the past years, though I believe that - with all the threats that face our Republic and the South American union - we must now strive more than ever to ensure that our national forces are equipped to defend Chile. It is thus my hope that we can reverse these setbacks, restore our proud legacy and ensure that the army is more reliable and more effective in future. This I shall achieve as Chief of Staff.

I am a firm advocate of army abstention in politics. It is the remit of the military to protect the Republic from external threats and uphold law and order within its territories. We should be beholden to nothing but the Republic itself, and remain free of political interests. The army is an independent institution, not a political pawn. As Chief of Staff, I will ensure that officers are selected for their quality of character and martial ability, not their loyalty to any political faction. Meritocracy shall trump nepotism. We will join the finest minds with the strongest men, and create an invincible army that will do for Chile what the Sacred Band did for Thebes.

If chosen as Chief of Staff, I would ensure that our army was not only restored to greatness, but also to independence, so that it may more effectively uphold the constitutional order and defend the democratic Republic from its exterior enemies.

- General Charles Maximilien de Conti