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The 1836 Conventions​

The 1836 Conventions were watched closely by the political elites. The Liberales nomination was never in question. Michael Badajoz, a pro-war political reformist, enjoyed the unanimous support of the partido and ran an unopposed campaign. Declaring oneself a liberal in the wake of the civil war of the last decade was a courageous act in Chilean politics, as the liberals had been the losing party. Still, the 1836 election saw their return into politics behind the Badajoz as a patriot, and though they knew they were sorely outnumbered, Badajoz was nominated with much fanfare at their small convention in the fall.

The Conservadores' convention was much less unified and much less certain. The original 3-man race between the more right-wing Francisco Rivera, the moderate Eduardo Romano, and the sitting Colonel Manuel Carrera quickly became a two-man race as Carrera dropped out, throwing his support to Rivera. This surprise move shocked many outside analysts, who had seen Carrera as a shoe-in to carry the influential military's support and by extension the nomination. Those more in the know muttered that whatever had come between him and Prieto must have hamstrung him from the start. The endorsement was seen to make Rivera a shoe-in until Armando de Vasces, the influential Mayor of Maipu, renounced Rivera and endorsed Romano, reversing the tide yet again.

From that point onwards, Rivera and Romano were neck-and-neck, often tied in delegate supporters. Romano's camp believed Rivera to be too willing to spend excessively on the military, to the point that they feared it would stunt the growth of the nation. Rivera claimed that Romano was the weaker candidate and willing to sell the country to foreigners and mining interests while leaving them unprepared for war. The militarists and the moderates were evenly matched right to the doors of the convention center. The nation seemed to hold its breath as the candidates campaigned and the delegates drew to the capital for the final vote.

The grueling three-day session in a Santiago convention center saw tied ballot after tied ballot as arguments and even threats were thrown back and forth to no avail. The militarists became disgruntled and many threatened to split the party, to walk out of the center and run their own candidate for President. After twenty ballots and no sign of a clear winner, the threat of a split became more and more real.

The stalemate was broken in the eleventh hour by the defection of Eduardo Silvia, an influential general, from Romano to Rivera's camp. The switch left Romano reeling and before he could scramble to regain support, a handful of delegates from the militarist camps in Southern Chile, who had previously been delayed by seasonal rains and snow, arrived to declare their allegiance to Rivera as well. The additional support gave Rivera the clear majority he needed to claim the nomination.

Only a few miles away, the Liberales rejoiced at the news, believing they could claim the conservative-moderate vote and take the presidency themselves. Time would tell.

Meanwhile, in the Congreso, the matter of the Alliance with Paraguay was put to a vote. A vigorous debate followed, with those in favor claiming that Paraguay could strengthen Chile's position in the region and aid in the war to come with Bolivia, while those against asserted that they were more a liability than an asset. The Alliance enjoyed broader support than some had speculated, but was eventually voted down by the Congreso, which could see no point in allying with one of the weakest nations in South America.

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Badajoz and atomicsoda, I need your platforms! The Presidential election starts as soon as you get them in, so don't plod around it. If I don't get them by this time tomorrow, we start regardless.

Pallen, I still need your compromise bill if you want it on the ballot.
 
I am Braulio Silva, Eduardo Silvia is the other guy. ;p ))

Yeah, we have multiple Silvias and a disproportionate number of people whose last names start with R.
 
" Francisco Rivera,
I trust that you will represent us well in the election, and while my political and military power may be little, I want you to know that I support your cause. I trust that you will take us through the pass of righteousness and prosperity.
The best of wishes,
as always yours truly. "

Coronel Francisco Javier de Miranda Reina
 
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"Members of the Congreso, I'd like to say thank you to those who supported my election in the primary of the Conservadores, and I'd like to congratulate Senator Rivera with his victory.

I understand many of my supporters are disapointed, and so am I, but the majority favours Rivera. We might have lost the battle, but not yet the war. Even though I am sad to see the majority wishing to impose such monstrous taxes, then it still makes me smile to see such a large part of the party in favour of the comprimise. As I read the notes from the primary, I remembered our dear advisery, Rivera, say that we if I was elected, we would face heavy taxation from foreign invaders, but a vote for Rivera was a vote for heavy taxation by a Chilean Government. The great majority - and let me repeat - majority - of the militarists only concern seems to be the military.

I have seen little empathy for the common Chilean, and this brings me back to colonial times, under Spain. Why did we fight for independance? Why couldn't we accept Spanish rule? I will tell you why - because the spanish put a heart crushing tax, to produce a large income which they could send back to Spain. When I see Rivera's policies and a possible government under him and the militarists, then I see a Spanish rule under Chileans. Heavy taxation, without regard for the people, onyl for the military.

Which is why I wonder why our Generals fought for Chile, in the independance war, if all they care about is the military and it's protection, disregarding the people. Under Spanish rule we had a strong military, and protection from a strong great power. If they did not fight for the people that day, then I don't know what they fought for. One thing is certain - I refuse to support another "Spanish" government.

Which brings me to my next agenda my dear supporters, we can still use our influence and we can still secure Chile and its people a respectable future. Our last card of triumph would be a coalition with the Liberales, and which is why I am considering to throw my support to Senator Badajoz. Once he has stated his policies clearly, I suggest you read them and consider - for even though we might have a Liberal President, then we can still influence Conservative ideals into that government. With our support for their candidate, then we might gain a great enough majority to pass the Mining-Act, which is my plan to save Chile.

1) Decrease taxes with 25%, ending down on a taxrate of 50% indstead of the 75%
2) Decrease military spending by 30% of the original proposal, should the Peru-Bolivia act not have passed
a) 10% of the 30 will go for higher salary for our soldiers, and the other 10% will go to salary for the Generals.
b) Last 20% will go to the state treasury.
3) A diplomatic mission to the United States, in order to draw investors for hopefully 5.000 pounds, and a loan on 10.000 pounds.
a) 5.000 Pounds will go to buy new machinery for government mines, increasing the production of gold and minerals.
b) 10.000 Pounds will go to the construction of new mines, further increasing our production.
4) The profit of the mining industry will go to repay our debt by a small amount each month, lower the taxes down to 35% from the 50%, improve our military once again by another 20% after the original cut has been reparied.

((Here it is Thunderhawk))

Once again, thank you for your support."

-Senator Romano
 
"Mister Romano, I thank you for your support and willingness to comply with the turn of events. However, I would personally like to assuage your fears and explain my own and my compatriots' stances.

"Firstly, to address the issue of the military, the reason we support and maintain the military is because we are in a most hostile environment, as I have shown you on the map earlier, we are rather literally backed into a corner, firstly by Bolivia and Peru, who hold lands that belong to us, and then by large Argentina, who may want access to the Pacific Ocean soon, with only hopes of fraternity coming from a rather unlikely source. Paraguay, who is amongst the weakest in all of Latin America. It is because of this, that I advocate the temporary, short term suffering for the sake of long-term prosperity.

"I understand what you mean when you say you have seen little empathy for the Chilean people, and to be honest, I would appreciate it if my own compatriots would address this issue more, even if only so that we can put your fears to rest. But however, maintaining a strong military is essential to the survival of Chile and her people. But I say once more, have you forgotten the Chileans to the North? What about them, those under Bolivian rule? Are we to turn our backs on them because they are not in the homeland? Why else would we be so gung ho on a military policy if we weren't trying to free the people of Chile you others have forgotten?

"And as for the taxation, let me say this one more time. 'Short term suffering, and long term prosperity'. But to be quite frank, the taxes leave a bitter taste in my own mouth, at least for the time being, we should avoid taxation and perhaps focus on trying to find more efficient ways to collect the taxes the people are already paying. (( ie. Research economic stuff ;) )) I believe that this issue will be resolved once we have a self-sustaining economy with a strong military. I voted yay on the Peru-Bolivia Act, because we need a strong military if Chile is to survive the storm gathering on the horizon."
 
As a supporter of Rivera i must detest this view that all of us (the supporters) are warmonglers centred round the military. I myself am a clerk, and will gladly drink the bitter cup of taxation as, it is better than facing unrelenting invasion. We are not pushing for an agenda of war but using the military as a shield, as it was designed, so that we may build and become strong. And if the oppotunity presents itself, bring back what was once long lost.



~ André de L'ombre
 
"General, I never claimed I would leave our people up north to rot. Quite on the contrary, I would prefere a liberation of them if possible. However waging a war with an unstable economy would make such a campaign a nightmare - this is why I wished to initially cutback on the military, repair the econemy - improve the military, and then see the possibilities for a liberation. Our goals are the same, but methods differently - if Rivera wins the election, then I pray i am wrong".

- Senator Romano
 
((Nice update, cant wait for a good war!))

I congratulate all the candidates on an exelent primary. We can now certainly reclaim our lands.

General Eduardo Silva
Liberator and Defender
 
"You accused my compatriots of neglecting the people of Chile because they did not mention much of them in the campaign, therefore, you are liable to the exact same accusation, only with you, it's the people of Chile to the north. I am done debating though, as the elections are done. Take my word or you can leave it, but all I ask is that you give Rivera and myself a chance."
 
((Saw this on Spitfires sig on THE PRESIDENTS, and thought "this could be interesting"))

Antonio de Santa Rosa
Date of Birth: 29 May 1804
Occupation: Capitalist (1826-1836), General (1836-1847), Mayor of Santiago (1848-1856), Leader of the Republicanos (1856-), Interim President (1861(63)-1866), President (1866-1871)
Party: Liberales

Born to a local businessman in Santiago, Antonio soon found his calling in business and economics. As his family was somewhat wealthy, he was given the opportunity to go to Europe and the United States. Whilst in Europe, he acquainted himself with a young man named de Tocqueville. He soon became a self-described Liberal and republican, and came to despise all forms of authoritarian government. During his trip to America, which eventually became a college residency at Yale, he became even more enthused about liberalism and business, seeing how New England had moved from a colony into an industrial powerhouse. During his trip home, in Spring, 1826, he fell in love and got married. Now, the successful father of three is trying his hand in politics, as an ardent liberal.

SPOILER

In early 1836, President Badajoz appointed de Santa Rosa, now a successful businessman, General of the Army of the North. Though he was inexperienced, and amateurish as a result, his men found him a charismatic and inspirational leader, one who followed the great principle of never living better than his men, sleeping in a small tent, eating the same food, and often marching in the South American heat with his men. During the Argentine War, he served with distinction, fighting a much larger force until Colombian reinforcements arrived.

Before the wars end, though, General turned Minister Zepeda, a powerful man who had narrowly lost the presidency five years before, declared a coup, supported by General de Santa Rosa's friend and commander, President Badajoz. At first a supporter of the coup, when he received news to capture and execute any dissidents, he switched sides, declaring himself "for liberty." The coup beaten, the General went back to win the war... and run for president.

Eduardo Romano, the leader of the Conservadores, and de Santa Rosa, leader of the Liberales, then proceeded to condemn the frailties of the other's systems, vowing that their ideals were best for Chile. In the end, Romano won. De Santa Rosa served on only long enough to see the war end, ending his command in mid-1847. The following year, the immensely popular General ran, and won, the mayoralty of Santiago. His term was, by and large a success; he cut local taxes, cut spending, and managed to see a rise in economic prosperity, whilst the country as a whole languished under an economic malaise. He easily won re-election.

His second term, however, saw a massive reactionary revolution begin a few miles away from the capital. After a dispute with War Minister Carrera and President Romano, de Santa Rosa was given a command of the a small force of militia... officially. Unofficially, he commanded the entire emergency forces, since the administration was extremely unpopular at this point. The city, in the end, was saved, and the revolt was put down. The people of Santiago then decided to amend the city laws to allow de Santa Rosa a third term as mayor.

This term, though, was cut short by the creation of the Chilean Empire under the reactionary, militant, dictatorial 'president' Cesar Roseno, now "Emperor Cesar I." De Santa Rosa instantly made known his opposition, declaring his support for the Republic. Within weeks, de Santa Rosa, and other like-minded individuals, declared the Emperor a traitor, and proceeded to rebel under the name Republicanos. By popular support, de Santa Rosa was declared the leader of the movement, and he quickly set about organizing the resistance.

In Autumn, 1861, de Santa Rosa began a revolution to restore the Republic; after a bloody year of fighting, de Santa Rosa formed the Third Republic on 1 January 1863. That same month, a vote of confidence in his leadership was held...

He was chosen to serve as interim president of the Republic until the formal 1866 presidential elections. His presidency was incredibly successful, as Chile saw unprecedented economic growth, military expansion, international prestige, and seemed certain to receive the nomination for a full term.

His second term, which began in a landslide over the Socialistas, was, by and large, a continuation of his first term; Chile's economy continued to grow (though, due to international conflicts, it had slowed somewhat). De Santa Rosa himself felt 'vindicated' in his faith in capitalism; the five years saw a massive increase in factory creation and output. This term also saw another border dispute with Brazil resolved peacefully with the La Paz purchase, in which Chile bought the region for its 'ally' (or puppet) Bolivia, to resolve issues of ownership.

His presidency drew to a close in 1871, an immense success.
 
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"You accused my compatriots of neglecting the people of Chile because they did not mention much of them in the campaign, therefore, you are liable to the exact same accusation, only with you, it's the people of Chile to the north. I am done debating though, as the elections are done. Take my word or you can leave it, but all I ask is that you give Rivera and myself a chance."

"I suppose we have both learned how we could've improved our conversation. Elections done or not, a healthy debate is always most welcome."

- Senator Romano
 
To celebrate his continued citisenship Vladimere has deicded to change both his first and last name (he never was close to his familly) to the most chilean name of Rodrigo Chabez
 
"It's a sad day, two bad choices were made. Still we must respect the will of the people, may luck be with us"
 
This is a proud day for all of Chile. May Rivera win this election and bring our nation prosperity and protection, and may he also see past the uselessness and lies of this so called "Compromise" and veto it if brought before him.
 
Wow, amazing topic here! I'm from Chile and I find this very amusing!

Don't you mind if I join as a Liberal party congressman? To balance things a little heheh.

Name: Fernando Zepeda
Born: 1780
Party: Liberal
Background: An capitalist entrepreneur from Santiago, he wishes to use liberal policies to weaken the aristocratic elite to impose a plutocratic free-trade liberal government. His policy towards Peru-Bolivia act was a Yes, because he wishes Chile to own the sulfur mines up north to aid industry and turn Chile intro a Secondary Power. A strong opponent to State Capitalism, he has kept himself away from the last developments in the country, but has decided to take part recently.

"A pro-war approach against vultures like the Bolivian-Peruvians can only defend our democracy and freedom from their tyrannical clutches. Only victory and industry can protect our country from European powers. Candidate Badajoz, being an active reformist can indeed take this country foward into industrialization, and being a pro-war candidate he indeed represents the path Chile needs to follow. The sulfur mines in the North are not only Chile's legitimate claims, but they are also our gateway to develpoment.
-Congressman Zepeda
 
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Wow, amazing topic here! I'm from Chile and I find this very amusing!

Don't you mind if I join as a Liberal party congressman? To balance things a little heheh.

Name: Fernando Zepeda
Born: 1780
Party: Liberal
Background: An capitalist entrepreneur from Santiago, he wishes to use liberal policies to weaken the aristocratic elite to impose a plutocratic free-trade liberal government. His policy towards Peru-Bolivia act was a Yes, because he wishes Chile to own the sulfur mines up north to aid industry and turn Chile intro a Secondary Power. A strong opponent to State Capitalism, he has kept himself away from the last developments in the country, but has decided to take part recently.

"A pro-war approach against vultures like the Bolivian-Peruvians can only defend our democracy and freedom from their tyrannical clutches. Only victory and industry can protect our country from European powers. Candidate Badajoz, being an active reformist can indeed take this country foward into industrialization, and being a pro-war candidate he indeed represents the path Chile needs to follow. The sulfur mines in the North are not only Chile's legitimate claims, but they are also our gateway to develpoment.
-Congressman Zepeda

There can't be actual Chileans here! The AAR is built on no one knowing anything about Chile - actual knowledge will upset the entire balance of power.

(I'm kidding. Welcome to Shadow of the Andes. Hopefully you can help us figure out what we're doing.)