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As a reminder to all, please continue to restrain your mildly sinister pro-fascist tendencies and urges to comment on real-world politics, including real-world viability of in-game economic policies. Since we're not playing AHD, we don't have to discuss the changes in Laissez-Faire. I'm sure you can find a thread for that purpose elsewhere.

EDIT:

Declaration stage ends tomorrow morning, in about 17 hours (at 10 AM PST)

Presidential Candidates:

Liberales:

Republicanos: ((In Coalition))
Pedro Rivera ((atomicsoda))
Francisco de Santa Rosa ((Riccardo93))

Patriotas: ((In Opposition))
Severiano Miramontes ((Ivir Baggins))

FNT: ((In Power))
Sérgio Gogołów ((Dyranum))

Comunistas: ((In Opposition))
Osvaldo Tamiuszski ((tamius23))
Armando Renin ((Red Cesar))

Independents:
Mario Juarez ((LeeroyJenkins))

Chief of Staff:
Dio Guerrero ((Rogov))
Sebastian Hidalgo ((MastahCheef117))
Christiano Ferarri ((King50000))

Agitators:
 
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I have strong support either for a Republicano or FNT candidate, for they are the parties who understand Republican moderation over... radicalization

Colonel De Porto
 
(Why thank you, just saying it as I sees it ;-). I myself was the most surprised when the general complimented De Porto's superb logic).
 
(( Does anyone have any idea what he's talking about?

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OOC: So the disenfranchised can't really vote or declare until AFTER the election, right?
 
thekinguter said:
OOC: So the disenfranchised can't really vote or declare until AFTER the election, right?
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That's right. Since the coup took place during the last Presidential election and disenfranchisement lasts a full cycle, you can't vote until this Presidential election ends. That's about four days from now.

Update in an hour.
 
((When voting starts, can I get some sort of briefing on the Patriotas? I don't even remember how/when they formed and what their policies are.))
 
The 1891 Primaries: A World Without Liberals​
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The 1891 Primaries represented the largest shift in Chilean politics in decades. Ever since the time of the revolution, Chile had been dominated by moderate and radical liberal leadership, but with the liberal leadership now dead and their voting base scattered, the Liberal Nuevos were essentially not represented in the 1891 election season. They did not hold a convention and not a single liberal candidate attempted the run for President. As one particularly acerbic paper put it "they may find it difficult to seek the Presidency from their jail cells, gallows, and graves." For the first time since the fall of the Empire of the Andes, there would be no liberal candidate for President.

For most parties, this served their purpose just fine. Sérgio Gogołów, the incumbent President of the Republic, campaigned unopposed in the FNT primaries. The Comunistas, who may now saw as Gogołów's biggest challengers, again had a split in their ranks between the supporters of politburo members Osvaldo Tamiuszski and Armando Renin, who squared off over the nomination exactly as they'd done five years prior. The sole candidate for the Patriotas was popular military leader Severiano Miramontes. Old hat Pedro Rivera was joined by the surprise entrance of Francisco de Santa Rosa, university professor, novelist and son of revolutionary hero Antonio De Santa Rosa joined Rivera in the Patriota race in a shock entrance. Communist leading independent Mario Juarez also threw his hat into the ring, preaching solidarity between the Comunistas and the FNT for the sakes of both parties and seeking to forge a unity coalition.


Primary Candidates​




Republicanos Candidates: ((In Coalition))

Pedro Rivera ((atomicsoda)) - Pro Military/Moralism/Interventionism/Free Trade/Limited Citizenship [1+0+1+1+1=4]

Francisco de Santa Rosa ((Riccardo93)) - Pacifism/Secularism/Laissez-Faire/Free Trade/Full Citizenship [3+2+2+1+2=10]

Patriotas Candidates: ((In Opposition))

Severiano Miramontes ((Ivir Baggins)) - Pro Military/Pluralism/State Capitalism/Protectionism/Full Citizenship [1+1+0+0+2=4]

FNT Candidates: ((In Power))

Sérgio Gogołów ((Dyranum)) - Anti-Military/Secularism/State Capitalism/Free Trade/Full Citizenship [2+2+0+1+2=7]

Comunista Candidates: ((In Opposition))

Osvaldo Tamiuszski ((tamius23)) - Pacifism/Atheism/Planned Economy/Protectionism/Full Citizenship [3+3+3+0+2=11]

Armando Renin ((Red Cesar)) - Pro Military/Atheism/Planned Economy/Protectionism/Full Citizenship [1+3+3+0+2=9]

Independientes:

Mario Juarez ((LeeroyJenkins)) - Pro Military/Secularism/Planned Economy/Protectionism/Full Citizenship [1+2+3+0+2=8]

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As always, let me know if I've screwed something up.

It's time vote in the primaries again, and you know the drill by this point, right? As before, you vote on your favorite candidate if there is no coalition, your preferred coalition, and your preferred candidate if there is a coalition.

As a reminder, AGITATORS ARE DISENFRANCHISED AND CANNOT RUN FOR OFFICE OR VOTE!

Here's a sample ballot below.

Party: Republicanos
Candidate: Abstain
Coalition: With FNT/With Nacionales/With Comunistas/With Juarez/With more than one/No Coalition/Abstain
Coalition Candidate: Abstain

Since we're back to coalition voting, candidates can vote. We're voting on Chief of Staff later.

As a reminder, an independent can't get on the ballot for the general election without securing a coalition with at least one major party.

I'll give this two days to vote, ending 10 AM PST (6 PM GMT, I believe) on the 7th. I may cut it short if we get enough votes in quickly (25 or more by two days from now), as unlikely as that now seems.
 
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Party: Chilean Communist Party.
Candidate: Renin.
Coalition: None.
Coalition Candidate: None.

"The time for monumental change is upon us, comrades. Get out, and show the elite that we require change. A political revolution, is in the works, comrades. Fight the oppressors!"

-Comrade Armando Renin
 
Party: Comunistas
Candidate: Armando Renin
Coalition: Abstain
Coalition Candidate: Abstain

"With Comrade-Commander Renin alongside our movement, we have never gone astray."

- Dio Guerrero, General of the Army of Southern Chile
 
Party: Nacionales (same as Patriotas?) voting for Republicanos
Candidate: Pedro Rivera
Coalition: Abstain
Coalition Candidate: Abstain

- Gen. Sebastian Hidalgo
 
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LeeroyJenkins said:
OOC: Thanks
Party: Unity
Candidate: Mario Juarez
Coalition: FNT-Communista's
Coalition Candidate: Mario Juarez
We must seek solidarity between the allies of the worker or our cause will be destroyed!
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You don't have to vote. You have the sole right to decide whether you want to accept a coalition or not.
 
ThunderHawk3 said:
You don't have to vote. You have the sole right to decide whether you want to accept a coalition or not.
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((Um, alright not quite sure if I understand that but I will fix my post))
Comrades! Despite my respect for Renin and all he has done for the communista's we must realize that he cannot lead this party into victory. No man can, we have seen time and time again our cause fail due to ostrasizing voter's. We will never win on our own, we must unite under a undefeatable socialist coalition, it is the only way to win. The same goes out to the members of the FNT, without the liberales you can't win on your own.
As Marx once said it is time for the worker's to unite! We must stand together.
 
"Comrade, Gogolow has already won, and will continue to win. We can either role over, and be subjugated, or we run for our own victory, a victory of the people. There is no threat of a reactionary take over right now, and there is no threat of loss. The electoral battle here is between Socialist, and Communist. You're advocating for a continued moderate Socialist Republic, run by both Communists and Socialists. This will simply fall apart, this theory is unfounded. We advocate for a Dictatorship of the Proletarian, a real change to the lives of the worker. Status-quo be damned! If you truly wish to unite behind the worker, comrade, a separate third ticket is not the way to do it."

-Comrade Armando Renin
 
Red Cesar said:
"Comrade, Gogolow has already won, and will continue to win. We can either role over, and be subjugated, or we run for our own victory, a victory of the people. There is no threat of a reactionary take over right now, and there is no threat of loss. The electoral battle here is between Socialist, and Communist. You're advocating for a continued moderate Socialist Republic, run by both Communists and Socialists. This will simply fall apart, this theory is unfounded. We advocate for a Dictatorship of the Proletarian, a real change to the lives of the worker. Status-quo be damned! If you truly wish to unite behind the worker, comrade, a separate third ticket is not the way to do it."

-Comrade Armando Renin
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The only reason Gogolow won last time was through liberales support, I doubt they can support them from the afterlife so he will not have the same support. Likewise he will not have to waterdown his policies like he did now, together we can form a paradise for all Chilean's. Apart we will be crushed.
 
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