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Emergency Economic Stability Act: No

"I vote against the EESA for two reasons. Firstly, it lacks clarity and is overly vague. Secondly, it is the fault of those revolutionaries in charge of Chile that Chile is in the perilous state it is today."

Sebastian Montenegro
 
A more detailed description of Bevan's policies:

"I am in favour of State Capitalism because all of us should have a chance to succeed, and if the market cannot acheive that, then the government must.

I am in favour of Free Trade because I am in favour of fairness for all. Tariffs may benefit some workers and capitalists becuase it gives them extra income, but who do they harm? The unemployed, already the worst off, because they have to pay more for food. I will build a nation that benefits all, not just many.

I am in favour of full citizenship because we were all immigrants once, and that is what this entire nation was built on.

I am in favour of secularization because we have no right to impose our beliefs on others.

I am pro-military because Chile needs to defend itself, but not go expansionist-crazy."
 
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EESA: Yes
As for my policies, I am in favor of state-capitalism, at least for now the Republic must be rebuilt and we can't leave it to the hands of the greedy and the wealthy. I am for Protectionism as our jobs musn't be stolen from our loyal industrious worker's. I am for Full-Citizenship all who wish to join our illustrious nation should have the chance to do so. I am also a Pluralist as I know that faith can be a powerful force in times of great hardship.
Who is with me? Let us rebuild Chile into a glorious and fair republic!
 
Welcome Dr. Fuentes. I am glad to see the middle class is growing in Chile and that not only aristocrats, generals and union-leaders have a say in chilean politics.
 
I would like to announce that my policies for economy will be Planned Economy, because we cannot trust capitalists to expand our economy, Protectionism as we cannot rely to buy all our goods from foreign nations, Atheism as religion distracts us too much from the oppression of the masses, Full Citizenship as everyone is equal in a true Communist nation and should not be judged by race or nationality and Pro Military as we must defend ourselves against imperialist and capitalist nations. Let us build Chile into a true Socialist state!

Xavier Kvaratskhelia, candidate for President of Chile.
 
Suirantes said:
I would like to announce that my policies for economy will be Planned Economy, because we cannot trust capitalists to expand our economy, Protectionism as we cannot rely to buy all our goods from foreign nations, Atheism as religion distracts us too much from the oppression of the masses, Full Citizenship as everyone is equal in a true Communist nation and should not be judged by race or nationality and Pro Military as we must defend ourselves against imperialist and capitalist nations. Let us build Chile into a true Socialist state!

Xavier Kvaratskhelia, candidate for President of Chile.
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Chile does not produce any tea or coffee. Would you begrudge chileans their tea and coffee, because of this simple fact that is beyond their control?
 
I would say that the Republicanos are the moderate party, and at least lukewarm towards laissez-faire, considering that I am a devout liberal, and Senor Rivera is a more centrist conservative, as opposed to the diehard revanchist Nationales.

As for the parties being free-market or anti-free-market, the liberals have always supported laissez-faire, with the Partido Liberal, Partido Radical, Nuevos Partido Liberal, and the Partido Republican under my father and Cortez supporting it. Under Romano, Gogolow, and Rivera, we had interventionism, and during the Empire, we had state capitalism. The Fascist Republic is odd, due to it being more or less state-capitalist, while having a free-marketer as Treasury Minister.

So judging for the past, the parties will probably be like this:

Liberal: Laissez-faire, Free trade, Pro/Anti-Military, Pluralist/Secularist
Republican: Laissez-faire/Interventionist, Free Trade, Pro/Anti-Military, Pluralist/Secularist
National: Interventionist/State Capitalist, Protectionist, Jingo/Pro-military, Moralist
FNT: Interventionist/State Capitalist, Protectionist, Anti-Military, Secularist
Comunista: Planned Economy, Protectionist, Jingoist/Pacifist (depending on how Stalinistic it may become), Atheist
 
These are my policies that I will implement if I am elected president:
Interventionism: The State need to be able to intervene in the market, but should not try to completely control it. Both workers and industrialists benefit from the State being an active player in supporting our industry.
Free Trade: Tariffs could help protecting our jobs, but our industry need access to foreign goods. Without that access even more jobs could be in danger.
Secularist: We must strive for a progressive and tolerant secular society.
Full Citizenship: When Chile expanded many people who weren't Chileans before suddenly became part of our nation. All people of Chile must have equal rights as citizens of Chile.
Anti- Military: As a general this will probably come as a shock, but the truth is our army became too powerful. That's why a military junta could take power in the first place. It's time to limit our army, we can't allow it to become a threat to our nation again.
 
The government should not control the economy, it is true, but without the ability to build factories many chileans will still be left without work on the streets.
 
((At present, only the FNT and the Liberales have enough statements of support to field a candidate for the Presidency.))

Emergency Economic Stability Act:
Yes: 5
No: 2
Abstain:

Presidential Candidates:
Liberales:
Carlos Andonie III ((rudders10))

Republicanos:
Juan Rivera ((atomicsoda))

FNT:
Francisco Villa ((LeeroyJenkins))
Jesus Gonzales ((yourworstnightm))
David Bevan ((WelshDude))

Comunista:
Xavier Kvaratskhelia ((Suirantes))

Roll Call:
Liberales: 5
Republicanos: 2
FNT: 4
Comunistas: 2
Frente Nacional: 2

Agitators:
(None)

EDIT: I know there are more than 13 people in this thread, so I'm going to extend the poll and close it at 10 AM tomorrow, rather than twenty minutes from now today. As a reminder, disenfranchised people can still declare in the roll call vote. It's critical that I get everyone into the roll call so I know whether the parties meet the four-member minimum to exist.
 
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cavebear3000 said:
((did you get me as a Liberale?))
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I missed someone as a Liberale, I think it was Seek, who didn't bold his vote.

OOC statements are still disallowed in the thread. You should PM me if you have any questions.

And lastly, if you don't bold your declaration, you risk my missing it.
 
Riccardo93 said:
I would say that the Republicanos are the moderate party, and at least lukewarm towards laissez-faire, considering that I am a devout liberal, and Senor Rivera is a more centrist conservative, as opposed to the diehard revanchist Nationales.
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As for the parties being free-market or anti-free-market, the liberals have always supported laissez-faire, with the Partido Liberal, Partido Radical, Nuevos Partido Liberal, and the Partido Republican under my father and Cortez supporting it. Under Romano, Gogolow, and Rivera, we had interventionism, and during the Empire, we had state capitalism. The Fascist Republic is odd, due to it being more or less state-capitalist, while having a free-marketer as Treasury Minister.

So judging for the past, the parties will probably be like this:

Liberal: Laissez-faire, Free trade, Pro/Anti-Military, Pluralist/Secularist
Republican: Laissez-faire/Interventionist, Free Trade, Pro/Anti-Military, Pluralist/Secularist
National: Interventionist/State Capitalist, Protectionist, Jingo/Pro-military, Moralist
FNT: Interventionist/State Capitalist, Protectionist, Anti-Military, Secularist
Comunista: Planned Economy, Protectionist, Jingoist/Pacifist (depending on how Stalinistic it may become), Atheist
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The Republicanos and the Liberales have the same policies. Have you considered merging the party? A name like Democrat Party might do the trick. I always thought the Republicanos were conservatives, but maybe its easier to have multiple candidates but a solid, united party than two parties that compete between each other AND also against the FNT.
 
thekinguter said:
The Republicanos and the Liberales have the same policies. Have you considered merging the party? A name like Democrat Party might do the trick. I always thought the Republicanos were conservatives, but maybe its easier to have multiple candidates but a solid, united party than two parties that compete between each other AND also against the FNT.
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"I agree. A united base that includes Republicano and Liberal voters, including Senor Rivera, who remains as the last of the powerful Republicano members, we can create a united front against the FNT."

~ Daniel Palomino
 
MastahCheef117 said:
"I agree. A united base that includes Republicano and Liberal voters, including Senor Rivera, who remains as the last of the powerful Republicano members, we can create a united front against the FNT."

~ Daniel Palomino
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And it would also allow the Frente Nacional to become the conservative party, rather than just another extremist party, and enter a coalition with the new party

It would be a wise choice.
 
It is nighttime in Santiago, and the streets grow quiet and peaceful. A silent band clothed in black cautiously climb their way up to the roof of the Congreso and are temporarily taken by the tranquil beauty of the usually bustling city. they then proceed to unfurl a large golden banner over the entire front of the Congreso. The banner hangs mere inches from the ground but it is too dark to make out what the banner reads. The hooded men, both fearful of being caught and eager to gather their night's earnings, sink quietly back into the night....


Daylight floods the streets and crowds of Chileans, are eager to see the awesome banner for themselves...

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Join Los Democratas Liberales today!


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