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Hmm, let's see. Austro-Prussian war, where the Austrians reneged on a previously made agreement and declared war. Franco-Prussian war, where, once again, the French declared war, and...what would the third one be? We Germans are not aggressors, but we will fight aggressively to defend the Fatherland.
The Austro-Prussian War was initiated by Austria, was it? That would explain why Prussia rendered the Gastein Convention null and invaded Austrian-held Holstein.

Not to mention the fact that the French declared war on Prussia in response to increasingly hostile Prussian political intrigue, including the nomination of Prince Leopold to the Spanish throne and the malicious editing of the Bad Ems telegram.


Correct. The Iron Fist are preferable to the Syndicalists, yet the Iron Fist are hardly a good candidate to govern Germany.
And thus the snake reveals itself.

That you would find militaristic Fascists preferable to a party dedicated to the true people of Germany speaks volumes.

The farmer will be cheated on his wares without a merchant's business sense.
The farmer shall be able to sustain himself and his family without the merchant undercutting him.

The worker will not know what to do without a manager's direction.
The worker is not an invalid; he does not need a pompous petty bureacrat to instruct him.

Every son and daughter of the Fatherland is valuable.
Yet some are more valuable than others.

Without their slave workforce to order about, let us see how "valuable" the bourgeosie are.

My dear sir, are you describing the French? Try reading up on Concepts of Annhilation, it will do you good. German warfare has always been based on maneuver and firepower, not manpower.
It would seem my colleague has been in a comatose state since the 1870s.

This would no doubt explain his archaic view of the world.

The Weltkrieg was not won through cavalry charges and glorious advances; it was a long, bloody period of attrition where thousands of workers died so that their capitalist masters could protect their imperial interests.

German people. Listen to this drivel. He would turn us into nothing better then ants! Every person identical, without an independent thought or action. And I suppose that the Bolsheviks would be the queen ant?
And what, pray tell, do we have now?

Is the Kaiser not our queen ant, surrounded by her snivelling sycophants who pander her while the workers toil endlessly to feed her?

An ant colony is no more equal than the so-called democratic society we live in now.

We do not advocate one thought or one mind; only one people.

I should hope you realize that were it not for Bismark, Germany would not exist.
Germany does not exist.

Bismarck did not unify the German states; he annexed them into his Prussian empire.

Until we are united with our Austrian brethren, there is no Gross Deutschland.

We wouldn't have the luxury of this conversation were it not for the Iron Chancellor, but you want to toss him under the tank.
If the 'Iron Chancellor' was still alive, we would not be having this conversation, as he would have no doubt once again prohibited any ideology that challenged his empire.

Where are you getting moldy bread from? This is gross exaggeration, no pun intended.
You are aware of the literary device known as an analogy, correct?

So your argument is as follows...

Syndicalist: There's no health care! We will solve that!!
German: Umm...we've had that, and more, since Bismark.
Syndicalist: There's no uber health care! We will solve that!!
Wanton strawman arguments. I have argued that the present healthcare system is not sufficient.

It's called an 'economy'. And it works alot better and fairer than the evil you're making it out to be.
That will explain why under 10% of the population controls a majority of the wealth.

Of course, the capitalist - riding on the affluence and influence of his father - will see nothing wrong with the system that loads him with wine and women while the workers exhaust themselves in hard physical labour so that they may be able to afford a loaf of bread.

Ok. So how will you manage order? Large scale industries, research, projects, chain of command. If you look at nature, herds, groups, colonies, etc, all have a hierarchy to them. That's because it's what works best for them.

Humans, as social creatures, are all interconnected and require an order.
The sheer fact that humans are all interconnected proves that we do not require authority figures.

The collective shall manage society.

There wasn't an 'only workers fought' war. Universal mass conscription means just that: everyone. Isn't that a term you love?
And who were the ones who were predominantly deposited in the trenches to be slaughtered by machine gun fire, while the upper classes downed champagne in their occupied French villas?

The workers.

You declare generals incompetent, but want to put people who have never held order over another in command of divisions?
Is it not fair to allow the soldiers to at least have some knowledge and influence in the conflicts that will inevitably involve their deaths?

If the people are the generals, we shall no longer be faced with the Weltkrieg scenario, where Generals would freely throw legion after legion against the enemy with no aim of conserving numbers and minimising deaths.


There is a natural order and place for people. Some people are better at some tasks than others, and it is natural that they fill those roles. These roles receive designations and benefits to provide extra motivation for people to achieve them.
Ah, so what happened to the "fair and equal" society you so prescribed?

What happened to humans being "interconnected" social creatures?

By your own admission, we do not live in an equal society - only a Feudalist hierarchy.

Just try having everyone be a manager. Nothing will be accomplished. They are all of equal rank, so none can affect a course of action. There are no consequences for poor performance, as they cannot be fired from a position that doesn't exist!
If they manage poorly, they shall not be able to sustain themselves and their families.

They have a vested interest in ensuring that the management is effective and efficient.
 
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I shall join the Eisenfaustsamthandschuharbeitersozialnationalherrlichkeit Partei.
Punkt.

And vote them with all my might. :cool:

Do I get any rewards for being a week late?
Too late to have a own party. :(

Für Eisenfäüstchen! :cool:
 
Welcome, brother!

Germany stands upon a precipice. It seemed that the Right had the election sewn up, but now not only poisonous Liberals, but even SOCIALISTS are gaining in numbers!

But I say not one step back! The line must be drawn here!

This far, no further!

A day may come when the courage of Germans fails. When we forsake our Kaiser and break all bonds of allegiance.

But it is not this day.

An hour of wolves and socialism when the age of Germany comes crashing down.

BUT IT IS NOT THIS DAY! This day, we fight! And by all you hold dear in this good Earth, I bid you STAND! MEN! OF THE RIGHT!
 
Aragorn? I'm not sure I know what you mean.
 
I'M NOT SURE I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN.

AS IT'S 1936.

Duh :p
 
And thus the snake reveals itself.

That you would find militaristic Fascists preferable to a party dedicated to the true people of Germany speaks volumes.

Better militarists than Bolsheviks. Not to be too cruel, but as the old adage 'lesser of two evils goes...'. At least they aren't seeking to overturn and outright destroy that which makes Germany Germany.

The farmer shall be able to sustain himself and his family without the merchant undercutting him.

On a subsistence level, yes. Barely above poverty, yes. Without an access to markets to sell his surplus wares, he will have little money to spend on other necessities and wants. It's a shame that you want to put us back in the medieval era.

Germany does not exist.

I'm going to borrow one of your phrases. It would seem my colleague has been in a comatose state since the 1870s. Get a map, look at central Europe. What's there? Oh, right, Germany.

Bismarck did not unify the German states; he annexed them into his Prussian empire.

More goalshifting.

Bolsheviks: There is no Germany!!! We will bring you Germany!!!
German: Um, yes there is, look at a map.
Bolsheviks: There is no true Germany!!! We will bring you true Germany!!!

Until we are united with our Austrian brethren, there is no Gross Deutschland.

If the 'Iron Chancellor' was still alive, we would not be having this conversation, as he would have no doubt once again prohibited any ideology that challenged his empire.

Right. Which is exactly why he was a driving force behind the creation of our dear Reichstag. Wait! Let me guess what you'll say next. 'That's not the true Reichstag!!! Only the Bolsheviks will bring you the true Reichstag!!!

You are aware of the literary device known as an analogy, correct?

You are aware that your analogy was pretty much worthless, correct?

Wanton strawman arguments. I have argued that the present healthcare system is not sufficient.

It's a strawman only if it takes a position and blows it our of proportion. Your first argument was that there was no healthcare. Your current is that it isn't good enough. It's not a strawman if it's the truth.

That will explain why under 10% of the population controls a majority of the wealth.

And you are getting your information from where? The Syndicalist Handbook?

Of course, the capitalist - riding on the affluence and influence of his father - will see nothing wrong with the system that loads him with wine and women while the workers exhaust themselves in hard physical labour so that they may be able to afford a loaf of bread.

I'm going to use one of your lines. Wanton strawman argument.


The sheer fact that humans are all interconnected proves that we do not require authority figures.

No, it doesn't prove that.

The collective shall manage society.

Putting people with no experience in management capacity is a bad idea that only works in Utopian novels. Again, how are you going to manage incentive and discipline? No authority means no one is required to follow a command. If everyone holds all ranks because no designated ranks exist, then no one is motivated to do their utmost cause they cannot be removed from a position that they hold eternally.

Furthermore, if you go as far as to prohibit them from that task, you are then creating a class divide between people that are and aren't allowed to do things. Your entire system falls apart the moment you have to enforce it!

And who were the ones who were predominantly deposited in the trenches to be slaughtered by machine gun fire, while the upper classes downed champagne in their occupied French villas?

The workers.

And your facts are from where?

Is it not fair to allow the soldiers to at least have some knowledge and influence in the conflicts that will inevitably involve their deaths?

Coincidentally, that is how the current military rank system is set up. Soldiers have a say provided they follow their chain of command. Let me guess, this isn't the 'true' system, which only the Bolsheviks can deliver.

If the people are the generals, we shall no longer be faced with the Weltkrieg scenario, where Generals would freely throw legion after legion against the enemy with no aim of conserving numbers and minimising deaths.

Wait....this sounds familiar. If I go to your party platform, I find this...

"Military Doctrine
The people will be at the for front of the Revolution, we have no need for petty machines. The people will be what brings the Revolution and the people will be who brings the new age of Far Leftist Freedom. Mass Conscription Acts will be put in place so everyone will have a chance to fight against the Capitalist and Authoritarian demons."

The Weltkrieg tactics that you so despise and lambaste are the exact same tactics your party follows!!! The irony!!! Legion after legion of workers being mowed down? That is exactly what your party platform calls for!

And you say that we should rot for thinking the Iron Fist is better than you? At least they have a modern military platform, something of respect. At least their tactics aren't rooted in the 1700's, like your Bolsheviks.

Ah, so what happened to the "fair and equal" society you so prescribed?

What happened to humans being "interconnected" social creatures?

By your own admission, we do not live in an equal society - only a Feudalist hierarchy.

Again, you are making things out to be worse than what they are. You'd only be satisfied with a complete overturning of social and political order. Anything less than that is utter evil to you.

They have a vested interest in ensuring that the management is effective and efficient.

Vested interest only goes so far. You need motivation, otherwise you won't get good results. Why do we have money? Cause it's a motivator. People work to get paid so they can buy needs and wants, and work harder to increase their pay.

If your system is so flawless, where such kinds of things aren't needed, it would be in existence already, before the Weltkreig. But it's not, and there's a reason for that. It does not work.
 
These arguments just prove that the Syndicalist / Socialist system will never work! Only the PCP will bring Germany's future to a good end. We will deliver Germany from peril into peace and prosperity. As already pointed out, as soon as the Syndicalist system will be implemented the whole country will fall apart. reduced standard of living, chaos and a step back into the past (which will be at least 300 years going back in time) to dreams that never will exist....only poverty, disease and war will prevail when you vote Syndicalist


VOTE PCP FOR GERMANY'S FUTURE!!! WE BRING YOU WEALTH INSTEAD OF POVERTY!!!
 
I've been meaning to give this a long look, and I have!

I shall join the Prussian Conservative Party! :cool:
 
I've been meaning to give this a long look, and I have!

I shall join the Prussian Conservative Party! :cool:

Congratulations volksmarschall! You have made the right choice for the Kaiserreich! (see my sig for details, it's at the end of the little poem thing)

The Austro-Prussian War was initiated by Austria, was it? That would explain why Prussia rendered the Gastein Convention null and invaded Austrian-held Holstein.

Not to mention the fact that the French declared war on Prussia in response to increasingly hostile Prussian political intrigue, including the nomination of Prince Leopold to the Spanish throne and the malicious editing of the Bad Ems telegram.

I find it interesting how the Syndicalist glosses over exactly which third war 'Prussian aggression' started.


People of Germany! You have heard the extremists! You know their policies! Now, think upon this. Medicine cures a man! But what would too much medicine do? It would kill them as dead as the disease!

Moderation is always the best choice. The extremists call this weakness. Would they call carefully measuring out a small dose of medicine to a patient 'weakness'? I suppose, with the low quality of doctors the Syndicalists produce, one cannot fault them for this.

Germany needs to stay the path of greatness! The Conservatives made Germany great, and the Conservatives will keep Germany great! God is with us!
 
Moderation is always the best choice.

This is why the good german people should vote for the centrists ;)
It's true that the Conservatives made great things for Germany...in the past.
It's time for our country to embrace the light of liberalism and to build a prosperous future for the next generations.
For a strong, free and modern Germany vote LCP!
 
This is why the good german people should vote for the centrists ;)
It's true that the Conservatives made great things for Germany...in the past.
It's time for our country to embrace the light of liberalism and to build a prosperous future for the next generations.
For a strong, free and modern Germany vote LCP!

The Centrists and Right-Wing need to combine to stop the nation falling to the Anarco-Bolsheviks, Communists, Socialists, and the LEFT in particular. We have one common goal: to stop the spread of Socialism (in all forms) in general. We shouldn't bicker amongst ourselves, but unite under one common goal: to stop the spread of the LEFT, and move forward as we all see fit.

However, beware of a major Centrist victory for when this happens, the gateways open and the water floods ever more to the Left. Socialism shall be born out of "liberalism," "third-way," and "centrism."
 
The Centrists and Right-Wing need to combine to stop the nation falling to the Anarco-Bolsheviks, Communists, Socialists, and the LEFT in particular. We have one common goal: to stop the spread of Socialism (in all forms) in general. We shouldn't bicker amongst ourselves, but unite under one common goal: to stop the spread of the LEFT, and move forward as we all see fit.

However, beware of a major Centrist victory for when this happens, the gateways open and the water floods ever more to the Left. Socialism shall be born out of "liberalism," "third-way," and "centrism."

Rubbish! The syndicalists have only one, small and disenfranchised party that does not even represent the majority of the german workers! The Undemocratic Right has three or more!
 
Rubbish! The syndicalists have only one, small and disenfranchised party that does not even represent the majority of the german workers! The Undemocratic Right has three or more!

Alexists and Haxists don't make three or more. DNVP and PCP are aligned in support of the Kaiserreich, with a democratic Reichstag that has a strong voice in the affairs of the Fatherland. Yes, we support the Kaiser, but not as a tyrant.
 
Alexists and Haxists don't make three or more. DNVP and PCP are aligned in support of the Kaiserreich, with a democratic Reichstag that has a strong voice in the affairs of the Fatherland. Yes, we support the Kaiser, but not as a tyrant.

Indeed, we support his majesty, as the legitimate and constitutional ruler of our great democracy.
 
Alexists and Haxists don't make three or more. DNVP and PCP are aligned in support of the Kaiserreich, with a democratic Reichstag that has a strong voice in the affairs of the Fatherland. Yes, we support the Kaiser, but not as a tyrant.

The DNVP and PCP both supports the rule of a tyrannical and undemocratic ruler in the service of feudal aristocracies! In order to be truly democratic they would have to at least advocate the reduction of the Kaiser to a ceremonial position only. (like we and the liberals do) rather than continuing to support the unearned and illogical vesting of power into one man solely because of his birth!
 
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