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Why would you consider it wrong to kill a obnoxious bloodthirsty tyrant? Only fair.
He has shown his claws and teeth. It is for the best of everyone to shoot him.
The end justifies the means. My cause is just.
Trotsky must die. Ice axe sounds perfect...

In what sense is he a tyrant? For purging a section of the party? If a Capitalist faction managed to worm it's way into the People's Party, should it too not be removed forcefully? Because the True Germans were similar - utterly against everything the revolution stands for.
 
Very scary. Where did this "Enewald is a cannibal" thing come from anyway?:confused:

Tommy invented the rumour when he added Enewald as a character in the AAR.
 
This would likely be disastrous, but considering Trotsky's disregard for the will of the assembly and the lack of consensus on the CC, if the war turns downhill I wouldn't be surprised if someone goes to the capitalists to make a separate peace. Of Course this would take someone who is willing to accept horrible risk, political suicide and likely expulsion from the republic in the aftermath, simply to save the revolution in peril.

Who might it be?

Another potential disaster, as exhaustion with the war sets in armed minorities ally with the True Germans among the armed forces and disillusioned rightists to topple the government.

Why did Trotsky expel the TG and create discord right before a war when we need unity most?
 
I'm aware they aren't actually Nazi's, but their xenophobia and hyper-nationalism does make the general idea of them somewhat comparable.

If I would count all nationalist groups in the world which are xenophobic and hyper-nationalist I get a very long list. What combines them all is that they may be wrong but they are not comparable to Nazis!
This is a common mistake due to the sheer destruction Hitler has caused but it still is academically speaking a grave mistake. I could go into a long rant why but I will steal wiser words from someone else:

It will be seen that, as used, the word ‘Fascism’ is almost entirely meaningless. In conversation, of course, it is used even more wildly than in print. I have heard it applied to farmers, shopkeepers, Social Credit, corporal punishment, fox-hunting, bull-fighting, the 1922 Committee, the 1941 Committee, Kipling, Gandhi, Chiang Kai-Shek, homosexuality, Priestley's broadcasts, Youth Hostels, astrology, women, dogs and I do not know what else.

- George Orwell
 
Supressing a faction will not destroy it: all it will do is drive it underground, bury it, and allow it to grow away from prying eyes.

If our republic is a true democracy, then those who are wrong will be silenced by elections, not by aggrevation. If these people are wrong, if they are undemocratic, if they are reactionary, if they are capitalists, then the elections shall make sure they do not take power. The people and the Party will vote for what they know and believe is right.
 
This would likely be disastrous, but considering Trotsky's disregard for the will of the assembly and the lack of consensus on the CC, if the war turns downhill I wouldn't be surprised if someone goes to the capitalists to make a separate peace. Of Course this would take someone who is willing to accept horrible risk, political suicide and likely expulsion from the republic in the aftermath, simply to save the revolution in peril.

Who might it be?

Another potential disaster, as exhaustion with the war sets in armed minorities ally with the True Germans among the armed forces and disillusioned rightists to topple the government.

Why did Trotsky expel the TG and create discord right before a war when we need unity most?

I say that it should be Comrade Bob! That damned defeatist closet capitalist! ((Tommy, if I just stepped some sort of boundary, inform me immediately)).

Anyway, I sort of want to see the collapse of the almighty VSVR. Almost a la Soviet Union, looked so powerful a few years before, but suddenly crashed as the rotten parts of the system gave way.
 
Why do we even have Lux and M-L as seperate parties?
If a small the small anarchists need to be divided, those two are too close to each other to be kept as separate parties. Unfair I say.
Lux is having no independent aims, they follow the lead of the M-L always!

we need a damn constitution. Factions should not be banned nor discriminated. Free speech is sacred.
No one wants tyranny!

Since you're an anarchist you really shouldn't want a constitution. Constitution is bound to the Tyrannic state and will legitimize it. We Marxists recognize the same problem. The Socialist State is only a temporary measure to eliminate the Class Society and spread the revolution. When that's done the State has to be abolished. A Constitution would mean we'd never get rid of it.
 
This is exactly why I changed my vote from Luxemburgists to Anarchists.

First, let me make it clear that I do not support anarchy. While it is an admirable goal, I do not believe that it would actually work. Nor do I support the religious policies of the Anarchists, as I feel they would damage, or at least not benefit the republic.

Far more important than these, though, is stopping the Leninists as soon as possible. Trotsky has shown his true face. He is an oppressor, seeking to banish all opponents and ignoring the wishes of the people, as well as a warmonger. What more does one need to prove this man a tyrant in the making? Liebknecht is ignoring the policies on which the Luxemburgist faction was founded, instead preferring to support this militarist-in-disguise.

One cannot help but wonder how Liebknecht can allow these things to happen without losing support from his voters. Perhaps he has not - Perhaps his actions are the cause of the Luxemburgist dwindle. I say we stop this decay now. The Russians were not stupid, they knew that assassinating Rosa would result in a militarist surge. Would it not, then, be rational to assume that they hoped for this? Perhaps they saw, as we do now, that a militarist republic cannot sustain itself. We won the war against them, but shall we let that be our very best, shall we now crumble and die, collapsing in face of the chaos we ourselves have wrought?

No. We must fight the true fight. Not the one that is fought with guns and artillery, but the one fought with ink and arguments. We must show Trotsky is a betrayer to the true socialist idea, and how Liebknecht has long since abandoned the ideas of Luxemburg. We must end this war as quickly as possible, and then we must start the real battle.
 
The final stages of communism and anarchy are the same buddy.
 
Enewald needs to ride back from Finland and restore order in Cologne.


Bismark's explosion as "counter-revolutionary" is uncalled for. Splitting the republic into different administrative sections is something that other Republics have done for decades, and has traditionally been encouraged by Marxists and Luxembourgists (referring to the post-Revolution affairs in the former Spanish and Dutch empires). Perhaps Trotsky should exile his own faction, then. If he is even a Marxist-Leninist. He came to power using nothing but brute force. The man has not a political bone in his body, and obviously this is a military coup. His support from the people can be likened to Julius Caesar's popularity with the Roman plebs after that Imperialist's great conquests. And as in those times, the Imperialist military dictator must be stopped before he brings an end to our Republic.
 
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Enewald needs to ride back from Finland and restore order in Cologne.

Enewald's probably off somewhere eating some lettuce. Some lettuce that looks suspiciously like babies .....

As for your Caesar point. That peaked my interest mainly because yesterday I wrote an essay defending him from a socialist point of view. The old regime must die. :cool:

I've now gone through one year of the Great War. Battles still rage from Russia to France and from Central Africa to the North Sea.

However the death toll is as incredible as it is horrific.
 
However the death toll is as incredible as it is horrific.

As I expected. This war has to be stopped. But it cannot be stopped by the sword. War against war makes no sense. It is the pen that is mightier than the sword. However till now the pen has been completely absent in the VSVR. It is a land void of art and therefore its current situation was inevitable. Hereby (a bigger and more official proclamation will hopefully soon follow if I write and can get one of the papers to publish it) I therefore proclaim the artistic revolution through a little anti-war gem that I never can quite get out of my mind. It is by Louis Golding who is far to unknown for his mad skill.

This poem will hit you hard comrades as it shows clearly the connection between our war and the their war: This all I will say to ruin it, it can speak better for itself:

THE NEW TRADE

IN the market-places they have made

A dolorous new trade.
Now you will see in the fierce naphtha-light,

Piled hideously to sight,
Dead limbs of men bronzed in the over-seas,

Bomb-wrenched from elbows and knees ;
Torn feet, that would, unwearied by harsh

loads,

Have tramped steep moorland roads ;
Torn hands that would have moulded ex-
quisitely

Rare things for God to see.
And there are eyes there blue like blue

doves' wings,

Black like the Libyan kings,
Grey as before-dawn rivers, willow-stirred,

Brown as a singing-bird ;
But all stare from the dark into the dark,

Reproachful, tense, and stark.
Eyes heaped on trays and in broad baskets

there,

Feet, hands, and ropes of hair.
In the market-places . . . and women buy . . .
. . . Naphtha glares . . . hawkers cry . . .
Fat men rub hands. . . .

O God, O just God, send
Plague, lightnings . . .

Make an end !

- Louis Golding, Sorrows of War
 
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