Werewolf LXXVI: Schools Out - Page 44

von Loch Ness · 19-11-2009, 06:56

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Originally Posted by the_hdk

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What marty did was certainly within the rules of the game. Anyone can sell his own side if he thinks it will benefit him personally, as did marty. Seriously, you were on the receiving end of the stick this time, and that's why you're pissed. Get over it, it clearly wasn't personal, and it certainly wasn't cheating.

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Originally Posted by the_hdk

Edit: anyone who sells out his own side for no real reason won't get a spot in games I host.

That just means you shouldn't get to host any games

Rysz · 19-11-2009, 07:36

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Originally Posted by Lemeard

Didn't Rysz say he was going there? Maybe he kidnapped Jens?

No, I would have liked to meet him on the airport though, but he didn't say he would come.

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Originally Posted by von Loch Ness

Even if Marty was a baddie apprentice, it is perfectly legitimate for him to out his master.
This game is not supposed to be played as a team. Everyone tries to maximize their own chances of winning. Marty thought that by outing his master, he could gain some credibility, while also gaining his role. That's definitely legitimate, and in some circumstances it might not be a bad move.

True. This is a bastardly evil game sometimes, and I have seen worse examples of backstabbing. Although I can surely understand that hdk would be very annoyed at this. So would I, but then again, it's the game

OrangeYoshi · 19-11-2009, 07:52

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Originally Posted by Rysz

No, I would have liked to meet him on the airport though, but he didn't say he would come.

True. This is a bastardly evil game sometimes, and I have seen worse examples of backstabbing. Although I can surely understand that hdk would be very annoyed at this. So would I, but then again, it's the game

Are you getting in the next big game?

Edit: LOL, nevermind.

EUROO7 · 19-11-2009, 07:54

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Originally Posted by OrangeYoshi

Are you getting in the next big game?

Edit: LOL, nevermind.

This is why you fail.

The Arch Mede · 19-11-2009, 13:04

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Originally Posted by EUROO7

I've seen seer stealing from priest in the first scan, I believe. It was not pretty for the baddies.

This is another reason I don't like it. The fewer games which are decided by this sort of luck with the GM die rolls, the better. Some roles or actions are too powerful not to be blurred in some way, but I prefer a different solution to die rolls wherever possible.

As an example: the apprentice could put in a "betray master" order once in the game. This order would mean that the apprentice would not take on the master's role if the master died while the order was active, and they would become an unclaimed apprentice instead. Alternatively you could have some other role able to interfere with the succession. e.g. a lover visiting the apprentice would stop the apprentice succeeding to the master's role if the master died while the apprentice was otherwise occupied with the lover.

marty99 · 19-11-2009, 18:10

The fact is, I beleived the-hdk was going to die either way, as Kriszo would have announced it, so I may as well have done it myself to keep myself out of suspicion

@TAM: I considered getting Kriszo to scan me that night, and to out the-hdk the next day, changing sides twice in two days, as there was nothing against it in the rules, but I think its an exploit, and should be changed, its so easy theoretically to infiltrate either side and win the game easily with this rule

Hax · 20-11-2009, 17:03

Yey my first WW win

But I think i where the last person who got lynched

But no this not a win, GM FAIL

I hope jens is alright

jonlucero · 20-11-2009, 17:20

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Originally Posted by Hax

Yey my first WW win

But I think i where the last person who got lynched

But no this not a win, GM FAIL

I hope jens is alright

this is considered a win for those surviving?

I thought this was considered as "abandoned"

i.e.,

My WW games results:
Win: 0
Lose: 0
Lynched: 0
whatever: 0
Abandoned: 1

the_hdk · 20-11-2009, 18:01

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Originally Posted by jonlucero

this is considered a win for those surviving?

I thought this was considered as "abandoned"

i.e.,

My WW games results:
Win: 0
Lose: 0
Lynched: 0
whatever: 0
Abandoned: 1

game is unsolved

Slinky · 20-11-2009, 18:09

For now I will count this game as classification pending and I will wait a bit to see if we will hear something from Jensthemens before writing it as abandoned.

joebthegreat · 20-11-2009, 18:21

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Originally Posted by the_hdk

game is unsolved

20 years down the road a young aspiring detective will jump on the case and discover what really happened here.

We must all swear an oath of silence, and promise to kill any who would seek to uncover our secret. I don't care how young or aspiring that detective is, this will remain hidden!

White Daimon · 20-11-2009, 18:39

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Originally Posted by joebthegreat

20 years down the road a young aspiring detective will jump on the case and discover what really happened here.

We must all swear an oath of silence, and promise to kill any who would seek to uncover our secret. I don't care how young or aspiring that detective is, this will remain hidden!

I recommend that everybody delete all thier post in this thread. We must obfuscate his path to clarity!

jonti-h · 20-11-2009, 18:41

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Originally Posted by White Daimon

We must obfuscate his path to clarity!

That's what she said.

jonlucero · 21-11-2009, 01:21

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Originally Posted by White Daimon

I recommend that everybody delete all thier post in this thread. We must obfuscate his path to clarity!

obfuscate!

OrangeYoshi · 21-11-2009, 02:22

I'll do my part by simply not including this in my sig, as well as not allowing it in my player history.

Yakman · 21-11-2009, 02:40

It should just be considered Abandoned. It's likely to happen again, and should be categorized as such.

19-11-2009, 18:10	#866
marty99 Second Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 191	The fact is, I beleived the-hdk was going to die either way, as Kriszo would have announced it, so I may as well have done it myself to keep myself out of suspicion @TAM: I considered getting Kriszo to scan me that night, and to out the-hdk the next day, changing sides twice in two days, as there was nothing against it in the rules, but I think its an exploit, and should be changed, its so easy theoretically to infiltrate either side and win the game easily with this rule __________________ Hi

20-11-2009, 17:03	#867
Hax General Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Behind a computer Posts: 2,001	Yey my first WW win But I think i where the last person who got lynched But no this not a win, GM FAIL I hope jens is alright __________________ Yugoslav Wars -------------------------------------------------------- Back to War - A Bosnian MDS AAR - On Going -------------------------------------------------------- My Ink Well " Forget your problems, tomorrow comes new "

20-11-2009, 18:09	#870
Slinky Master of the Stairs Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 616	For now I will count this game as classification pending and I will wait a bit to see if we will hear something from Jensthemens before writing it as abandoned. __________________ ........................................ ..................................................................... ............... ................................................................................................................ ....................................... Blundering through space ........................................ .................................................. ......a Lost Empire Immortals AAR.................................................. .....* ......................................... .......................................... ................................................................ ..................................*

21-11-2009, 02:22	#875
OrangeYoshi FM of the Mushroom Korps Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In your computer screen Posts: 3,961 Blog Entries: 17	I'll do my part by simply not including this in my sig, as well as not allowing it in my player history. __________________ Current WW Game: Werewolf LXXVII : Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea WW Games Played: LXXV, LXXIV, LXXIII, LXXII, LXXI, LXX, LXVIII, LXVII, LXVI lll Complete Player History I reject your reality and substitute my own. WW Results: Goodie Wins: 1 \| Baddie Wins: 0 l Survived but lost: 0 \| Lynched: 2 \| Eaten: 6 l Roles: Villager: 1 \| Wolf: 2 \| Seer: 1 l Priest: 1 l Hunter: 1 \| Changeling: 1 l Cultist: 1 l Highlight my sig whenever you see it. You never know what you'll see..I got bashed by Marty! OrangeYoshi

21-11-2009, 02:40	#876
Yakman Play Like A Champion Today Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 4,111	It should just be considered Abandoned. It's likely to happen again, and should be categorized as such. __________________ "Again again I say to you, Yakman* speaketh the truth.* -Petrarca Art is a lie which makes us realize the truth -- Pablo Picasso ++ Member of the Christian Paradox Players' Club ++ -1000, History-Forum Banned january 5, 2006 OT-Forum Banned may 8, 2007 God has given you one face, and you make yourself another -- William Shakespeare