I can put a map up in a few minutes, but look at your stats in the page I posted above. You've got inflation, like 15 WE, lost provinces, 2k manpower, etc.
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1691
1695
1723
1738
Byzantium - OrangeYoshi
France - Blackmist
Netherlands - Alteran
Normandy - Kuipy
Tver - Maestro Jedi
Timurid Empire - Zaldar
Malacca - Ccbasin
And here is a reason why the war turned into a stalemate....
1695
1723
1738
Byzantium - OrangeYoshi
France - Blackmist
Netherlands - Alteran
Normandy - Kuipy
Tver - Maestro Jedi
Timurid Empire - Zaldar
Malacca - Ccbasin
And here is a reason why the war turned into a stalemate....
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Theodorus III
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In the winter of 1723, Emperor Theodorus was approached with a diplomatic offer from the Netherlands.
This deal said that they would prepare for the war of their lives. Both would more than double their military forces in less than 2 years, and in the spring of the 3 year, they would declare war on France.
The Emperor allowed Tver to stay out of the war for obvious reasons, and he made a non-aggression pact with the Timurid Empire.
From the beginning, the war went badly. Caught off guard by the infantry of the French, the massive cavalry armies of Byzantium were wiped out 50k at a time. Looking back, the Emperor could have fought much differently, but as it was, he left troops to siege northern Italy.
After a few years of war, attrition, and battles, all 3 countries were very weary of war. Facing revolts at home, Theodorus reluctantly agreed to a peace settlement where France handed over Judea and the lands next to them.
Soon, the Emperor will turn his sights on Granada. A deal will be worked out with Normandy where Normandy will recant their guarantee of Granada, and allow Byzantium to finish the African conquests to re-establish Justinian's Empire.
This deal said that they would prepare for the war of their lives. Both would more than double their military forces in less than 2 years, and in the spring of the 3 year, they would declare war on France.
The Emperor allowed Tver to stay out of the war for obvious reasons, and he made a non-aggression pact with the Timurid Empire.
From the beginning, the war went badly. Caught off guard by the infantry of the French, the massive cavalry armies of Byzantium were wiped out 50k at a time. Looking back, the Emperor could have fought much differently, but as it was, he left troops to siege northern Italy.
After a few years of war, attrition, and battles, all 3 countries were very weary of war. Facing revolts at home, Theodorus reluctantly agreed to a peace settlement where France handed over Judea and the lands next to them.
Soon, the Emperor will turn his sights on Granada. A deal will be worked out with Normandy where Normandy will recant their guarantee of Granada, and allow Byzantium to finish the African conquests to re-establish Justinian's Empire.
OOC: During the peace talks, I was told I had been guaranteed all of Africa. I knew about North Africa, but was I really guaranteed all of Africa except for South Africa?
Here are a couple other pics....
And a big one of a battle and showing a overview of the early war situation that I have now edited in to the above post.
Timurid Empire 1723-1738
The years of peace
For the first time in a long time, the Timurid Empire was at peace for more than a year or two. This time was taken to upgrade the infrastructures and fight the rebels that were spawning through the country.
The conquest of Baluchistan and the Japanese disaster
When the country was finally stabilized, the Khagan decided it was time to put an end to Baluchistan, a small country bordered only by the Timurid Empire and that had something the Khagan wanted eagerly : a port. What was supposed to be a quick victory for the Empire became a disaster that would cost years of instability and monetary losses for the Empire. Japan decided that Baluchistan was worth fighting a war over and quickly declared war on the Timurid Empire. The Khagan thought that they would understand after a few years of pointless battles that the only way out was white peace, but the Japanese obviously were overconfident. They first conquered the African colonies, which couldn't be defended because the tiny fleet the Empire had had already been destroyed by the Japanese. They then attempted to invade the Empire many times and got their armies destroyed each and every time. After some time, the Khagan decided it was enough and asked his generals to prepare an invasion of the Chinese lands owned by Japan. 30000 men, mostly infantry, were sent to China, and though they had early successes, they were forced to retreat when they discovered the enemy had an army of 20000 men with half of it being cavalry. Reinforcements arrived and the Timurid army advanced again, but they were discovering new Japanese armies every day. After a fierce struggle, they destroyed an army of more than 52000 men with about 15000 of it being cavalry. The Khagan thought this would lead Japan to offer peace, but he was wrong. He decided to conquer Korea too, which would, he thought, force the Japanese to surrender. After the loss of an army of 15000 men because of some unknown mysterious force of nature which made it disappear in a flash and after the repeated offer of peaces to Japan, they finally surrendered. They would only give the Empire two provinces (although rich ones).
The years of peace
For the first time in a long time, the Timurid Empire was at peace for more than a year or two. This time was taken to upgrade the infrastructures and fight the rebels that were spawning through the country.
The conquest of Baluchistan and the Japanese disaster
When the country was finally stabilized, the Khagan decided it was time to put an end to Baluchistan, a small country bordered only by the Timurid Empire and that had something the Khagan wanted eagerly : a port. What was supposed to be a quick victory for the Empire became a disaster that would cost years of instability and monetary losses for the Empire. Japan decided that Baluchistan was worth fighting a war over and quickly declared war on the Timurid Empire. The Khagan thought that they would understand after a few years of pointless battles that the only way out was white peace, but the Japanese obviously were overconfident. They first conquered the African colonies, which couldn't be defended because the tiny fleet the Empire had had already been destroyed by the Japanese. They then attempted to invade the Empire many times and got their armies destroyed each and every time. After some time, the Khagan decided it was enough and asked his generals to prepare an invasion of the Chinese lands owned by Japan. 30000 men, mostly infantry, were sent to China, and though they had early successes, they were forced to retreat when they discovered the enemy had an army of 20000 men with half of it being cavalry. Reinforcements arrived and the Timurid army advanced again, but they were discovering new Japanese armies every day. After a fierce struggle, they destroyed an army of more than 52000 men with about 15000 of it being cavalry. The Khagan thought this would lead Japan to offer peace, but he was wrong. He decided to conquer Korea too, which would, he thought, force the Japanese to surrender. After the loss of an army of 15000 men because of some unknown mysterious force of nature which made it disappear in a flash and after the repeated offer of peaces to Japan, they finally surrendered. They would only give the Empire two provinces (although rich ones).
Why haven't the Timurids and the Malaccans yet divided China?
Or why haven't they invaded India?
Or why haven't they invaded India?
Malacca is probably not strong enough, and the Timurids fear the revolts it would bring
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Malacca was in the throes of bad stability last session. We will be very active this coming session.
Talking to the Timurids is on the agenda.
We have already taken quite a lot of provinces from China but with the revolts we have and the huge army the Chinese has it's hard to take more than that. Last session we were in a struggle with Japan (who didn't want to accept any peace before I had control of about 15 provinces in northern China). As for India, we have already vassalized Rajputana (mostly to make sure nobody gets it
). The rest is for the most part already vassalized or owned by european powers. Next session should be better, especially if we are finally able to westernize.
To westernize you'll need to be next to France. None of the other countries have westernized.
I thought that you hadn't westernized yet. Am I the only major power that isn't westernized?
Dang. Even Malacca has westernized.
Here are some stats.
968,358 people died from battles in WW Half. The attackers lost 538,982 men, and the defenders lost 429,376 men.
There were 58 battles, and it lasted for 6.8 years (2078 days).
The 3rd Russian-Papal war lasted 1069 days and saw over 611 men lost per day. The attackers lost 326,201 men and the defenders lost 327,258 men.
In the 5th War of Dutch Agression, there 32,496 Dutch lives lost, and 162,315 defeder's lives lost.
The War of Tverian Revolution lasted for 60,739 days (166 years).
Here are some stats.
968,358 people died from battles in WW Half. The attackers lost 538,982 men, and the defenders lost 429,376 men.
There were 58 battles, and it lasted for 6.8 years (2078 days).
The 3rd Russian-Papal war lasted 1069 days and saw over 611 men lost per day. The attackers lost 326,201 men and the defenders lost 327,258 men.
In the 5th War of Dutch Agression, there 32,496 Dutch lives lost, and 162,315 defeder's lives lost.
The War of Tverian Revolution lasted for 60,739 days (166 years).
Westernization will give me Eastern tech group (thats what the decision says). I'm not even sure I'm going to get it before the end of the game, since a monarch with 6+ administrative value is quite rare.
Oh, Malacca Westernized about 4 times if I remember correctly. Why do you think I was at negative stab all session
I didn't know you were. I honestly couldn't give a crud what anyone outside of Italy and Germany was doing last session.Oh, Malacca Westernized about 4 times if I remember correctly. Why do you think I was at negative stab all session
I didn't know you were. I honestly couldn't give a crud what anyone outside of Italy and Germany was doing last session.
You mean, you had to watch your own war the whole time?? For shame.
Now, Malacca is poised for the great run up to Vicky. We will be very active now.
The Dutch – French War of 1726
Louis XIII
(August 31 1726 – August 30 1733)
Louis XIII
(August 31 1726 – August 30 1733)
January of 1723 Louis XIII was brought news of an alliance between its two eastern neighbours and his advisors suspected that war would soon be coming to France. Border guards were stuck on alert and the Iberian and Sicilian garrisons called north to help with the defences that had been prepared for this exact possibility. When notification from the Dutch arrived that they no longer required military access through France, followed shortly by the Greeks, the French army was in position and fully prepared.
August 31st 1726 the Dutch officially declared war on France and its vassals of Bavaria and Austria, with Byzantium joining the war shortly after. Bavaria and Austria were quickly overrun while in France the initial assaults into Italy were repulsed at a high cost in lives on both sides. Once the two German states were under control of the Netherlands though the French defences in Northern Italy proved to be too thin and were overrun.
In Northern France the Dutch pushed into Flanders and Lorraine attempting to smash the French armies. Losses were again high on both sides but the initial successes went to the Dutch and it became obvious that if the French armies did not concentrate their defence on one area all of France would be overrun. The decision was made to pull all troops into Northern France and deal with the main Dutch forces, trusting the defence of Italy to the local garrisons.
With French troops focused solely on pushing out the Dutch they quickly turned the momentum of the war successfully drove the invaders out of France. Dutch armies pulled back to regroup allowing a quick reorganization of French infantry using the lessons learned from the conflict (1). Several months of quiet were then broken with French troops marching across the border into Luxemburg.
Despite several attempts to drive the French armies out of the Netherlands the Dutch forces were consistently repulsed with heavy casualties even when outnumbering the French armies. Louis XIII felt confident enough with the efforts against the Dutch that he dispatched a 50,000 strong cavalry army back to Italy to relieve in an attempt to lift several sieges. The relief force would catch the Byzantium forces by surprise, destroying two armies consisting of 19,000 cavalry each, before pressing on towards Venice. The French navy was called in to block the straights so the Greek army had no place to retreat and the 22,000 strong siege force was destroyed.
Byzantium reinforcements would begin to arrive though trapping the cavalry force in Venice and with the western front still quiet another 30,000 French cavalry was sent in hopes of driving out the Greeks from Italy for good. This proved to be a huge mistake though as they were intercepted by a force of over 80,000 Greek cavalry and destroyed.
The war would become quiet with sieges progressing slowly and neither side seeming interested in confrontation as war exhaustion in all three nations rose. Luxemburg would fall and French troops marched into Liege while talks began in earnest for peace. Demands by the Byzantium Empire for Sicily and southern Italy were rejected by France and the counter offer of Judea, with Bavaria and Austria falling under Dutch influence, did not sit well with the aggressors.
With negotiations breaking down a Dutch force of 100,000 cavalry and 46,000 infantry hit the French forces in Liege. French forces consisted of 7,000 cavalry, 7,000 artillery and 67,000 infantry. Despite being outnumbered almost two to one the French forces stood their ground and fought valiantly against the Dutch. On May 30, 1733, the Dutch soldiers would retreat from Liege leaving behind over dead 73,000 Dutch soldiers, at the cost of only 7,832 French. The crushing defeat of the Dutch forces would unofficially end the war and a formal peace was signed three months later on August 30th with France releasing Bavaria and Austria to the Netherlands and Byzantium receiving Judea and the two surrounding provinces.
The peace did not sit well with the French populace though as they believed that given time France could have demanded reparations from the Dutch and Greek forces and minor rebellions would spring up around the empire. The result of these rebellions would see Madurai gain its independence from France in 1738.
French nobles wanted revenge for the war forced on them by the Dutch. Diplomatic offers to negotiate for Bavaria had been made several times and ignored while the Greek Emperor had assured France that they would only resort to war if disputes could not first be settled through diplomacy. Despite this King Louis XIII desired stability in Europe and would again try diplomacy in hopes that France would not have to see another costly war. A memorial would be erected in Paris to honour the over 400,000 French lives lost in the conflict.
Dutch/Byzantium Offensive and conquests in France at hieght of war.
French counteroffensive and approximate areas of control at end of war.
(1) With advances in Land tech I took the chance of upgrading my infantry which really helped lower my casualties.