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    So now I'm on to Argentine,here too we didn't really have a commie party,so I will let that act as the nacionalistas under the LWR banner I kind of guess that's what best can describe "peronistas"...might even give me the odd chanche of putting Evita in somewhere.....as well as Peron probably will be in severakl disguises....
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    Originally posted by birch23
    So now I'm on to Argentine,here too we didn't really have a commie party,so I will let that act as the nacionalistas under the LWR banner I kind of guess that's what best can describe "peronistas"...might even give me the odd chanche of putting Evita in somewhere.....as well as Peron probably will be in severakl disguises....
    LWR is too far to the left for the Peronistas. RS or CE is probably more accurate (and will keep them from joining the Axis on a regualr basis). Though you can certainly use Peron in a variety of guises, and Evita too.
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    The populism regimes of South America were not of course commies, but were leftists anyway. You should not confuse the populist regimes with the standard militarist ones. For example Perón might work well as LWR, but he was not in power until the 40's. The militar regime ruling in Argentina in 1936 was not "populist", but a PA for HOI terms.
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    Originally posted by Ivan the red
    I'm taking a look in the event files searching for valid actionname codes. Some may work for special cases. For example that "bring them socialism!" or the "submit to the soviet pressure" may look nice for the "democracy or communism" Rep.Spain elections.
    Could do it I suppose...

    Labour is really too UK style... It'll be in alot of event files though...
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    Originally posted by Ivan the red
    The populism regimes of South America were not of course commies, but were leftists anyway. You should not confuse the populist regimes with the standard militarist ones. For example Perón might work well as LWR, but he was not in power until the 40's. The militar regime ruling in Argentina in 1936 was not "populist", but a PA for HOI terms.
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    Eva Peron - minister of security, Woman of the People trait
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    Originally posted by Halibutt
    Eva Peron - minister of security, Woman of the People trait
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    When I come to think about it, there is really no position she'd fit into
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    Why not? in the spanish files we have three women: La Pasionaria (ST, Efficient Sociophat and Iron Fisted Brute), Federica Montseny (LE, Technical Specialist) and Pilar Primo de Rivera (FA, Princess of Terror). We could have four if I had found a trait for Margarita Neken.

    ( We have to think a bit in the woman's market If we manage to make them buy this game we might got some female members here )
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    Some more interesting actionname codes...

    2015B "may the world tremble!" - you elect the most NZ cabinet
    2020B "do not create more tension" - elect a CE cabinet
    2024B "no peace with bolsheviks" - elect a PA-FA-NZ cabinet
    2100B "join the axis"
    3700B "stay neutral"
    2600C "unholy alliance" - a strange coalition, a lot in SPR
    2600B "no deals with the enemies of the workers"
    2627B "bring them socialism!" you elected a LWR-LE-ST
    3200B "submit to the soviet pressure" you accept a ST regime
    4101A "ally with the communists"

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    2503B "abstent"
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    Originally posted by JRaup
    LWR is too far to the left for the Peronistas. RS or CE is probably more accurate (and will keep them from joining the Axis on a regualr basis). Though you can certainly use Peron in a variety of guises, and Evita too.
    yep and he is used... Evita only once.LWR aren't too far to the left for the peronistas..and it reflects that it was not a democracy either.LWR will go extremely nice with Batista too until I can swing him to PA.and it is MADE for Estenssoro... the rest of the nacionalistas..well I will have to look carefully into each one....but I am having difficulty placing Vargas(Brazil).Getulism doesn't really fit into anything.

    Strangely enough one thing was common for them all--- a mixture of hate and fear for Los Estados Unidos....and they knew damn well all of them (except Estenssoro) that they should not cross that invisible line or else........
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    Originally posted by Ivan the red
    The populism regimes of South America were not of course commies, but were leftists anyway. You should not confuse the populist regimes with the standard militarist ones. For example Perón might work well as LWR, but he was not in power until the 40's. The militar regime ruling in Argentina in 1936 was not "populist", but a PA for HOI terms.
    ahhhhh....Peron will go as LWR (and a CE replacement before he comes to power himself in the coup in 45)(late 45)but Justo was actually more a LC with PA connections and that was why they ousted him in 38 for Ortiz who was straight PA,but when he became ill and died his sucessor Castillo swung more towards LC and that was not to the taste of Pedro Pablo Ramirez who couped him late 43(I made that 44)and installed his old buddy Farrell as president.,....this however was just what Peron needed and he threw them all out in 45 and became president in 46 (I've made that 45 for game reasons)

    But as you can see there was a split in the right wing faction in Argentine.Just for game reasons I have placed the fascist gov as a third option in 38 that one will never happen for the AI... the rest is just between all those who came to power and CE (which I think best describes the democratic powers in Argentine.

    And now I'm sitting here and wondering what Little Russia means....
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    Originally posted by Halibutt
    Eva Peron - minister of security, Woman of the People trait
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    I have actually choosen that one for her......
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    Originally posted by Ivan the red
    Why not? in the spanish files we have three women: La Pasionaria (ST, Efficient Sociophat and Iron Fisted Brute), Federica Montseny (LE, Technical Specialist) and Pilar Primo de Rivera (FA, Princess of Terror). We could have four if I had found a trait for Margarita Neken.

    ( We have to think a bit in the woman's market If we manage to make them buy this game we might got some female members here )
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    Originally posted by Vulture
    LOL

    When I come to think about it, there is really no position she'd fit into
    Found quite a lot of new Argentine pics too....have done all the renumbering and pic making so all I lack now is making the puzzle go up... (which I have discovered is the WORST part in this...

    so tomorrow you will have country no.3 finished total....and ready for event making too.

    next up is Australia and there won't be much done there,The Fascist Party never exceeded 500 members (and thats optimistic too)The commies were no force either..although in some way I will merge the LWR members to RS(Labour)

    and then Austria which will be fairly simple too.in 38 just NS or Schussnigg and in 44 Renner vs.,communist that covers it all...will be nice for the Austrian player to have the real NS gov(although in real life it did not last that long.....

    and anybody...do you have any idea where we should place Getulio Vargas...he is really an enigma,not democratic not PA (politically) and not left either...this is truly the Brazilian Way.(there were elections though...BUT....
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    Originally posted by birch23
    yep and he is used... Evita only once.LWR aren't too far to the left for the peronistas..and it reflects that it was not a democracy either.LWR will go extremely nice with Batista too until I can swing him to PA.and it is MADE for Estenssoro... the rest of the nacionalistas..well I will have to look carefully into each one....but I am having difficulty placing Vargas(Brazil).Getulism doesn't really fit into anything.

    Strangely enough one thing was common for them all--- a mixture of hate and fear for Los Estados Unidos....and they knew damn well all of them (except Estenssoro) that they should not cross that invisible line or else........

    Leave Vargas as a PA I would say...
    Prolly not too right, but PA is prolly the best way to represent non-democratic regimes.?
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    Originally posted by birch23
    Found quite a lot of new Argentine pics too....have done all the renumbering and pic making so all I lack now is making the puzzle go up... (which I have discovered is the WORST part in this...

    so tomorrow you will have country no.3 finished total....and ready for event making too.

    next up is Australia and there won't be much done there,The Fascist Party never exceeded 500 members (and thats optimistic too)The commies were no force either..although in some way I will merge the LWR members to RS(Labour)

    and then Austria which will be fairly simple too.in 38 just NS or Schussnigg and in 44 Renner vs.,communist that covers it all...will be nice for the Austrian player to have the real NS gov(although in real life it did not last that long.....

    and anybody...do you have any idea where we should place Getulio Vargas...he is really an enigma,not democratic not PA (politically) and not left either...this is truly the Brazilian Way.(there were elections though...BUT....
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    And now I'm sitting here and wondering what Little Russia means....
    Heavens, Birch, I have already told you about the ruskie girls... do you want me to write an AAR?

    ( I could title it as "four days of glory, eleven days of suffering" )

    Ah, and I vote about leaving Getulio Vargas as PA.
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    :WOOT:

    The election events seem to work fine. Just tested with Albania.

    One thing though Birch... Event engine can only handle four outcomes. So you'll have to cut one... I can do that from the event files. I assume you agree on cutting the KEEP CURRENT GOVERNMENT then for Albania? Or do you want others gone?

    A positive thing I just came up with: if a certain regime imposed claims on a certain territory we could add them as well in the events without screwing up the game from start.
    For example: we could cut the current Turkish claims on Iraq & Palestina and only add them again if the extreme Turkish nationalists come in power! :WOOT: We can virtually add any command to the events.


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    Originally posted by Vulture
    Leave Vargas as a PA I would say...
    Prolly not too right, but PA is prolly the best way to represent non-democratic regimes.?
    well I sort of got a bright idea about that one last night when I went to bed..... I suggest we make him CE and the cabinets CE/PA because ...that way the chanche of the AI Brazil joining the Allies (as in real life) will be MUCH bigger...
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    Originally posted by Ivan the red
    Heavens, Birch, I have already told you about the ruskie girls... do you want me to write an AAR?

    ( I could title it as "four days of glory, eleven days of suffering" )

    Ah, and I vote about leaving Getulio Vargas as PA.
    A public AAR will ne nice... although I think I can guess the end of the story... .Can one speak of unification here....???

    as for Vargas read above.
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