Gavelkind-sending son to the temple

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• Feb 21, 2015

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I know this question has been asked a lot. But I can't find a solution since every answer about that is for Catholic Church.

I am ruling Yabguid Beylerbeylik in Central Asia. Its religion is Tengrism (Pagan). Only succession option is Gavelkind. I have two sons and I want to send my other son to temple and make him a shaman but I can't find how to. It is a tribal country so there aren't buildings. But I have 2 of the 5 holy sites. There are temples in holy sites and I have two shamans for 2 temples. Luckily one of them just died and the game appointed a new shaman, randomly I guess. Is it even possible to make your son a shaman?

 

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Not with Gavelkind. Even if you held the temples yourself, you wouldn't be able to grant it to any of your sons.

 

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You have to revoke the title you to pass it out to your chosen successor.

However I don't believe giving a second son a temple holding removes him from succession, not for pagans.

 

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Thanks for the answers. I guess a succession war awaits me.

 

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If he's an adult, set your unwanted son as spymaster and put him into the byzantine empire. The Emperor (or Empress) will soon enough catch your spawn and mutilate him. If (s)he does the Squirrel thing (and goes for the nuts) off the bat, you're good. If (s)he blinds first, put the kid back into spymaster and send him back for a second round.

 

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Raise him christian and give him a temple. Also works with firstborn.

If you are reformed hermanic pagan any religion will do the magic of unable him to inherit.

Makes electiv gavelkind the best law and germanic the best religion.

 

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Why don't you just make your highest title your only title of that rank and then you realm won't be divided? Only two sons? Jeez I got like 10 and I'm gavelkinding just fine.

 

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Zohtun said:

If he's an adult, set your unwanted son as spymaster and put him into the byzantine empire. The Emperor (or Empress) will soon enough catch your spawn and mutilate him. If (s)he does the Squirrel thing (and goes for the nuts) off the bat, you're good. If (s)he blinds first, put the kid back into spymaster and send him back for a second round.

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Well, my heir is my spymaster with 21 intrigue skill. I mostly put him in Constantinople for research but they didn't catch him yet.

Woifee said:

Raise him christian and give him a temple. Also works with firstborn.

If you are reformed hermanic pagan any religion will do the magic of unable him to inherit.

Makes electiv gavelkind the best law and germanic the best religion.

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There aren't any Christians in Central Asia. I don't think I can make him Christian if there is no influence.
I also wrote in the first message I am a tengrist pagan. Not germanic. And still didn't reform but I am working on it.

ilikepie said:

Why don't you just make your highest title your only title of that rank and then you realm won't be divided? Only two sons? Jeez I got like 10 and I'm gavelkinding just fine.

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I have Kingdom of Turkestan title at highest. Below that I had 2 duchy titles but gave one of them to another vassal. I can still create another 2 duchy titles but I don't have the money. I have 7/7 demesne. It says I will lose 6 of them and my heir will only get the capital. Can you explain more?

 

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Just imprison and execute.

 

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Well, my heir just died of Great Pox. As I hoped for.

 

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If need be, groom your grandchildren and plan ahead. You can plot to kill those, ensuring you have a few to fall back on if heir suddenly dies, and then you can always imprison the few left when king gets old. Also, you can sometime divide the kingdom by granting a few duchies the way you like it. Believe I gave rest of sons counties in my second duchy, making none very strong and only one of them to inherit said duchy

 

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• Feb 21, 2015

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Dragula said:

Just imprison and execute.

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I honestly resort to this when I'm desperate (like when my primary heir is a drooling imbecile). Unfortunately since I spread my dynasty throughout the realm, I get hit with MASSIVE penalties... -40 for imprisoning, -10 for executing, and -25 for kinslayer. Oh well, it's worth it to keep the drooling imbecile off of the throne (or the attractive genius midas touched on it).

 

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That's why it better to do it once you are around 40-50 and have the long reign bonuses to compensate somewhat. Also, I usually use the Intrigue focus to do the imprison part without any tyranny.