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Emtenn

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The Legacy of Seleucus

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Following my abysmal Lombard AAR upon which bugs ravished me mercilessly, I have been challenged by a friend of mine to do what should by all rights be impossible. I have been challenged by my friend to re-created the Seleucid Empire as a Hellenic Pagan in the Charlemagne start. I do not expect that this AAR will last long due to the sheer daunting nature of the task. Hellenic Pagan's have basically no special features and I'm going to be plopped down in the heart of Muslim territory. Good times! I'll be leaving Hellenic Paganism alone for now, but if the forming of the Empire proves to be successful I might mod something in so that it can have a proper religious head.

Basics
-Starting in the CM Start Date as a count in the Kingdom of Syria (Ideally)
-I will use the character creator to make my character.
-Religion will stay Hellenic Pagan, no being a cheeky bastard and converting to Islam for free cake.
-I'll do my absolute best to not cheat or be overly gamey.

Goals
-Form a Hellenic Pagan Seleucid Empire
-Survive against the Muslims
-Survive against the Mongols

Bonus Goals
-Convert as much to Hellenic Pagan as possible.
-Seleucid can into India
-Expand Westward once all of India is mine.

The Table of Contents
Damianos Seleucus
Chapter I - The Reign of Damianos Seleucus - 769-781
 
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Damianos Seleucus
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Rule 769-???​

Damianos Seleucus had always lived a troubled life -- born of an affair between a Greek merchant and a Persian countess, Damianos was never exactly in the best of positions in the old world to begin with. Things only took a turn for the worst when Damianos took to exploring ancient texts and old relics. His obsession bordered on heretical and that caused some issue with his Muslim parents. Unfortunately, his father never suspected that his Persian wife had cheated on him and raised Damianos as his own. Of course, the count had not always been Damianos Seleucus. No, he was born Ala al-din bin Samar. The name Damianos Seleucus had been one that he selected for himself upon ascending to adult hood. Such a troublesome youth, Ala al-din spent his childhood studying the myths and legends of the Greeks and dreaming of the Empire's of old.

When Ala al-din's father, Samar, passed away suddenly it fell to Ala al-din to inherit the county which his father once governed. Sources say that was when he first went batshit crazy, though Damianos believes that was when he truly found himself. He dove into studies of the ancient empires and soon became convinced that he was infact the Son of Zeus himself, and that he had actually been the heir to the Seleucus Family, the rulers of Seleucia. Upon this revelation, Ala al-din forsook his father's dynasty and his parents, instead proclaiming himself as Damianos Seleucus. He believed himself a genius, everyone else believed him a madman.

Only history would be able to judge the fruits of his labor.

[For the record, I did use the Mod Character Creator Unlocker, but I did my best to give him negative traits as well as positive ones. I just don't see why I should have to be a syphilitic leper to have good traits when characters that PDS created have more absurd stats and traits, I'm looking at you, Sigurd. Yes, I did actually give him the Lunatic trait as well.]
 
Good luck! I hope the Muslims don't eat you alive!
 
Looks good. I recommend using the Ancient Religions mod, it fleshes out Hellenic Paganism.
 
Looks good. I recommend using the Ancient Religions mod, it fleshes out Hellenic Paganism.
I had thought about it, but I do not think that the Ancient Religions mod works with 2.2. My biggest complaint is that anything dealing with Hellenic Paganism in CK2 is more or less Graeco-Romanum, I.E the Roman Empire's version of Hellenism and not proper Greek Hellenism. Oh well, he's a lunatic, suppose it can be forgiven if he stumbles upon the Roman version of the Hellenic Faith.
 
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Chapter I - Reign Damianos Seleucus
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Rule 769-781
Legatus Augusti of Damascus
"Only the dead have seen the end of the war."
-Plato​

He lay in his bed, unmoving, his leg severed clean from his body and bandages wrapped around his head. The Legatus Augusti had not moved in days, laying in a comatose state unresponsive to the world. Truly he had been a madman, yet the feats he had accomplished were unmistakable. Even now as he lay dying, his fading mind seemed to call back to how he had changed the world in so little of time

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"Damianos! Damianos! Have you not heard the good news!? Revolution!"

Damianos' Marshall came screaming, the door to his chambers flying up. "Raise the flag! Revolution has spread like wildfire through his Empire of Muslims, and we must strike now!"

Damianos had been biding his time for such a moment for 4 years, and it all seemed to be facilitated by the fact that the Caliph had felt it necessary to revoke the Emir of Damascus from Damianos' liege. This act of tyranny was decried by lords throughout the land and many nobles had risen their flags in revolt, including Damianos. Now, he definitely had no love for the previous Emir -- able to recall quite clearly the hundreds of messengers that seemed to arrive every day from the Emir demanding the Damianos serve as the Emir's marshall or steward, depending on what month it was and upon which offer Damianos had previously rejected. Things had been especially awkward ever since Damianos had the grand idea to declare his Horse as chancellor, a decision which his council had quickly talked him into rescinding. Indeed, it seemed Damianos' madness grew more hindering by the day. During an elegant dinner party he once spotted the full moon, ripped his clothes off, and began to howl at it like a dog.

"Come, Ioulianos! Greatness awaits!" The young Damianos was ever so eager for war, ever so eager to prove himself in the fires of battle. His young son, Evangelos, watched quietly from the side, unable to find the words to say to his father. Damianos, however, just gave a small and awkward smile as he reached a hand out to pat Evangelos on the head. Truthfully, battle had been the only time where Damianos felt that his head was clear, the only time when he did not her the hundreds of voices whispering in the back of his mind. Zeus, Jupiter, Seleucus Nicator. They all spoke to him at one time or another, or so Damianos thought.

"I...I will return, son." It was one of those few, fleeting moments of clarity that Damianos had as he felt little Evangelos' arms about his waist as the boy gave the father a hug -- the last hug Damianos would ever know, in truth. Damianos just nodded, freeing himself of his boy as he marched off with Ioulianos to mount their horses and join the army in this great endeavor which they sought to undertake.

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He had experience fighting the Muslims, but never before had he seen an army of such a size amassed -- it was inconceivable the very size of the force that the Abbasid Caliphate had directed away from his war with Damianos' greek brethren to levy in his fight against the revolters. Naturally, Damianos was not alone in this independence league. Forming up alongside his Greek Cavalry and Heavy Infantry were Arab and Persian soldiers alike -- sure, Damianos had trained his troops in the Greek tradition but Damianos' upbringing meant that he was also familiar with the Eastern ways of war.

"It's a little awkward." Damianos said in Greek to his trusted general, Nikodermos "To fight along side the Muslims."

"Becareful, liege. They think us heretics, they'll likely turn on us."

[I forgot to take screenshots, so enjoy
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as a substitute]

The battle against the Abbasids were intense, just like the Greek heroes of old Damianos rode into battle alongside his men, his Companion Cavalry charging the Muslim lines during the echange of fire. Arrows pelted through the air, striking targets on both sides as the sound of men clashing against men echoed, the Cavalry charge slamming into the Abbasid left flank. There was little the lightly armored infantry could do to withstand the force of the heavily armored cavalry slamming into them, the morale of the Abbasid line steadily crumbling in the dust and blood.

Damianos felt alive, he felt renewed. The voices in his head all screamed toward one purpose and that was victory, Damianos ramming a spear through the heart of one of the Persian soldiers that the Caliph and drawn up to oppose their just and noble cause -- truly Damianos believed himself Seleucus Nicator himself at that moment, battling through the lines of infantry atop his horse and along side his heavily armored brethren. He must have slew a hundred enemies himself before the Abbasid was pushed into retreat. Despite the odds, the superior strategy of the revolting army and the terrain they chose to fight on gave the rebels the clear advantage in that battle.

The war, however, was slow. Damianos broke his army away and chased the fleeing Abbasid forces down until the army was broken and scattered to the wind. From there, he seized the Capital of Damascus from the Caliph himself, defeating the palace guards and taking into his possession numerous prisoners. The Abbasid Caliph reluctantly accepted the demands of the Independence League, with Damianos throwing off the shackles of vassalage. For whatever reason, the voice of Julius Caesar joined with those that already spoke in his mind and Damianos proclaimed himself the Legatus Augusti of Damascus.

Peace, however, would not last.

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The declarations arrived one after the other while Damianos' family was en route to Damascus. It brought joy to his heart as he threw the letter to one side "Call up the troops Ioulianus! The Muslims want another go!"

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Damianos would never see his son again, never know the warm embrace of his wife. Damianos' last thoughts would be of battle; of the taste of blood and sand filling his mouth. As he had done before, Damianos dared to charge the enemy lines head on. His cavalry smashed against the enemy lines and while things seemed to be going well, Damianos himself did not fare well. A sharp pain shot through his body, the Legatus Augusti crying out in pain as a spear bore through his upper thigh.

"JUPITERS COCK!"

The Legatus Augusti screamed as he fell from his horse, blood gushing from his mangled leg. Still, Damianos managed to thrust his spear upward as the arabs encircled him, the metal point striking true as it tore through the skull of one of his would be dispatchers. Relieved of his spear, Damianos turned to the sword as he battled off the enemies as best he could while separated from his guard. It was, however, for naught. A muslim managed to clobber him upside the head pretty hard and that was when the light of the world was extinguished.

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The voices.

The voices were finally silent.

His thoughts turned to his son, Evangelos -- his heir, the one who would carry on his name. He had left a shattered legacy behind and wished that he could have been more of a father to the boy, who had been born the child of a Concubine. Evangelos would have great challenges ahead of him, especially since the Muslim Holy War for Damascus still waged on. A faint smile crossed his lips before the light of life faded from his body.

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Αναπαύσου εν ειρήνη Damianos of the House Seleucus.

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The World as Evangelos shall know it.​
 
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So, I did find the version of the Ancient Religions mod that was compatible with 2.2 and installed it. The Muslims haven't crushed us yet, though I got super lucky with a super early Abbasid revolt that really dwindled their power. I ended up involved in another independence league after the Caliph revoked my former Duke's title. This let me break free as the Duchy of Damascus. We're still a little spec surrounded by a sea of green, though.
 
It's too bad that your future empire won't be called the Selucid Empire but rather the "insertregionname Empire" because Greek doesn't allow dynasty name to show and you can't mod Greek to do that without the Roman Empire showing their name as well.
 
It's too bad that your future empire won't be called the Selucid Empire but rather the "insertregionname Empire" because Greek doesn't allow dynasty name to show and you can't mod Greek to do that without the Roman Empire showing their name as well.
Well you could use the Customizer.
 
It's too bad that your future empire won't be called the Selucid Empire but rather the "insertregionname Empire" because Greek doesn't allow dynasty name to show and you can't mod Greek to do that without the Roman Empire showing their name as well.

I intend to use the customizer to rename the eventual Kingdom to Seleucia and the Empire to the Seleucid Empire. That said, from the 2nd Century onwards ancient writers referred to the Seleucid ruler as the King of Syria. The regional name of Syria is actually pretty old, dating back to the Assyrians.
 
Why not become a Persian? That way you can have the Seleucid Empire!
 
I plan on basically conquering what is the Persian Empire's de jure lands. I just decided to start with Culture Greek even though my characters ethnicity was Persian. Roleplaying him as a crazy guy that decided he was Greek one day.
 
Just a heads up, I haven't abandoned this, I'm just waiting to hear/se if Ancient Religions is compatible with 2.2.1 and such before I dive off into trying to play it. I've read some stuff in their thread about people getting CTDs, so I'm in a holding pattern.
 
This is great! I had given a go of my own at a custom hellenistic Greek count about a year ago, but he barely lasted a year before he was murdered... May Syria become again the hellenistic empire that it once was!
 
So. It looks like I'm going to have to start this over. After The Way of Life patch hit I cannot seem to locate my ironman savegame for this. I do, however, have a delightful Ironman savegame that I never remember starting as some guy in India now. Hurrah for that, I guess? Anyways. Sorry for the disappointment. I think my next go I'm not going to make it Ironman. Too much can go wrong in terms of the savegame itself to make it viable.