How will be calculated manpower? It will be like HOI3 or like something we seen in East vs West beta?
sorry for my bad english.
sorry for my bad english.
Fairly similar to HoI 3.
If you look at this screenshot from DD # 2, it lists 9990 men in the pool. (of course, this is a pre-alpha screenshot, so everything on there is subject to change).
Well, there's a number for manpower, sure, but it doesn't mean there isn't a mobilization system. I hope for a mobilization system where you can enact partial, full or more mobilization. Each giving some manpower (peace manpower would be low and nearly non existent) but malus (to research, IC, etc).
My whole problem with this is this manpower has to be "freed" up first. Part of the reason the USA was able to mobilize so much manpower was because they freed up millions of labors through farming and mining machines. If those 2 million tractors wouldn't have been built there would be several million less workers available for factories.
You can apply the same mechanics to USSR, which forced many farms into larger farms to make them more efficient, which also allowed them to use less manpower, freeing up manpower for the war.
Now Germany never did either of these, and was only able to utilize what small amount of labor was left free to mobilize.
Well, i should have said "probably fairly similar". They may have made an entirely new underlying system for calculating manpower. I meant the effect would be similar (IE, you have a manpower number as one of your "resources").That would be unfortunate. It's one of the least developed and lest realistic aspects of HOI.
One thing to keep in mind with the manpower numbers in game is that I don't think they are calculated initially from the available population of each country.
I beleve the number in game is reached by somthing similar to reverse engineering. Each country will need a certain amount of manpower to build to its historical force levels. Add in some adjustments for how heavy were the casualties for that nation and how badly tapped their manpower reserves were and you arrive at a figure. Now it is math to set the numbers in game to produce that figure.
3000 men of a ARM brigade require 2.33 MP, while 3000 men of an INF brigade require 3.33 MP. Then there is 3000 of a MAR brigade and 4 MP.correct, and iirc 1 manpower represents 1000 men in hearts of iron 3 I believe.
3000 men of a ARM brigade require 2.33 MP, while 3000 men of an INF brigade require 3.33 MP. Then there is 3000 of a MAR brigade and 4 MP.
I don't see what it has to do with mobilization. A mobilization system would mean that the effects of using more manpower into the army would be felt in industry, dissent, etc. . What you're against is a direct proportion between population and available manpower, which has never been the case in hoi. The manpower resource we have in provinces is not meant to represent the whole population, but what can be used in the army. The issue is that enrolling that manpower has no adverse effects, which is why I hope for a mobilization system.My whole problem with this is this manpower has to be "freed" up first. Part of the reason the USA was able to mobilize so much manpower was because they freed up millions of labors through farming and mining machines. If those 2 million tractors wouldn't have been built there would be several million less workers available for factories.
You can apply the same mechanics to USSR, which forced many farms into larger farms to make them more efficient, which also allowed them to use less manpower, freeing up manpower for the war.
Now Germany never did either of these, and was only able to utilize what small amount of labor was left free to mobilize.
I don't see what it has to do with mobilization. A mobilization system would mean that the effects of using more manpower into the army would be felt in industry, dissent, etc. . What you're against is a direct proportion between population and available manpower, which has never been the case in hoi. The manpower resource we have in provinces is not meant to represent the whole population, but what can be used in the army. The issue is that enrolling that manpower has no adverse effects, which is why I hope for a mobilization system.