Banish button, let's delete it too.

Rozmarzony

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Banish button, let's balance it too.

Groogy about balancing banish button:

I did some things to fix that, so should be trickier to do without consequence but its still quite possible to accomplish.

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Divilly

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Rozmarzony said:

After banishing specific character, his heir will inheirt lands and gold, and guy just would go to another country.)

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I hate this also

 

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I can readily keep control of a realm of some size after banishing a troublesome family. It's all about ruling through fear and force.

 

Ayn Mandarb

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Disagreed completely. A little bit if tyranny now and then can be justified. And in extreme circumstances so long as it's not abused it can be justified both historically and for gameplay reasons.

 

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It has the potential to be abused by a small population and/or someone on Multiplayer disregarding the house rules.

QUICK, GET RID OF IT.

 

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You get the penalty only if you have no reason to banish them. Of course you are a tyrant if you banish without reason!

 

klopkr

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Why get rid of it when you can just set a banishment cool down timer. After 4 unjust banishment's you need to wait 5 years to banish again. That would easily keep it from being exploited in the way you said.

 

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I hate to call it Banishment.

I prefer to call it matrelineal marriage to someone as far away from my realm as possible.

 

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klopkr said:

Why get rid of it when you can just set a banishment cool down timer. After 4 unjust banishment's you need to wait 5 years to banish again. That would easily keep it from being exploited in the way you said.

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I kind of like this idea. You can only banish somebody once in 5 years or so. That would bring some balance into the whole thing.

 

Rozmarzony

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Ezumiyr said:

You get the penalty only if you have no reason to banish them. Of course you are a tyrant if you banish without reason!

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You're always tyrant if someone is holding lands.
There is no option to banish without revoking lands even if you have a reasons.

 

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Nah, it's different than the assassination button. For one, it only works on members of your realm. The person also has to be imprisoned. The tyranny hit is there as a cost, yes you can banish one person and keep positive relations with your vassals. It isn't a simple "pay x gold for /kill command" button.

 

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The problem with banishment is that there are NO reason for banishment. Meaning that as long as the person has a title, massive tyrrany incurs.

I wish there were some reasons for banishment. But I don't think you incur any tyrrany on persons that have no titles.

 

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Yeah, also remove send gift. And plots. And factions. Too much gameyness for me.

And it ends up like EU4, a terrible game.

 

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Ezumiyr said:

You get the penalty only if you have no reason to banish them. Of course you are a tyrant if you banish without reason!

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What valid reason is there to banish someone who is landed?

I only seem to be able to tyranny-free banish vanquished adventurers.

 

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Banish has rather negative consequences if you use it. However Tyranny penalties should probably apply for even newly generated characters so you can't just banish your entire realm and have a fresh set of vassals that love you.

 

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Now now. We can't remove the single best way to gain quick cash.

 

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People don't seem to realize that the game can correct you on this kind of thing.

You start getting banish happy, and the moment someone decides to Plot to Kill your ruler, they get well over 100% plot power. You'll end up dead.

Now, you could even go so far as to game that, but really... only fix I would consider is that Tyranny applies to the title, so your heir is stuck with the malus until it expires.

 

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Banishing adventurers is the way I get gold I spent for mercs back. So, no, banishment should stay.

 

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Why do people keep insisting on stamping out all the role-playablibility in this game?

 

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sleath56 said:

Why do people keep insisting on stamping out all the role-playablibility in this game?

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Quite frankly, I'm beginning to think it's a game of sorts...

"How much game can we get nerfed before the devs realize we're gaming them."