If I may ask, other than the glaring fact that they share a faith with Finns, Samoyeds and the Khanty, what is so terribly wrong about the Volga Finns?
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Well. There are only one Volga-Finn culture in-game, Mordvins. The problem with them is that they don't exist even now. There are two distinct languages, Erzya and Moksha and extinct Meschera.
Maris are not culturally or linguistically of Mordovian group and making Merya of Mordvin culture is not unlike making Poles of Russian culture.
The names of course are way off.
What I'de done is to create two or three umbrella culture for Finns of the East: Volga Finns, Ural Finns and Permians.
Then there's the issue that even in the few occasions when we know their actual historcal rulers, they are ruled by random characters from made-up dynasties.
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?761125-Puresh-and-Purgaz-are-missing
Given that Charlemagne is promising huge updates alongside the start date and the Gavelkind fix, you might just get your wish, especially since the Estonian culture's provinces have been updated in the new map.
Estonia cannot into Nordic because Estonia is of Balkan with mixing of some of the Russia.
Estonia cannot into Nordic because Estonia is of Balkan with mixing of some of the Russia.
So, 100% Slavic? Or Balkan part comes from Greece or Albania? :wacko:
Where's es333 when we need him?
So, 100% Slavic? Or Balkan part comes from Greece or Albania? :wacko:
Where's es333 when we need him?
Don't jinx the thread :laugh:
Well, that' the second thread in recent memory I participate in, where people speak about Estonia in polite and civil manner. If this trend's to continue, Estonian theme will lost its notoriety and fearsome reputation.NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
You've doomed us all, friend.
“Take the jinx off our janx man… You need to unjinxelate our fucking janx!" - A mercenary in the movie Riddick.
Riddick... meh. Pitch Black still reigns supreme.
Back on topic, Uralic peoples need more love. Face packs, or if that's too much, clothes packs? And why do Samoyeds look like Germans?
I dunno, Khanty*, who are the only Ugoric people apart from Hungarians to make it in game can use some more Asian-looking portraits, but really, portrait pack for 1 culture who no one ever plays?
*(I'd argue that Mansi were more important in CK2 timeframe, at least they spent more time on the CK2 map)
And if you mean Permian Finns (i.e. Komi in-game, though I would again argue that Udmurts were more important) are fine with basic European portraits, seeing that they look like this:
Funny that for Samoyeds Pdox decided to go with name of a linguistic group, rather than with name of one nation from the group as with Komi and Mordvin. Funnier still, because the only Samoyed people to live on the CK2 map is Nenets. And yes, Mongol faces+arctic clothing is good for them, but do we have Arctic clothing DLC?
Mm, but as is the case with the contested Persian faces and others: Is that how they looked back then, or is this the result of decades and centuries of breeding with outside/foreign populations? Any descriptions or known genetic details from the era?
Russian sources (and there are no other sources for Medieval Ural) never mention anything specific about the way Komi look, so its safe to assume they looked not very unlike Russians themselves.
Instead of kidnapping you can JUST WRITE ****ING DIARY already. Yours sincerely.
