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[ You turn on a old radio. Suddenly, music normally found in an old newsreel is playing over the speaker!]
Then you hear a voice.

Hello, I'm jack Benning from the American News broadcast.
I'm here at the request of a certain friend of mine,
to tell you about a certain project that is currently in development.

Now a lot has changed in the time, since you last heard me.
For starters, we have a new name and everything.
Legacy of the Prometheans. you may ask why the change, and what's the meaning behind the name?
Well, the name reflects on a theme that is found in human history, that theme is that certain individuals
affect the course of history itself. Like Prometheus, these individuals bestow
the fires of progress upon humanity. However, this progress can also lead to terrible suffering,
which in a way, could be seen as "the wrath of the gods" for such knowledge bestowed.

There's also been a change in the overall "feel" of the mod.
What does this mean? Well. There's been a removal of some of the more eccentric elements.
So the mod will be going in the direction of plausibility.
Trying to create a situation that is interesting, while making it seem like it could have happened.
Of course some liberties we'll be taking here, and there, for the sake of something or other.
However, the overall goal is to create something believable.

Don't fear though, will still have some the wacky stuff thrown in, a couple oddities here and there,
some weird tales, mysteries to explore, after all, the world is a big place. Anything could happen...

Now you might be asking, jack what are we going to get?

Well you gonna get, two starting scenarios.

One taking place on the eve of our version of the first world war.

The next scenario, picks up around the time of the great depression,
which follows the path we think the war ended.

Of course you'll be able to change this outcome, in the previously mentioned first world war scenario.
The both of them will let you be able to to play till the year 1991!
Influencing the course of this world's history, throughout the time in between.

You're also going to get, period specific music for the changing eras, not to mention,
national radio stations, unique to that individual great power. With other nations having radio stations,
somewhere down the road ahead.

They'll be focus on narrative, at times.
Basically, we're gonna give you a bunch of stories to entertain you on your journey throughout time.
Some of these may actually influence your decisions.

I would also like to introduce you to the E3 map, which this mod will proudly use, to the best of our abilities.

Interesting Politics are also something that is being looked to the great interest.

Remember that old expanded features thing, well we do.

Lastly global trade is very important to us, therefore we hope to make it important to you as well.

So for now this is pretty much what your going to get.
If. And that's if we could pull it off.
This could all change on a dime. Therefore you may need some help.

What kind of help?

Well, coding, for starters, we look to people who have this ability of great interest.
We could also use historical information, lots of it actually.
We also need songs, what kind of sounds, anything for the great powers till 1991,
after that well. We ain't interested.

Other than that, just keep interested in what we're doing.
And please be patient, a lot of things could happen, one thing is for sure though we would try to see this thing through.

With that.

This is has been jack Benning.

Goodnight folks and have a pleasant day!


Hi again, everyone.

By now you're asking what the heck is this?

Basically it's a mod set in a alternate universe.
With elements of realism, science fiction, mystery,
and serious stuff.

The divergence point?

I'm not quite sure.

I can tell you it's at least before the 1500s.


The timeline

The stuff listed is major differences in this timeline.
The stuff not listed is events that mostly occurred in the same way it did in our timeline.
Or, Have yet to be determined.


Kaiserreich, is centered around a Central Powers victory in The First World War.

The Bonaparte legacy, is centered around Napoleon III's empire taking germany's place in history.

Fatherland, centers around the struggle between NAZI dominated Europe and the rest of the free world.

What's the main theme for this mod?

It doesn't really have one, it's just a world that made some choices different, and made some choices the same.


What type of experience is this thing going for?

Something interesting, that will entertain, tell a few stories, be fun, and maybe do some cool stuff along the way.


When can we expect a release?

Don't know. Maybe before the year's out. I hope...


Do you need help?

Yep. What my good friend, Mr. Benning said is pretty much what I need.
And anyone who can turn flags into DH shields and flags.
And someone who can create sprites.
Got a special job for you...


Will you keep all your promises?

Nothing is final. Anything could happen.

At the very least, some may find the world building interesting.

I want to contact you, for what ever reason.

Just ask for my e-mail, we'll go from there.

Will you just abandon this project?

Hope not. It's a ever growing thing that keeps me entertained.
Some days I may be gone for while, but I won't abandon this project unless I have a good reason for it.
I just need motivation. Sometimes I wanted to do some work, sometimes days I do not. Life has many distractions.

Are these just empty words?
That depends.
What do you think?

I made it to the end!
Thank you for taking the time to indulging my ego. :p

Legacy Timeline:
(Work in progress)

3000 BCE: The ancestors of Lanyans create their first city.
1500 BCE: Thera eruption occurs. The ancestors of Lanyans are nearly wiped out.
Survivors regroup and head north.

1450 BCE: The Lanyan survivors attempt to recreate their civilization in modern day Slovenia.

1st century BCE: The Romans conquer the Lanyans.

5th century CE: The Lanyan peoples break off from The Western Roman Empire.

6th century CE: The Lanyan peoples are we reconquered by The Byzantine empire.

7th century CE: The Lanyan peoples break off from the The Byzantine empire.

1044 CE: The Holy Roman Empire defeats the Lanyans and the Kingdom of Hungary.
Both are made vassal states of the Holy Roman Empire.

1053 CE: After a previous attempt it conquest three years ago, and one attempted within this year,
The Lanyans and Hungarians ensured their victory over The Holy Roman Empire.​



The Legacy Team

Me
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If ideas are welcomed, then I vote for:
- Vinland never falling,
- Draka being a powerful evil,
- few minor Israels around the world forming Jewish alliance,
- Chinese and Indians battling out massive warfare between themselves. Lets say Sikhs fighting in India against Brits and Azad Hind, while Taiping Heavenly Kingdom fighting other Chinese factions. Whomever wins in India and China, then battles out between themselves.
- colonial democracies fighting against pluralist democracies,
- Hitler re-building Austrian (fascist) empire in the lands of Austro-Hungary based on German supremacy
- A surviving Inca being the Japan of the Americas,
- United or disunited UNCA being puppet to United Fruit company, itself possibly being puppet to USA
- Some other territorial company tags like Fordlândia (with smaller provinces this becomes far, far more doable. Imagine powerful companies buying provinces in Africa - its already happening now so just push that to the extreme and allow them military sovereignty. Or just imagine somebody like Blackwater owning provinces).
- A possibility of communist Austro-Hungary
- Sunni-Shiite world war
- A rouge pirate state of Madagascar, engaged in
- (possibly steampunk) Mecha tech
- Airship tech (thank god now there are plenty of sprites for those)
- Some German tag led by Rommel
- Some French tag led by de Gaulle
- Some ultra-rightists from whatever beaten nation threatening the world from Antartica (in-game Tierra del Fuego)
- A multi-faction mechanized warfare in Russia or Africa might be fun with the plenty new provinces.
- A divided ultra-capitalist, high-tech Japan. Divided between Japanese companies.

And surely:
- A greater Baltic republic :D

P.S. Included few ideas developed long ago for my own mod about Nazis in Antarctica :p.
 
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If you want Ideas, one thing I always wanted to see is some kinda Celtic Republic/Kingdom, depending on the story, (probably holding Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Cornwall and Maybe Brittany).
 
How about flying aircraft carriers? :)
Well the U.S. will be experimenting with zeppelin carriers.
Since the U.S. controls most of the world's helium, Germany will probably go for a flying wing air carrier.
Depending on if they had the resources, or have won the war. Most of the world's powers may try something as well.

However I will tell you this, there's one man in the U.S. Navy, who is not too happy about how things are going.
He's been reading a lot of books on the old pirates of the Caribbean, and he has his eye on one of the U.S.'s experimental
Zeppelin carriers.
 
If ideas are welcomed, then I vote for:
- Vinland never falling,
- Draka being a powerful evil,
- few minor Israels around the world forming Jewish alliance,
- Chinese and Indians battling out massive warfare between themselves. Lets say Sikhs fighting in India against Brits and Azad Hind, while Taiping Heavenly Kingdom fighting other Chinese factions. Whomever wins in India and China, then battles out between themselves.
- colonial democracies fighting against pluralist democracies,
- Hitler re-building Austrian (fascist) empire in the lands of Austro-Hungary based on German supremacy
- A surviving Inca being the Japan of the Americas,
- United or disunited UNCA being puppet to United Fruit company, itself possibly being puppet to USA
- Some other territorial company tags like Fordlândia (with smaller provinces this becomes far, far more doable. Imagine powerful companies buying provinces in Africa - its already happening now so just push that to the extreme and allow them military sovereignty. Or just imagine somebody like Blackwater owning provinces).
- A possibility of communist Austro-Hungary
- Sunni-Shiite world war
- A rouge pirate state of Madagascar, engaged in
- (possibly steampunk) Mecha tech
- Airship tech (thank god now there are plenty of sprites for those)
- Some German tag led by Rommel
- Some French tag led by de Gaulle
- Some ultra-rightists from whatever beaten nation threatening the world from Antartica (in-game Tierra del Fuego)
- A multi-faction mechanized warfare in Russia or Africa might be fun with the plenty new provinces.
- A divided ultra-capitalist, high-tech Japan. Divided between Japanese companies.

And surely:
- A greater Baltic republic :D

P.S. Included few ideas developed long ago for my own mod about Nazis in Antarctica :p.

Vinland never falling
I don't know, kind of like Canadia.
We'll see.

Draka being a powerful evil
I don't know those guys are so insane even Nazis don't like them, even know they do similar things!

few minor Israels around the world forming Jewish alliance
Well there's been people lobbying for a Jewish State for hundreds of years.
There probably will be a whole story involved with creating a Jewish State somewhere.

Chinese and Indians battling out massive warfare between themselves. Lets say Sikhs fighting in India against Brits and Azad Hind, while Taiping Heavenly Kingdom fighting other Chinese factions. Whomever wins in India and China, then battles out between themselves.

I was thinking the Chinese could join The Axis Powers, and try to form "The New Order of Asia".

colonial democracies fighting against pluralist democracies
You might have to explain this one.

Hitler re-building Austrian (fascist) empire in the lands of Austro-Hungary based on German supremacy
Well, let's just say Hungry and Lanya, are eyeing those territories with interest.

A surviving Inca being the Japan of the Americas
I don't know about this one.

United or disunited UNCA being puppet to United Fruit company, itself possibly being puppet to USA
I don't know. But it sounds interesting.
Have to give that one more thought.

Some other territorial company tags like Fordlândia (with smaller provinces this becomes far, far more doable. Imagine powerful companies buying provinces in Africa - its already happening now so just push that to the extreme and allow them military sovereignty. Or just imagine somebody like Blackwater owning provinces).
Maybe. I was thinking that we could have PMC tags at some point.
However that is going to take. So much work...

A possibility of communist Austro-Hungary
Well I guess if you keep Austria-Hungry together, and then try to reform it.
It could happen. However, it also depends on whether or not the October revolution happened in Russia,
and whether not the French had their revolution.

You could either end up with a sort of old school socialism, or Lenin's communism, becoming the main form of radical leftism in the world.

Sunni-Shiite world war

Hope not, that would be hell on earth!
I guess it could happen if things get bad enough.

A rouge pirate state of Madagascar, engaged in
Not quite Madagascar, but there will be pirate forces. :)

(possibly steampunk) Mecha tech
Well, the nations of the world are experimenting with new technologies.
However, you'll have to put some serious dollars behind such a thing as a Mecha, and it may not work.
As for steam punk technologies, there will be some.

Airship tech (thank god now there are plenty of sprites for those)
Germany and Lanya, will have them in The First World War, and by the time The War is over, other nations
will develop an interest in the technology.
I guess it all depends on if they can get helium, and whether or not there are any disasters. (R-101, USS Macon, Hindenburg)

Some German tag led by Rommel
Their are two ways I could see him becoming leader.

Either Hitler died in a coup, or of natural causes.
Or he becomes chancellor in some German empire that survived The War.

One thing I will say, Lanya likes Germany, but doesn't like it's crazy leader, who they think
may drag the entire Axis down to hell.

Some French tag led by de Gaulle
Depends on whether or not France falls.
If it does, Charles De Gaulle will definitely be a part of some resistance force.

Some ultra-rightists from whatever beaten nation threatening the world from Antartica (in-game Tierra del Fuego)
Probably not the world, but they could endanger ships and nations in that area.
However, Antarctica is a weird place, and there's a reason for why the U.S. is a little scared.

A multi-faction mechanized warfare in Russia or Africa might be fun with the plenty new provinces

I guess it depends on what you do in the game.
I know Africa will be a place of conflict.
Russia, time will tell, sooner or later, time will tell.

A divided ultra-capitalist, high-tech Japan. Divided between Japanese companies.
I guess if you go the democratic route, give corruption time to fester.
You could get something like the U.S. of our world. Maybe.

However if you like corporate controlled nations, there's a certain city in the Pacific that may or may not declare its independence,
Depending on whether or not France becomes a socialist federation.
If France does, you could be looking at an independent "New York of the Pacific" who will be controlled by powerful corporations.

A greater Baltic republic
I guess it depends on what deal Russia makes with Germany, in The First World War.
 
If you want Ideas, one thing I always wanted to see is some kinda Celtic Republic/Kingdom, depending on the story, (probably holding Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Cornwall and Maybe Brittany).

I kind of want a British empire curb stomping the world.
However, I can always throw in some Celtic elements.
 
I kind of want a British empire curb stomping the world.
However, I can always throw in some Celtic elements.
Maybe Britain could have more tolerance to the Irish Scottish and Welsh, have control of Ireland, (in a Mega Britain, even as an Irishmen, you know who's biting the dust first :D) and Ministers from the before-mention areas could have their native Langues spellings, (exp: John Aloysius Costello = Seán Alabhaois Mac Coisdealbha)
 
Maybe Britain could have more tolerance to the Irish Scottish and Welsh, have control of Ireland, (in a Mega Britain, even as an Irishmen, you know who's biting the dust first :D) and Ministers from the before-mention areas could have their native Langues spellings, (exp: John Aloysius Costello = Seán Alabhaois Mac Coisdealbha)
Just curious, why weren't the British more tolerant to the Celts in our world.
As for having people use their native names, guess we could do that.

Ireland being controlled by Britain.
Before The First World War sure, afterwards.
I don't think The Republican Irish would like that.
 
All depends on the story, and even if the British try to keep them, the Republicans would make sure they'd pay the price.
on a side note, I could also see the IRA (if the revolts drag on after WW1) adopting to go either to the Right/Far Right, or to the Left/Far Left.
 
All depends on the story, and even if the British try to keep them, the Republicans would make sure they'd pay the price.
on a side note, I could also see the IRA (if the revolts drag on after WW1) adopting to go either to the Right/Far Right, or to the Left/Far Left.
Well, in The First World War scenario you could have something like this.
Depending on how everything goes.

Like Mr. Benning said, the 1933 scenario is just how we interpreted events playing out,
but you can change everything and create your own timeline in 1914.

This does sound like an interesting what if scenario.
 
colonial democracies fighting against pluralist democracies
You might have to explain this one.

There are couple of large colonial empires, like French and British, which are especially close to one another. And then there are democracies like USA which are anti-colonialist. Lets take this example - imagine Franco-British union fully happening, like it was imagined briefly in our timeline in 1940 and 1956. Might such a larger state attempt to fight more for its colonial belongings? Possibly. So putting that to the extreme and a chance of hostilities with USA is there, if Franco-British union is fighting some colonial rebels and USA decides to fully support the rebel side. Thus, colonial democracies go into war against "pluralist"/"anti-colonial" democracies. Of course, fighting against USA is possibly only if these colonial democracies are either couple of them together (thats why I mention Franc-British union), they are not beaten in 2 world wars, USA is weaker, or other conditions.
Realistically, just this one case of differences in foreign policy usually is far from enough for a war between great states. But, if there are other reasons for hostilities, then it can be explored.

One more idea - a Portugal-Brazilian federation with a capital on some island in the middle between them might be also an interesting addition. Especially if game can go for 30+ years then such integration process could actually happen also during the game, though, would make more sense to be at the start.

And one more idea: The question of 51st state. for a short time after 1945 Sicily had a group lobbying for joining the USA. Also in USA itself there were ideas about the need to annex Japan fully into USA after 1945. And then there were ideas that Taiwan, with the last anti-communists sheltering there, should also join the USA.. And of course, Cuba, was de-facto USA territory in the second part of 19th century. Now, of course, USA is already a superpower.. at least post-WW1. But, the option for USA to go into these or similar cases with the attitude: "To hell with it, we can enlarge anywhere if people want it" would be also an interesting development. With appropriate difficulties, costs, negative reactions from other states, etc.

AAnd one more: this concept is a great one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Federation

Anyway, all depends on whats the timeline, the point of divergence and how to make the world consistent with itself.