Reichskommisariats: Do you use them?

der Kriegsherr · May 10, 2014

This is coming from a DH veteran who's played countless games as Germany, but I can't figure out for the life of me why you would want to release the Reichskommisariats? Germany needs the resources and IC taken from the Soviets if they're ever going to stand up to the USA, and the RKs would just remove the IC/resources from your direct control. I can't figure it out from the puppet angle either, as Germany will have plenty of those by this point.

Unless you get to eventually integrate them into the Reich itself, I don't see much point in releasing them.

NLStak · May 10, 2014

IT doesn't matter. USA is very easy to kill. Use the RKs is only good if you don't want to deal with partisans.

nachopontmercy · May 10, 2014

The only reason I see to use them is to reduce your TC capacity...or to have a nice map once the war is over.

Epaminondas · May 10, 2014

nachopontmercy said:
The only reason I see to use them is to reduce your TC capacity...or to have a nice map once the war is over.

That's the big ticket for me as well. You won't get much else other than a few divisions that can be used in the anti-partisan role, but the benefit to your TC is not to be sneezed at.

tooichan · May 10, 2014

As far as I understand it, you have only 3 reasons to release RKs.
1. Roleplay
2. Free up TC
3. Good-looking map
However, you won't receive notification when a rebel pops up! Other than these 3 reasons, it's better off leaving it to direct control.

Nicophorus · May 10, 2014

They are useless because when you try to release them from occupied soviet territory, they don't get ANY of the land except the capital city and there is no way to transfer the land to them.

This is the biggest problem with them, they cannot be set up until after the soviet union is defeated, and by then who cares? the game is over.

Gukpa · May 11, 2014

And you cannot liberate the countries,so is or you liberate the useless Reichkomissariats or you occupy the whole soviet territory,destroying your TC

Because "generalplan ost"

nachopontmercy · May 14, 2014

tooichan said:
As far as I understand it, you have only 3 reasons to release RKs.
1. Roleplay
2. Free up TC
3. Good-looking map
However, you won't receive notification when a rebel pops up! Other than these 3 reasons, it's better off leaving it to direct control.

True, so if you use them don´t forget to watch its map from time to time. I lost Norway once that way.:angry:

Lucifer · May 14, 2014

Once their stockpiles have reached a threshold, RKs give to their controller nation everything above the threshold. Considering that their resource output is 1/3 higher, that's a bargain in my opinion. Plus they will start to produce units which can be used to control their partisans under control once they will be military controlled. If these units are sprinkled on the territory with the anti-partisan order, they will start engaging partisans in the surrounding provinces and the controller will receive warnings since the RK units are military controlled.
Furthermore, they remove quite a load from the master's TC. And there is the cool factor on the map. So, to answer the OT question, yes, I have started to use them in my AAR.

Epaminondas · May 15, 2014

Lucifer said:
Once their stockpiles have reached a threshold, RKs give to their controller nation everything above the threshold. Considering that their resource output is 1/3 higher, that's a bargain in my opinion.

That's a good point Luci, I'd forgotten it entirely. Since you have your AAR in progress I wonder if you can shed some light on a related point - whether that output 'bonus' extends to provinces gifted to them or applies only to their listed cores. I did experiment with this once myself but can't for the life of me remember the outcome.

Nicophorus · May 15, 2014

Epaminondas said:
That's a good point Luci, I'd forgotten it entirely. Since you have your AAR in progress I wonder if you can shed some light on a related point - whether that output 'bonus' extends to provinces gifted to them or applies only to their listed cores. I did experiment with this once myself but can't for the life of me remember the outcome.

Yes its a good point, but again it has to be said:

These things CANNOT even be released until after the bitter peace (or you annex USSR completely) beyond as one province minors since you cannot give them their claimed lands.

And the game is over after bitter peace. Sure you can invade North America for fun, but there is no more challenge and thus those RKs are useless.

I guess I'll make another suggestion in the suggestion section but this needs to be addressed, letting them be formed from occupied territory so the RK's can do their evil work squeezing the occupied territories while it actually matters (USSR still alive).

Epaminondas · May 16, 2014

Nicophorus said:
I guess I'll make another suggestion in the suggestion section but this needs to be addressed, letting them be formed from occupied territory so the RK's can do their evil work squeezing the occupied territories while it actually matters (USSR still alive).

There's no doubt that would definitely be a substantial improvement. Even as it stands, though, I've found their contribution useful when Stalin comes knocking to ask for his ball back while I'm busy trying to get get the fat American lady to sing.

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