can't mend the schism

grathad · Apr 9, 2014

Hi everybody, I have a question regarding the great schism.
I play ERE, and I got all 5 pentarchy sites, in order to press the mend the schism event.

The problem is related to the Rome county. I declared on the pope, got its land, but when the war was over, Only the churches were captured. Is that a bug ? Is it intended ?

Thus I would like to declare war to the baronies inside of the county, but I can't they need to be independent ...

And I can't declare on the Pope neither. I don't know exactly why, I guess it is because he is landless now. So his vassals are pretty much invincible :s

I will try to get the whole Latium Duchy to see if it changes anything.
At last resort I will grant independance to the area and try to reconquer it, but I doubt it would work.
Any ideas before I try something odd, or file a bug ?

Thanks.

WarwolfOmega · Apr 9, 2014

Dude, there's a post just a few away from yours with the same question, plus a quick search of Rome or Schism would have given you several threads all with a work around in them.

Sorry if I come across as belligerent but, there's been a plague of these threads.

Panzerschiffe · Apr 9, 2014

WarwolfOmega said:
Dude, there's a post just a few away from yours with the same question, plus a quick search of Rome or Schism would have given you several threads all with a work around in them.

Sorry if I come across as belligerent but, there's been a plague of these threads.

Check out my post.

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?768066-Mending-the-great-schism...ish

grathad · Apr 10, 2014

Hi WarwolfOmega, you are right, I am sorry, I checked a month ago and waited to post. I should have rechecked again. You are right, there is no need to duplicate threads, especially when the search is so easy.
Panzershiffe : thanks for the link ^^

ChristesII · Apr 10, 2014

Also, if you're not doing ironman, just give yourself the titles using the console. There's really no harm in it since you should have gotten them anyway.

ladlas · Apr 10, 2014

I started a thread on this as well. Lots of us who are left hanging because of this one. I'm playing an ironman game where I'm stuck for the exact same reason. This, as someone pointed out, will of course hinder a restoration of the roman empire.

Xia · Apr 10, 2014

Try and land the pope if you are in Ironman, it could be quite awkward to pull off, but once you do you'll then be able to take each barony individually. I'm really not sure what causes it as it didn't happen to me on the two times I've taken Rome off of the pope...

ladlas · Apr 10, 2014

Xia said:
Try and land the pope if you are in Ironman, it could be quite awkward to pull off, but once you do you'll then be able to take each barony individually. I'm really not sure what causes it as it didn't happen to me on the two times I've taken Rome off of the pope...

This was discussed in an earlier thread. This requires moving your capital to a catholic province and using the intrigue-tab decision to convert. You can then land the pope, and...then what? Enjoy all the religion-related uprisings until your character dies so you can move your capital again?

panionios · Apr 10, 2014

You also need 2000 pity!!!!!!!! which you clearly don't have (very first condition on first screenshot)

Panzerschiffe · Apr 10, 2014

Something about "Le Évêché" just makes me cringe. In fact, that French translation just makes me cringe.

Horde gold, stick your spymaster there and swing wildly.

Emre Yigit · Apr 10, 2014

ladlas said:
This was discussed in an earlier thread. This requires moving your capital to a catholic province and using the intrigue-tab decision to convert. You can then land the pope, and...then what? Enjoy all the religion-related uprisings until your character dies so you can move your capital again?

Can't you move right back to Constantinople because that is the "traditional capital" of the Byzantine Empire? And, hence, convert straight back to Orthodoxy. Even if that doesn't work, surely, as the ERE, your (still-Orthodox) chaplain is quite high stat and can speedily convert your current province?

ChristesII · Apr 10, 2014

ladlas said:
I started a thread on this as well. Lots of us who are left hanging because of this one. I'm playing an ironman game where I'm stuck for the exact same reason. This, as someone pointed out, will of course hinder a restoration of the roman empire.

Have you tried the baron assassination trick?

WarwolfOmega · Apr 10, 2014

Sorry, I feel like an ash, I shouldn't have been so rude. Here's the work around that works for me:

WarwolfOmega said:
In my experience, you get the bishophics but the cities and castles remain vassals of the Pope who is now landless and therefore cannot be declared war on.

In the 867 start, Tusculum (one of the castles in Rome) is sworn to Italy, the other, Tivoli is sworn to the Pope. The workaround I use is to assassinate the baron of Tivoli and all his heirs until the Pope inherits Tivoli. BEFORE unpausing the game after that last assassination, you can declare war on the newly landed Pope. Claim the any and all cities before you go for the claim on Tivoli because the cities are always inherited by a random new mayor.

I hope they fix it soon, it's annoying as heck!

ChristesII · Apr 10, 2014

WarwolfOmega said:
Sorry, I feel like an ash, I shouldn't have been so rude. Here's the work around that works for me:

Thanks for posting that. I would have, but I'm tired of doing it. Hopefully these forums will become so saturated with these threads that there will always be a solution around.

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