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Elias Tarfarius

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http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=243993297

Decided to post this good news among the other less excited thread Post RoI. I was thrilled to see AI Karlmann, great-grandson of Charlemagne, invade Italy and take the 'Roman' crown for himself by 878 as he historically did. I don't know if its WAD with the decision but he also destroyed his Italian and Bavarian king titles once he did it. Also, by now in game (mid 10th century), the Ottonians have obtained the Imperial crown under a Walter with his heir, Otto! Germany is going pretty true to life... except for all those Hungarian Dukes ruling in Bavaria and Italy... and their's Kings capital being Rome :)

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=243997076
 
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I always make a super HRE by killing karlings to the point where 1 karling holds all kingdoms karlings have... then the game turns interesting xD
 
Honestly, in my last two games with TOG start (and me playing far away from europe) I've seen HRE form much like this; Germany-Bav-Italy,
wonder if they really changed anything or just pure chance though.....
 
The HRE can now be found via decision:
- You need to be King of Germany
- 1000 prestige
- And a total realmsize of 220 or higher

Code:
 taken from minor_decisions.txt:
	form_the_hre = {
		is_high_prio = yes
		potential = {
			is_playable = yes
			OR = {
				religion = catholic
				religion = fraticelli
			}
			OR = {
				culture = german
				culture = dutch
			}
			e_hre = {
				has_holder = no
			}
			e_france = {
				has_holder = no
			}
		}
		allow = {
			is_adult = yes
			prisoner = no
			NOT = { trait = incapable }
			prestige = 1000
			realm_size = 220
			has_landed_title = k_germany
			any_demesne_title = {
				tier = KING
				NOT = {
					title = k_germany
				}
			}
		}
		effect = {
			if = {
				limit = { has_nickname = no }
				give_nickname = nick_the_great
			}
			e_hre = {
				grant_title = ROOT
				add_law = succ_feudal_elective
			}
			any_demesne_title = {
				limit = {
					tier = KING
					NOT = {
						title = k_germany
					}
				}
				destroy_landed_title = THIS
			}
		}
		revoke_allowed = {
			always = no
		}
		ai_will_do = {
			factor = 1
		}
	}
Creating the HRE by decision will destroy every kingdom-title except Germany.
 
The HRE can now be found via decision:
- You need to be King of Germany
- 1000 prestige
- And a total realmsize of 220 or higher

Code:
 taken from minor_decisions.txt:
	form_the_hre = {
		is_high_prio = yes
		potential = {
			is_playable = yes
			OR = {
				religion = catholic
				religion = fraticelli
			}
			OR = {
				culture = german
				culture = dutch
			}
			e_hre = {
				has_holder = no
			}
			e_france = {
				has_holder = no
			}
		}
		allow = {
			is_adult = yes
			prisoner = no
			NOT = { trait = incapable }
			prestige = 1000
			realm_size = 220
			has_landed_title = k_germany
			any_demesne_title = {
				tier = KING
				NOT = {
					title = k_germany
				}
			}
		}
		effect = {
			if = {
				limit = { has_nickname = no }
				give_nickname = nick_the_great
			}
			e_hre = {
				grant_title = ROOT
				add_law = succ_feudal_elective
			}
			any_demesne_title = {
				limit = {
					tier = KING
					NOT = {
						title = k_germany
					}
				}
				destroy_landed_title = THIS
			}
		}
		revoke_allowed = {
			always = no
		}
		ai_will_do = {
			factor = 1
		}
	}
Creating the HRE by decision will destroy every kingdom-title except Germany.

Funnily enough in my Venice save, the German King inherited Italy, Lotharingia and Burgundy... and rather than found the HRE normally, used the decision and destroyed the other titles. Silly AI.
 
Funnily enough in my Venice save, the German King inherited Italy, Lotharingia and Burgundy... and rather than found the HRE normally, used the decision and destroyed the other titles. Silly AI.
You don't need that stupid piety with the decision.
 
In my current reformed Norse game, Europe and the Karling kingdoms are so fractured it's ridiculous.



Wait...

Do you still need to be catholic to make the HRE? Because if not...

Looking at the (posted) decision code, you need to be either catholic or fraticelli, and dutch or german.

That messalian empire is going to be a challenge to form...
 
Looking at the (posted) decision code, you need to be either catholic or fraticelli, and dutch or german.

That messalian empire is going to be a challenge to form...
Who says you have to be the one to form it *evil laugh here*