Paradox - Release the source code from this game

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• Jul 14, 2013

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I was assured many times over by the staff of TT that the game's crashing issues would be fixed. I stood up for them when everyone else was bashing them based on these promises. TT then went and dumped the title when they could have fixed it. Decent people would have taken their own personal time to make things right which these guys obviously didn't do and apparently never had any intention of.

I think the best thing to do since even those of us with Supercomputers cannot finish scenarios is to either release the source code or offer a refund/coupon towards other Paradox titles. I'm always a huge stalwart and proponent of supporting developers themselves, but it's apparent we were used by this team.

 

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• Jul 22, 2013

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Hello jpinard,

Sorry for the late reply. I find your reasoning to make sense and I have brought this up with the producers. A discussion about doing this will commence, but I can't promise the result will be what you wish for (all kinds of legal mumbo jumbo and similar involved). But more info to come!

 

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• Jul 23, 2013

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BjornB - if you succeed with it - the crate of your favourite drink will be delivered to your address

 

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• Jul 24, 2013

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niripas said:

BjornB - if you succeed with it - the crate of your favourite drink will be delivered to your address

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2 crates

 

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• Jul 29, 2013

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BjornB said:

Hello jpinard,

Sorry for the late reply. I find your reasoning to make sense and I have brought this up with the producers. A discussion about doing this will commence, but I can't promise the result will be what you wish for (all kinds of legal mumbo jumbo and similar involved). But more info to come!

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This is fantastic, thank you all so much!

 

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Look forward to the outcome of this.

 

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• Aug 16, 2013

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Holy h... If paradox do this they would have my eternal respect.
It would be the right thing to do, But I'm afraid some suit will stop it. Companies rarely do the right thing.

 

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• Aug 18, 2013

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I would love to see the code in the hands of people who would polish the game, rather than it being the stale unfinished product we got.

 

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• Aug 29, 2013

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Just to let you know that I'm still on this. Not moving fast, but I'm slowly navigating my way through the bureaucracy to find the person who can decide this stuff. Software rights can be a messy thing sometimes

 

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• Aug 31, 2013

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Great to know you listen to us, you wouldn't get this from EA...

 

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• Sep 2, 2013

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BjornB said:

Just to let you know that I'm still on this. Not moving fast, but I'm slowly navigating my way through the bureaucracy to find the person who can decide this stuff. Software rights can be a messy thing sometimes

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Paradox isn't that huge a company is it? Theres not too many people to ask and the CEO should know who to ask atleast, so start with him
But usually the developer own the code itself, while the publisher own the name of the game and so on.

Like when Eidos and Sports Interactive "broke up". SI took their code and went to Sega, but could no longer use the Championship Manager name. So they released the same code with updates and improvements as Football Manager , and Eidos hired a new team (Beautiful games) to make the next Championship Manager from scratch.

My guess is you will need TT games' permission to release the source code, and very very few developers want their source code released. Specially if they've messed it up.
It all depends on the deal you signed with TT games. But usually the developer own the sourcecode.

 

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• Sep 2, 2013

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Spookyashell said:

Paradox isn't that huge a company is it? Theres not too many people to ask and the CEO should know who to ask atleast, so start with him
But usually the developer own the code itself, while the publisher own the name of the game and so on.

Like when Eidos and Sports Interactive "broke up". SI took their code and went to Sega, but could no longer use the Championship Manager name. So they released the same code with updates and improvements as Football Manager , and Eidos hired a new team (Beautiful games) to make the next Championship Manager from scratch.

My guess is you will need TT games' permission to release the source code, and very very few developers want their source code released. Specially if they've messed it up.
It all depends on the deal you signed with TT games. But usually the developer own the sourcecode.

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You are close to the truth

 

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• Sep 22, 2013

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I think that TT made a great game with NWAC, they just not been able to finish it.

Releasing it open source would be a win-win move, because if enough interests arise and the game is getting fixed and expanded and it gains popularity, it could open a way for a sequel. This means more work and money for TT and Paradox. It also means a image return for Paradox in form of happy customers instead of an angry mob.

 

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• Oct 16, 2013

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Hi guys! I finally managed to bring you something: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?728920-Naval-War-Arctic-Circle-Source-Code!

I don't know what you can do with it, but it was all I could get. I hope it is of some use for you.

 

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• Oct 25, 2013

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niripas said:

BjornB - if you succeed with it - the crate of your favourite drink will be delivered to your address

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tommo8993 said:

2 crates

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Sounds like you'll have 3 crates of bevvies heading your way some time soon

 

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• Oct 28, 2013

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General Baker said:

Sounds like you'll have 3 crates of bevvies heading your way some time soon

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Looking forwards to it