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    Jomsvikings.

    In what year are they supposed to appear? Are there other conditions?

    In my Holmgsgard's game (923, unreformed norse pagan) I haven't seen them yet.

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    It needs to be after 920, and it appears certain provinces near the Baltic (mostly in Pomerania) need to be ruled by Catholics.

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    I got to 1000 and I haven't seen them yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsara View Post
    It needs to be after 920, and it appears certain provinces near the Baltic (mostly in Pomerania) need to be ruled by Catholics.
    Meh

    Why?

    I feel that most of the events for the Norse are too circumstancial / the requisites are too strict. I haven't seen any duel or any berserker so far. Actually, I haven't seen any event at all except the +2 martial one when raiding, and those instigated by Decisions (Blot / Runestone). And even the Blot triggers always the same two events: the Lustful and Gluttonous ones.

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    I usually get them around 960, but they are fairly weak and require a lot of piety... with the current looting system, its far better to go for mercs.
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    I see them in the mid 900s. In my last game they showed up asking to build a castle holding in Stettin, a County I had just conquered as Norse Denmark.

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    I am several years past the year 1000, formed Scandinavia and there aren't many (if any) Catholics in the Baltic region.

    Is anyone else hoping for someone to make a Reformed Pagan Holy Orders mod?
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    Ah, I get it now, Norse Pagans need to own a province, and the Pope gets the event that causes them to appear, but other wise has nothing to do with it. It also require a certain barony not exist yet. The provinces it can affect are:

    Kolbatz in Stettin
    Zussow in Wolgast
    Putbus in Rugen
    Tribsee in Werle

    The Jomsvikings will only appear in one of these.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsara View Post
    Ah, I get it now, Norse Pagans need to own a province, and the Pope gets the event that causes them to appear, but other wise has nothing to do with it. It also require a certain barony not exist yet. The provinces it can affect are:

    Kolbatz in Stettin
    Zussow in Wolgast
    Putbus in Rugen
    Tribsee in Werle

    The Jomsvikings will only appear in one of these.
    "own a province" - What province? One of the four you listed?
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    Currently they are Old Norse only. Devs say they were supposed to reform along with the rest of Scandinavia, and it will be fixed in the next patch. Until then, can someone post how to edit them to become reformed Norse? I would appreciate it, and ponies would smile

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    Quote Originally Posted by XCWLoki View Post
    "own a province" - What province? One of the four you listed?
    Yes, a Norse (Classic or Reformed) ruler needs to own one of those provinces, and it cannot have the Barony listed already in existance. Once the first event fires for the Pope, than it proceds like the Crusader Castles do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsara View Post
    Yes, a Norse (Classic or Reformed) ruler
    Try the cool, refreshing taste of Norse Classic.

    Not sure why, that's just what popped into my head when I read that.

    Glad to hear the Joms are supposed to reform. Seemed odd that you lose your only possible holy order for doing the one thing that can hold off conversion.
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    Lol what? Are they the norse holy order? I didn't know that. They have built some castles in my realm and i thought they were just random adventurer vikings. I pressed county claim on those castles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaahd View Post
    Meh

    Why?

    I feel that most of the events for the Norse are too circumstancial / the requisites are too strict. I haven't seen any duel or any berserker so far. Actually, I haven't seen any event at all except the +2 martial one when raiding, and those instigated by Decisions (Blot / Runestone). And even the Blot triggers always the same two events: the Lustful and Gluttonous ones.
    I have gotten berserjer and jomsvikings

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gingerninja View Post
    Currently they are Old Norse only. Devs say they were supposed to reform along with the rest of Scandinavia, and it will be fixed in the next patch. Until then, can someone post how to edit them to become reformed Norse? I would appreciate it, and ponies would smile
    I am currently trying to, I invited the heir, imprisoned him and forced him to convert to reformed Norse. Then tried to claim the Jomsvikings, didn't work old master still master and he is still my courtier, so now I am trying to kill the current master for him to inherit it as a reformed Norse, will update if this works or not.

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    Stettin is Norse and there is no Kolbatz. I think the same goes for Rugen. I guess it's a different name now that a Norseman owns it because I found no Rugen - instead I found a Rugenwalde. It didn't have the Barony in it.

    Still no Joms.

    Edit: They have appeared, but I don't think you can do anything with them. :-/
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    Quote Originally Posted by XCWLoki View Post
    They have appeared, but I don't think you can do anything with them. :-/
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    Is there something I can edit somewhere to have them show up as a Holy Order for Reformed Norse? I edited the save file to change all mention of the religion in relation to them to norse_reformed, but it didn't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorlem View Post
    Is there something I can edit somewhere to have them show up as a Holy Order for Reformed Norse? I edited the save file to change all mention of the religion in relation to them to norse_reformed, but it didn't work.
    Go into landed_titles.txt, find their titular duchy listed with the rest of the holy orders, and add "religion = norse_pagan_reformed" under "religion = norse_pagan". Do not delete the original line, they should remain available to both reformed and unreformed Norse pagans.
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    Perfect man, thanks! Damn - I hope they add in more "holy orders" for reformed religions.
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