[The Resistance] Statistics and General Discussion Thread

tamius23 · May 9, 2013

Overall

Resistance 29 - 36 Spies

Normal Resistance

Resistance 25 - 29 Spies

Resistance: Avalon

Resistance 4 - 7 Spies

tamius23 · May 9, 2013

Game winners:

aedan777 (27) : 9, 10, 14, 19, 20, 22, 24, 27, 28, 30, 32, 33, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 42, 43, 46, 47, 50, 52, 53, 56, 58, 60, 61

9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62 - 53.8%

Falc (26) : 4, 7, 12, 14, 15, 16, 18, 19, 21, 25, 27, 29, 41, 43, 44, 46, 48, 49, 50, 53, 54, 56, 57, 58, 59

3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 12, 14, 15, 16, 18, 19, 20, 21, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 32, 33, 34, 35, 37, 39, 40, 41, 43, 44, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 61, 62 - 56.5%

Panzer Commader (16): 13, 15, 16, 27, 29, 30, 31, 34, 37, 38, 41, 42, 45, 46, 56, 60

13, 15, 16, 22, 27, 29, 30, 31, 33, 34, 37, 38, 41, 42, 43, 45, 46, 47, 52, 56, 59, 60 - 76.2%

tamius23 (14) : 4, 9, 16, 17, 30, 32, 33, 35, 36, 42, 49, 50, 55, 61

2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 9, 11, 13, 14, 16, 17, 19, 20, 22, 23, 24, 26, 30, 32, 33, 35, 36, 38, 39, 40, 42, 44, 49, 50, 52, 55, 56, 57, 58, 61 - 42.4%

madchemist (10) : 26, 29, 31, 33, 34, 36, 40, 41, 43

22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 28, 29, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 48, 55 - 45.5%

jpr123 (9) : 4, 5, 7, 8, 10, 12, 13, 17, 20

3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 14, 17, 20 - 75.0%

tonkatoy5 (9) : 7, 8, 10, 11, 14, 15, 17, 19, 45

7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 45 - 52.9%

AsdfeZxcas (8) : 8, 18, 19, 20, 22, 24, 27, 43

8, 16, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 24, 27, 43, 60 - 72.7%

gliomarto (7) : 6, 10, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20

4, 5, 6, 7, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 - 46.7%

marty99 (7) : 3, 4, 16, 22, 26, 27, 30

3, 4, 5, 9, 16, 22, 26, 27, 28, 30, 31, 39 - 58.3%

Cliges (7) : 1, 7, 10, 15, 21, 40, 44

1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 17, 21, 22, 27, 28, 40, 41, 43, 44, 45, 47, 55 - 30.4%

Jacksonian Missionary (6) : 45, 49, 50, 54, 56, 57

45, 46, 47, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 56, 57, 58, 61, 62 - 50.0%

Cymsdale (5) : 1, 2, 3, 4, 6

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 - 71.4%

Citizen1oo1 (5) : 5, 9, 10, 12, 15

3, 4, 5, 9, 10, 12, 13, 15, 21, 24 - 50.0%

seamus2008 (5) : 18, 19, 20, 21, 43

18, 19, 20, 21, 43 - 100%

JermanTK (5): 50, 51, 53, 54, 58

48, 49, 50, 51, 53, 54, 56, 57, 58, 60 - 50.0%

Trinitrotoluen (4) : 5, 8, 9, 11

5, 8, 9, 10, 11, 17 - 66.7%

snoopdogg (4) : 28, 30, 31, 32

28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 35 - 66.7%

alxeu (4) : 25, 29, 34, 35

22, 23, 25, 27, 29, 30, 31, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - 36.4%

Ironhead 5 (4): 39, 42, 45, 47

39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 50 - 36.4%

Hazbot (4) : 50, 52, 55, 59

50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 59, 60, 62 - 50.0%

Health (4) : 48, 58, 59, 60

48, 58, 59, 60, 61 - 80.0%

Xarkan (3) : 1, 3, 31

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 30, 31, 32, 34, 35 - 23.1%

randakar (3) : 11, 17, 32

2, 8, 9, 11, 14, 15, 16, 17, 32, 33 - 30.0%

k-59 (3) : 41, 43, 44

41, 42, 43, 44 - 75.0%

deathbywombat (3) : 47, 49, 53

46, 47, 48, 49, 51, 52, 53 - 42.9%

Audren (3) : 46, 48, 58

44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 58 - 37.5%

Tornadoli (3) : 57, 58, 61

57, 58, 59, 61, 62 - 75.0%

esemesas (2) : 1, 2

1, 2, 4 - 66.7%

Kingepyon (2) : 7, 8

1, 2, 7, 8 - 50.0%

Kaisersohaib (2) : 32, 35

32, 33, 34, 35, 36 - 40.0%

Dexander (2): 37, 38

34, 35, 36, 37, 38 - 40.0%

npstr (2) : 55, 56

55, 56, 58 - 100%

AVN (1) : 2

2 - 100%

RepBentley (1) : 4

4 - 100%

Doom Lord (1) : 6

6 - 100%

Capt. Kiwi (1) : 8

6, 8 - 50.0%

sexytoes (1) : 20

19, 20 - 50.0%

Dyranum (1) : 25

25 - 100%

Arkasas (1) : 28

26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 38 - 16.7%

Gen. Marshall (1) : 29

28, 29 - 50.0%

Daffius (1) : 40

40, 46 - 50.0%

Luftwafer (1) : 47

47, 48 - 50.0%

Haresus (1) : 49

49, 50 - 50.0%

Ironhide G1 (1) : 49

45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50 - 16.7%

barkardes (1) : 52

52 - 100%

De Chatillôn (1) : 53

52, 53, 62 - 50.0%

Rovsea (1) : 54

37, 38, 53, 54, 55 - 20.0%

tamius23 · May 9, 2013

Game hosts:

Panzer Commader (17) : 14, 20, 21, 26, 28, 32, 35, 36, 39, 40, 44, 47, 51, 58, 61, 63, 66

tamius23 (15) : 5, 7, 10, 12, 15, 18, 25, 31, 34, 37, 41, 43, 53, 54, 62

Cliges (9) : 3, 4, 9, 16, 19, 24, 29, 42, 56

Falc (8) : 1, 2, 13, 17, 22, 38, 45, 60

madchemist (4): 27, 30, 46, 49

JermanTK (3) : 52, 55, 59

jpr123 (2) : 6, 11

gliomarto (1) : 8
AsdfeZxcas (1) : 23
Xarkan (1) : 33
Jacksonian Missionary (1) : 48
deathbywombat (1) : 50
npstr (1) : 57
BlackCrown (1) : 64
alxeu (1) : 65
marty99 (1) : 67

marty99 · May 9, 2013

I'm listed as having won once, twice, for 3 and 4.

tamius23 · May 9, 2013

Fixed it.

marty99 · May 9, 2013

tamius23 said:
Fixed it.

Cheers! I'm very, very vain, I'll let you know.

randakar · May 9, 2013

I'll repost something I said earlier today here:

For the future: The original text of the plot cards can be found here:

If there is any doubt as to what a specific plot card is *supposed* to do, use these as the canonical source.

marty99 · May 11, 2013

Thanks randy.

The Opinion Maker from our games, which was removed, went like this:

1/2 - Opinion Maker – Permanent Effect – The player to whom the Leader passes this card must publicly Vote for Mission Team selection. This card remains in effect until the end of the game.

This obviously didn't make any sense, as everyone's vote was public anyway. Consequently it was removed.

However the canonical version of the Opinion Maker seems to say that the player with that card must vote before anyone else, if I'm reading it right. Which does make sense.

Falc · May 11, 2013

I sort of removed that bit because it made little sense with everyone being allowed to change their vote anyway.

marty99 · May 11, 2013

Falc said:
I sort of removed that bit because it made little sense with everyone being allowed to change their vote anyway.

Maybe you could have it so that the player with the Opinion Maker is not able to change their vote and must vote first, but everyone else is permitted to change their vote.

I mean, that would add a bit to the game, as in any spy with that card would need to gauge carefully what way to vote as they wouldn't be able to wait and see if a team looks likely to be approved or not. Therefore, they'd have to make a strategic prediction, instead of being able to watch the voting unfold and take advantage of it. It's still a relatively small impact on the game compared to most other cards.

randakar · May 11, 2013

That sounds like a fine idea to me. Though I'd add "has to vote publicly" to that, as well. Making it thus closer to what the original says.
Also, putting that card back into the game removes the entire "what to replace it with" problem as well, in one bold stroke.

jpr123 · May 11, 2013

That could have the effect of slowing down the entire game though.

marty99 · May 11, 2013

Good idea about having to vote publicly, randy.

jpr123 said:
That could have the effect of slowing down the entire game though.

No more than any other immediate use card, though.

Falc · May 13, 2013

I'd like to use this thread to try and store the accepted ruleset, instead of everyone always having to copy/paste it from the previous game.

Cliges · May 16, 2013

I think that game 3 did keep the Opinion Maker, and that Falc's first two games must have had it.

It was in 4 that I replaced them with more of the other cards.

I'd like to use this thread to try and store the accepted ruleset, instead of everyone always having to copy/paste it from the previous game.

It might be a good idea to try and come up with the rules here. For game 3, people were supposed to vote by PM regardless of their stated intention in the thread, but that had to be discarded as most people weren't sending them. I would say that I think that the rules are probably mostly in good shape as it is. Though I do think it's better to have simultaneous team votes and mission resolution, whether or not there is a deadline. And I think I prefer deadlines; if people can abide by them in WW, for example, it's no more difficult for Resistance.

Xarkan · May 16, 2013

Cliges said:
I think that game 3 did keep the Opinion Maker, and that Falc's first two games must have had it.

It was in 4 that I replaced them with more of the other cards.

It might be a good idea to try and come up with the rules here. For game 3, people were supposed to vote by PM regardless of their stated intention in the thread, but that had to be discarded as most people weren't sending them. I would say that I think that the rules are probably mostly in good shape as it is. Though I do think it's better to have simultaneous team votes and mission resolution, whether or not there is a deadline. And I think I prefer deadlines; if people can abide by them in WW, for example, it's no more difficult for Resistance.

Deadlines are a little more difficult in this only because of the multiple phases. You have the handing out of cards, immediate use cards, team proposal, team voting (and hopefully preloaded mission orders). That's at least 4 steps per round.

randakar · May 16, 2013

Xarkan said:
Deadlines are a little more difficult in this only because of the multiple phases. You have the handing out of cards, immediate use cards, team proposal, team voting (and hopefully preloaded mission orders). That's at least 4 steps per round.

Resolving plot cards is just once per mission. Rotating through team proposals after that can be quite quick, especially if mission and team vote phases are done simultaneously.
I think the game 4 system worked quite well. I'm sure there are still some possible kinks with certain plot cards that affect the mission, but in practice that should always be solveable by preloads or the GM simply falling back to seperate team vote and mission phases, as needed.

jpr123 · May 16, 2013

New game of resistance is up. I will be using the same rules as last game, unless people want me to reinstate the opinion maker. I felt last game went along at a decent pace so don't really want to have deadlines especially as I doubt we will have players to sub those who miss them.

Cliges · Jun 7, 2013

To continue discussion from the end of the last game, but move it out of the thread: any ideas on player roles for a cardless version of The Resistance, or any other variations of the rules we have tended to use?

So far, I recall, there have been one time seer scans, rivals from both groups who start off knowing their opposite's identity, false results.

And Falc has considered a best of 7 game.

jpr123 · Jun 7, 2013

Well what are the rules for the avalon version of the game? We could give that a go.

Although I'm quite happy for someone to just host a best of 7 resistance game as well.

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