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hello all, playing my second game (first was sweeden just to learn) and I am playing brasil..started off really slow and struggling until i researched things to improve my farming for my coffee and fruit...now my economy is booming because of this so....
how do i start to transfer to an industrial state? My government wont allow me to make a factory (I can always change that if i need to) so I am NF capitalist and NF factory workers....this is taking forever thought so i was just wondering if i am doing this right or is there something else i should be doing...
thanks
slo
 
What year is it? Industrialisation comes eventually. You could, if you are not a democracy, stick a state capitalist party in power and go from there. I find capis a bit deceiving, if I understand them correct. Essentially, they are poor, and will only get money once there are operational factories. I find industrialising with an interventionist or laisez faire gov't is very tedious. The low litteracy rate doesn't help either. If you NF craftsmen and your rgo's are not full, you might loose some output to this as well. Hopefully, you should attract some clever europeans over and fill your factories once they are opened.

This thread was quite useful. http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?647562-Very-First-game-as-brazil-i-m-totally-lost.&highlight=brazil+aar
 
I'm finding more and more to be the case that what really sparks industrialization is POP-growth meeting RGO shrinkage so that there is unemployment among the poor, which if literacy is high enough leads to craftsmen more than artisans.
 
I'm finding more and more to be the case that what really sparks industrialization is POP-growth meeting RGO shrinkage so that there is unemployment among the poor, which if literacy is high enough leads to craftsmen more than artisans.

Sounds realistic. IRL urbanisation and industrialisation happened when the countryside couldn't give enough jobs to people, so they travelled to urban centres and started working in factories.
 
The hard part about Brazil (and the whole Latin America) is that it doesn't have one single coal province. For that, you'll need to keep tariffs down, as tempting as it might be to rise them. I played several Brazilian games and I never got to really industrialise before 1860;1870. The best strategy is to put Caramurus in power and build a lot of essential goods factories, I mean regular clothes, liquor, regular furniture, subside them, research industries techs, encourage clergymen, get that literacy high ASAP and then try to get as many nice north germans immigrants as possible, since they bring all those 80% literacy dudes. But, really, there is no easy way, industrialisation will come late. Think on the bright side, South America is your little playground, which will give you a lot of action until the end of the 19th century. (Just watch out for Uruguay though, they get a lot of immigrants and tend to "outpop" its large neighbours, including Argentina, Paraguay and, of course, you)