Correct government type penalty for Republics

Negru Voda · Dec 8, 2012

[I assume we'll get clarifications in the Dev Diaries, but for now what do you guys think?]

When playing a landed noble and you'd have a Lord Mayor or Republic as a vassal, you also had to deal with the Incorrect Government Type relations penalty.
I assume the reverse case will also hold? ei: I am a (Serene) Republic and I got noble vassals, with the Incorrect Government Type penalty.
Also, will the bishops get such a penalty or (probably) not?

Sarog · Dec 8, 2012

Bishops probably won't. But it would only make sense if feudal vassals are predisposed towards recalcitrance. You've got a castle and your own army of men at arms. Bending knee to a king is one thing, being sworn to a glorified moneylender is another. Republics should be careful of having too many or too powerful feudal vassals. I think the wrong government penalty should even be more severe than the current one.

Ols · Dec 8, 2012

Sarog said:
Bishops probably won't. But it would only make sense if feudal vassals are predisposed towards recalcitrance. You've got a castle and your own army of men at arms. Bending knee to a king is one thing, being sworn to a glorified moneylender is another. Republics should be careful of having too many or too powerful feudal vassals. I think the wrong government penalty should even be more severe than the current one.

Perhaps more severe for Duchies under Serene Republics. If I was the Count of some place I don't think I'd be able to claim much legitimacy in going against the great Republic that has its seat on the wealthier coastline. Dukes would have more right to stop a Kingdom level Republic from dominating and instead confine them to the coastline where they belong.

Andaries · Dec 8, 2012

You can see the incorrect government penalty for republics right now if they have none republic vassals.

Negru Voda · Dec 8, 2012

Ols said:
Perhaps more severe for Duchies under Serene Republics. If I was the Count of some place I don't think I'd be able to claim much legitimacy in going against the great Republic that has its seat on the wealthier coastline. Dukes would have more right to stop a Kingdom level Republic from dominating and instead confine them to the coastline where they belong.

Or maybe single province coastal counts on coasts should be obedient?

Andaries said:
You can see the incorrect government penalty for republics right now if they have none republic vassals.

Yea, but I'm thinking they might revise this after the patch and new mechanics.

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Correct government type penalty for Republics

Negru Voda

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Sarog

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Ols

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Andaries

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Negru Voda

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