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    Small Details in United States

    According to this mod, Florida is currently a slave state and Iowa is a colonial province to the US. Not very important, but just thought I'd mention it.

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    Lightbulb Suggestions!

    A suggestion. Canned food should be called "MREs" (Meals Ready-to-Eat). Not (Processed Food).

    Also Craftsmen should be called Blue Collar. I should now I'm Form Michigan.

    Blue Collar: Is a member of the working class who performs manual labor. Blue-collar work may involve skilled or unskilled, manufacturing, mining, construction, mechanical, maintenance, technical installation and many other types of physical work. Often something is physically being built or maintained.

    1 more thing. It was talked about a long time ago about North Korea's color. I think a nice grey with do!

    Nice mod I'm really looking forward to it!
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    Blue collar seems a little too inclusive since the term is usually applies to most non-professional workers and sometimes even people who don't make a minimum amount of money. For instance, both blue and white collar are commonly used to contrast the upper and low classes, the educated workers and the uneducated workers, or those who perform physical tasks and those who work in offices and other in-door environments.

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    How will mass unemployment be avoided when real world pop data is used?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZomgK3tchup View Post
    Blue collar seems a little too inclusive since the term is usually applies to most non-professional workers and sometimes even people who don't make a minimum amount of money. For instance, both blue and white collar are commonly used to contrast the upper and low classes, the educated workers and the uneducated workers, or those who perform physical tasks and those who work in offices and other in-door environments.
    But it's not like that any more. A Blue collar job can be anything form a Poor, Lower middle class to Upper middle class. And with or with out educated workers! Blue collar usually refers to Industrial type jobs sometime with and without manual labor. It's kinda mix these days.
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    If you haven't found a solution yet to populations, would it work to disable assimilation all together than have periodic events to convert cultures into half-way cultures between culture groups, than have less often events that turn them into the primary culture?
    E.G.: Mexican immigrants get into Texas somehow. -> After a period of two~four years, convert 50% of that pop into a Hispanic-American culture. -> After five~ten years, convert 20% of that pop into the dominant culture of that region: so, if the dominant culture is Hispanic-American, they'd stay that; if it was Dixie, that'd assimilate to Dixie; if it was Yankee, it'd assimilate to Yankee?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildbillhdmax01 View Post
    A suggestion. Canned food should be called "MREs" (Meals Ready-to-Eat). Not (Processed Food).

    Instead, I would suggest something like "rations" - MREs seem more restricted to countries with advanced militaries, not that I'm an authority - just a thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fryslan0109 View Post
    Instead, I would suggest something like "rations" - MREs seem more restricted to countries with advanced militaries, not that I'm an authority - just a thought.
    Damn that's true. But so was canned food.
    It has been said that history repeats itself.

    “The more you know about the past, the better prepared you are for the future.” ~ Teddy Roosevelt
    “A generation which ignores history has no past and no future.” ~ Robert Heinlein
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    “What is history? An echo of the past in the future; a reflex from the future on the past” ~ Victor Hugo
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    Panama army Active personnel 12,000
    Panama Air force
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    ENAER T-35 Pillan Chile Trainer, reconnaissance B, D 6
    CASA C-212 Aviocar Spain Tactical transport 300 5
    Britten Norman Islander United Kingdom Tactical light transport 2A 1
    Bell 205 United States Utility and transport 15
    Bell 212 United States Utility and transport 6
    Sikorsky S-76 United States VIP transport C 2
    Piper PA-34 Seneca United States Utility and transport 2
    Cessna 152 United States Utility 1
    Cessna 172 United States Utility 1
    Grumman Gulfstream II United States VIP transport II 1

    Panama has no navy

    Costa Rica has no army nor navy it has 11 aircraft and that's it.

    Nicaragua Army 14,000 Nicaragua Navy A few patrol boats is all I could find. Nicaraguan air force 30 aircraft.

    Honduras army active personal 20,000 Honduras navy 51 ships mainly patrol boats
    The Honduran navy has 4 naval bases:
    Base Naval Puerto Cortés - main repair and logistics base on the Caribbean Sea
    Base Naval Puerto Castilla - main operating base of patrol boats on the Caribbean Sea
    Base Naval Amapala- main operating base of coastal patrol craft on the north end of the island and only base on the Pacific Ocean side of Honduras
    Base Naval Caratasca - new base to deal with drug trafficking
    Honduras Aircraft 11 ex-USAF OA/A-37B Dragonflies, 12 ex-USAF Northrop F-5E/F Tiger II interceptors, 12 new Embraer T-27 Tucano armed trainers and four new CASA 101BB-02 attack airplanes; and supported with five ex-USAF Lockheed C-130A Hercules transports; and five armed MD500D and 10 new Bell 412SP utility helicopters.

    El Salvador army 17,000. Navy 3 patrol boats. Air force 76 aircraft.

    Guatemala military Special forces
    The Guatemalan army has a special forces unit (specializing in anti-insurgent jungle warfare) known as the Kaibiles.

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    Military age: 18 years of age
    Males aged 15 to 49: 3,186,894 (2002 est.)
    Males fit for military service aged 15 to 49: 2,080,504 (2002 est.)
    Males reaching military age annually: 140,358 (2002 est.)

    Air force
    ~92 aircraft

    Belize Army Active personnel Approx 1050 (2012) Reserve personnel 700 (2012) Air craft 3 transport 1 basic training aircraft. Navy cannot find any info.

    Mexico army 259,770(2011 est.) (ranked 28 of 166). Navy The Mexican Navy includes 60 smaller patrol boats and 32 auxiliary ships. It acquired 40 fast military assault crafts, designated CB 90 HMN although these stats are from 1999 to 2001 these are still viable.

    Air force 11,770 personnel Approx. 363 aircraft.

    Cuba army 85,000 (2011 est.)

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    122 mm artillery.
    M-1931/3 artillery.
    130 mm: M-46 artillery.
    152 mm: M-1937 artillery.
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    The border guards have: 2 Stenka class patrol boats and 30/48 Zhuk patrol craft. Cuba makes Zhuk patrol craft and some are seen with an SPG-9 mounted on front of the twin 30mm guns

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    Current total
    Combat aircraft
    Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21 Fishbed USSR fighter----trainer MiG-21MF ---- MiG-21UM 60----10 7----5
    Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-23 Flogger USSR fighter----multirole fighter----trainer MiG-23MF/MS ---- MiG-23ML ---- MiG-23UB 21----21----5 19----21----2
    Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29 Fulcrum USSR fighter----multirole fighter----trainer MiG-29B----MiG-29UB 14----2 5----1
    Mil Mi-8 Hip USSR transport/attack helicopter Mi-8T----Mi-8TKV 20----20 10----10
    Mil Mi-17 Hip-H Russia transport/attack helicopter Mi-17 34 20
    Mil Mi-24 Hind USSR attack Mi-24D 25 20
    Antonov An-24 Coke USSR/Ukraine cargo An-24 20 4
    Antonov An-26 Curl USSR cargo An-26 17 3
    Yakovlev Yak-40 Codling USSR VIP Yak-40 8 3
    Ilyushin Il-62 USSR VIP Il-62 1 1
    Ilyushin Il-96 Russia VIP Il-96 3 3
    Aero L-39 Albatros Czechoslovakia trainer/attack L-39C 30 8
    Zlin Z-326 Czechoslovakia trainer Z-326T 60 20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fryslan0109 View Post
    Instead, I would suggest something like "rations" - MREs seem more restricted to countries with advanced militaries, not that I'm an authority - just a thought.
    Furthermore, I think canned foods should be used by civilians as well. In fact, it might be the main source of food needs (with some artisan/factory production from various other foods into processed food). In that case, MRE doesn't really work (nor do rations). Technological advances in food production are no longer as big a difference in military logistics.
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    I dont know how long the timespan in this mod is but add what happened today and maybe give Russia some research point (or an option for the goverment to pay all the broken windows or smth)

    Could be like:
    Pay the windows: -50000$ and -1 mil in that region
    or dont pay: get +1 mil in that region

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valtegro View Post
    I dont know how long the timespan in this mod is but add what happened today and maybe give Russia some research point (or an option for the goverment to pay all the broken windows or smth)

    Could be like:
    Pay the windows: -50000$ and -1 mil in that region
    or dont pay: get +1 mil in that region
    What happen?
    It has been said that history repeats itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildbillhdmax01 View Post
    What happen?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mqe-Fxgly4&
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPXXkq4c6OI
    Meteor exploding over some region in Russia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gloa View Post
    Furthermore, I think canned foods should be used by civilians as well. In fact, it might be the main source of food needs (with some artisan/factory production from various other foods into processed food). In that case, MRE doesn't really work (nor do rations). Technological advances in food production are no longer as big a difference in military logistics.
    Processed Food probably makes the most sense, given that its a major industry in most countries and cans are a factory that most countries end up building a couple under AI control atleast under vanilla. Military only food doesnt really fit in terms of being one of the main industries of a place.
    Or just leave it as cans, cans are still pretty important especially if it was made the base everyday need of poor pops, with gain and fruit moved to everyday for the middle and upper classes and only a luxury for the lower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valtegro View Post
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    So, how's this coming along OP?

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    Will pops ever be fixed for this mod? They are horribly wrong in most provinces (i.e. most of Poland is German).

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    Arkhometha said he will be getting to that and after I am done the military research I will be helping him with pop statistics.
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    Arkhometha said he will be getting to that and after I am done the military research I will be helping him with pop statistics.
    Haven't seen any updates in a month almost, just wonder if this is still getting worked on or not.

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    Oman’s military manpower totalled 44,100 in 2006, including 25,000 men in the army, 4,200 sailors in the navy, and an air force with 4,100 personnel. The Royal Household maintained 5,000 Guards, 1,000 in Special Forces, 150 sailors in the Royal Yacht fleet, and 250 pilots and ground personnel in the Royal Flight squadrons. Oman also maintains a modest-sized paramilitary force of 4,400 men.

    The Royal Army of Oman had 25,000 active personnel in 2006, plus a small contingent of Royal Household troops. Despite a comparative large military spending, it has been relatively slow to modernize its forces. Oman has a relatively limited number of tanks, including 6 M60A1, 73 M60A3, and 38 Challenger 2 main battle tanks, as well as 37 ageing Scorpion light tanks.

    The Royal Air Force of Oman has approximately 4,100 men, with only 36 combat aircraft and no armed helicopters. Combat aircraft include 20 ageing Jaguars, 12 Hawk MK203s, 4 MK102 Hawk 103s, and 12 PC-9 turboprop trainers with a limited combat capability. It has one squadron of 12 F-16C/D aircraft. Oman also has 4 A202-18 Bravos, and 8 MFI-17B Mushshaqs.

    The Royal Navy of Oman had 4,200 men in 2000, and is headquartered at Seeb. It has bases at Ahwi, Ghanam Island, Mussandam and Salalah. In 2006, Oman had 10 surface combat vessels. These included two 1,450-ton Qahir class corvettes, and 8 ocean-going patrol boats. The Omani Navy had one 2,500-ton Nasr al Bahr class LSL (240 troops, 7 tanks) with a helicopter deck. Oman also had at least four landing craft. Oman ordered three Khareef-class corvettes from the VT Group for £400 million in 2007. They are being built at Portsmouth.

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    United Arab Emirates Marines - The UAE maintains a small battalion sized marine force called the UAE Marines. It is equipped with BMP-3s.
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    This all for today school is being a pain endless work.( Yes school but just because of that doesn't mean I am stupid ).
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