Underdog scenarios are always fascinating.
The 867 start also shines a spotlight on the infamous Anarchy at Samarra. Some have even called it the beginning of the end of the Abbasid Caliphate.
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Underdog scenarios are always fascinating.
The 867 start also shines a spotlight on the infamous Anarchy at Samarra. Some have even called it the beginning of the end of the Abbasid Caliphate.
I've tried this and its almost impossible. Not only does your liege hate you, One of the other dukes has a de jure claim on your county, and he won't hesitate to press it, and you
can't swear fealty to him because you yourself are a (titular) duke. The only chance I've had is to start a faction for independence immediately and hope some of the other dukes join it.
The list could use some more pagan characters, is Erik the Heathen really the only interesting pre-old gods pagan character to play?
There have been plenty of suggestions, I just haven't had the time to add them to the front page yet. 
Well I'd expect Erik the Heathen is the only pagan character in 1066 people are intimately familiar with, sure you have the Lithuanians and the Old Prussians which could be fun but I don't know the names of the lords I just mentioned
There's also Kruto of Mecklenburg and (for a later start date) Genghis Khan, both of whom I've suggested but the list hasn't updated with yet. Plenty of other interesting historical figures in the game too, along with some where the state or tribe is known but the rulers' name is lost to history and Paradox made one up instead. But I haven't tried most of them out. (That said, Vasterbotten or Angermanland could be fun. Like Erik the Heathen, but much harder - have to form Norrland, THEN swear to and usurp Sweden.)
1337: Stefan Uros IV 'the Mighty' of Serbia. He starts out with a huge chunk of the Balkans and goes on to conquer more. Serbia would eventually be conquered during his son's reign.
A suggestion for an unlanded character: Omar Khayyam is in the Hashimid court at the beginning of the game. I'm fairly sure it is the actual, historical Omar Khayyam, even though his stats are somewhat mediocre. Creating a dynasty of hedonistic mathematician-poets could be quiet fun .
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I thought that too to first, but the only reason it looks like this is because there are no cool Catholic heresies to play as.
I WILL update this by Friday. And I'll have a look for some heretic Catholic characters.
A suggestion for an unlanded character: Omar Khayyam is in the Hashimid court at the beginning of the game. I'm fairly sure it is the actual, historical Omar Khayyam, even though his stats are somewhat mediocre. Creating a dynasty of hedonistic mathematician-poets could be quiet fun
Which Hashimid court? There is one in Medina and one in Derbent...
The fun thing about Protestantism is that if you meet another Protestant, he's very likely to be a of a slightly different group and hence a terrible heretic.
Catholics don't have that issue as much.
I looked all over the south of France throughout the Albigensian Crusade, and I couldn't find so much as a Cathar Count :-/
Well up to 1499 the Pope had control of the Staff of Eden. Heretics simply didnt stand a chance. It is known.
Derbent, IIRC. Just search for him on the character list when you start the game, that'll tell you.
The fun thing about Protestantism is that if you meet another Protestant, he's very likely to be a of a slightly different group and hence a terrible heretic.
I couldn't have written that better myself.
Grigor Pahlavuni, Count of Vaspurakan, 15 Sep 1066
I think he's the same person as Grigor II 'Ykayaser' or 'Martyrophile'. He's the son of one of the lucky Armenians who were granted titles by the Byzantine emperor after the Byzantine conquest of Armenia. Grigor was Catholicos of the Armenian Apostolic Church IRL and never had great ambitions, but in the game, you have the opportunity of trying to gain revenge. If Byzantium survives the Seljuk invasion successfully (which is luck of the draw and you can't really influence it other than raising your paltry levies), the fun starts! Try to expand within the Empire and when you are ready, wait for an opportunity and then break free to establish an independent Kingdom of Armenia under the Miaphysite faith. Try to do so before Armenia is culturally and religiously assimilated into the Greek Orthodox Byzantine Empire! It will not be easy - it is hard to find allies as an Armenian Miaphysite, and if the Emperor doesn't like you, he can start revoking any ducal titles you may have without penalty. I recommend attempting this under the newest version CK2+, where an enhanced faction system prevents imperial authority from climbing too high and where cultural assimilation has been slowed down massively.
I think he's the same person as Grigor II 'Ykayaser' or 'Martyrophile'. He's the son of one of the lucky Armenians who were granted titles by the Byzantine emperor after the Byzantine conquest of Armenia. Grigor was Catholicos of the Armenian Apostolic Church IRL and never had great ambitions, but in the game, you have the opportunity of trying to gain revenge. If Byzantium survives the Seljuk invasion successfully (which is luck of the draw and you can't really influence it other than raising your paltry levies), the fun starts! Try to expand within the Empire and when you are ready, wait for an opportunity and then break free to establish an independent Kingdom of Armenia under the Miaphysite faith. Try to do so before Armenia is culturally and religiously assimilated into the Greek Orthodox Byzantine Empire! It will not be easy - it is hard to find allies as an Armenian Miaphysite, and if the Emperor doesn't like you, he can start revoking any ducal titles you may have without penalty. I recommend attempting this under the newest version CK2+, where an enhanced faction system prevents imperial authority from climbing too high and where cultural assimilation has been slowed down massively.