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• Nov 7, 2012

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I'm certain its been asked before but would it be correct game mechanics-wise to change the status of Gran Colombia to a cultural union rather than a seperate entity nation state? Or was it that distinguishable from its successor states?

Playing as Venezuela to gain greatpowership but my neighbor Colombia is being attacked by 'Gran Colombian Nationalists' - not sure if that's the correct manner of implementation.

 

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• Nov 8, 2012

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It's an oversight. Simply put, there shouldn't be any gran colombian cores. But, since there are, gran colombia should be a union tag.

 

Ayetach

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• Nov 8, 2012

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Well it was officially disbanded in 1831 so that seems more reasonable than say... Babylon

 

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• Nov 8, 2012

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Babylon is a joke.

Gran Colombia never existed. Really those should be Colombia cores and the country currently called Colombia should be New Granada.

Then Colombian nationalists taking over New Granada would make sense.:rofl:

 

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• Nov 8, 2012

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Closet Skeleton said:

Gran Colombia never existed.

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Actually...

 

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My point was that either you have cultural union cores or no cores at all. This is an oversight, really.

 

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• Nov 8, 2012

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Ayetach said:

Actually...

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Read that article.

A big Colombia existed. Not the same as a state called 'Gran Colombia'.

 

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• Nov 8, 2012

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Closet Skeleton said:

Read that article.

A big Colombia existed. Not the same as a state called 'Gran Colombia'.

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Yes, It was just called Gran Colombia to differentiate it from modern-day Colombia.

 

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• Nov 9, 2012

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I'm Colombian, well a Colombian citizen, but born in the USA to Colombian parents. Gran Colombia was never known in its day as "Gran Colombia", just the republic of Colombia. Kind of like the Eastern Roman Empire,. how in its day no one called it the Byzantine Empire, but later on historians decided to call it by another name and it stuck. Northern South America is trash anyway, not sure why anyone would try to unite it lol.

 

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• Nov 9, 2012

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hannibal_barca said:

not sure why anyone would try to unite it lol.

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Weak opposition.

 

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• Nov 9, 2012

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Closet Skeleton said:

Read that article.

A big Colombia existed. Not the same as a state called 'Gran Colombia'.

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Yes I did.

...This short-lived republic included the territories of present-day Colombia, Venezuela, Ecuador, Panama, northern Peru and northwest Brazil. The first three were the successor states to Gran Colombia at its dissolution...

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It was in fact a legitimate predecessor state to Equador, Colombia, Panama, Venezuela, and Northwestern Brazil. In any case, USCA doesn't have a cultural union either so either its WAD or the devs missed this - I'm willing to bet the former since they were states that evolved into smaller successor states and the game reflects that more or less.

 

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Gran Colombia means big colombia, more or less. It's the same thing, you guys.

 

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• Nov 9, 2012

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moldeh said:

Gran Colombia means big colombia, more or less. It's the same thing, you guys.

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Gran in Spanish, as in Italian, is the way the adjective "grande" is written if it comes before the singular noun as opposed to after it. Gran Colombia=Colombia Grande. Grande meaning big/grand. Hence the name of El Rio Grande on the border of Mexico and the US. If used in "Gran" it has more of a connotation of grandeur/majesty. Like Alejandro el Magno/El grande.

 

Last edited: Nov 9, 2012

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• Nov 9, 2012

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hannibal_barca said:

Gran in Spanish, as in Italian, is the way the adjective "grande" is written if it comes before the singular noun as opposed to after it. Gran Colombia=Colombia Grande. Grande meaning big/grand. Hence the name of El Rio Grande on the border of Mexico and the US. If used in "Gran" it has more of a connotation of grandeur/majesty. Like Alejandro el Magno/El grande.

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Okay so its like referring it as a Grand state of (moreso than greater) Colombia more or less... interesting.