I think maybe Black Ice has made it impossible to allow the AI control of your units. Player control would probably give somewhat better results.
Bringing the Gebirgsjagers west is probably a good idea, but I didn't do it and am now playing in March. Possible breach of the Soviet NA Pact starts in July. I really don't want to fight on two fronts, so they can stay there for now.
This will be a tough fight. No easy wins for me.
I think maybe Black Ice has made it impossible to allow the AI control of your units. Player control would probably give somewhat better results.
I think maybe Black Ice has made it impossible to allow the AI control of your units. Player control would probably give somewhat better results.
Still time to exchange your garrison forces then, send the militia east and the engineers west, or just send the engineering brigades west.
Then this wouldn't be as interesting! its easy as a human to overrun the AI even with bad division composition.
Will you restructure your army to INF, INF in preparation for Barbarossa?For years I have relied on the weight of my three INF divs to eirher smash through or hold off the enemy.
Will you restructure your army to INF, INF in preparation for Barbarossa?
I actually did somewhat the same in my current campaign (first time TFH) going INF, INF, INF, ART as I always have... Quite oblivious to the fine information presented in the interface
Immediately after Poland I restructured my army to INF, INF, ART - with the intention to add an AT for Barbarossa.
This being my first TFH game, I don't play with any mods. I also have AI at Army level - except my zbV (special purpose - mostly marines and paratroopers). I control the navy though.
With our playstyles being similar, I'm learning from your mistakes, so please keep informing us - it's greatly appreciated!
[B][SIZE=4]Unternehmen Glückslee[/SIZE][/B]
[B]Finalised Battles for the period 25th to 31st January 1940[/B]
Steenswijk 24 (63,262) 633 (18,446) [F]
Dinant 202 (34,130) 607 (35,116) [F]
2nd Dinant 2 (16,748) 50 (26,488) [F25/B25]
Turnhout 59 (26,492) 183 (33,086) [B]
2nd Turnhout 205 (26,484) 1,104 (46,148) [F368/B736]
Hasselt 887 (114,933) 164 (49,983) [B]
Amersfoort 173 (80,937) 924 (14,990) [D]
2nd Amersfoort 1 (26,978) 3 (17,290) [D]
French 1,633
Belgian 1,108
Dutch 927
Total 1,553 3,668
[B]Bombing Summary for the period 25th to 31st January 1940[/B]
‘s Hertogenbosch Luftflotte IV 13, 23 [4F, 2D]
SLF I 15, Nil, 24
LF III 7, 24
Total 106 [F72/D34]
Dinant Schlachtluftflotte II 11 [F]
SLF I 40, 34 [F]
Total 86 [F]
Hasselt LF III 35, 30 [B]
LF II + SLF II 24, 57 [B]
LF II 17, 59, 35, 19 [B]
SLF I 20, 60 [B]
SLF I + V 80 [B]
Total 436 [B]
Turnhout LF VII 19, 56 [B]
SLF I 11, 33 [B]
Total 119 [B]
Sedan SLF II 10 [5UK, 8F, 2D]
SF II 42, 62
LF VII + SF II 23, 38, 68, 28, 37, 39
Total 347 [F185/D46/UK116]
French 343
Belgian 555
Dutch 80
British 116
Total 1,094
Unternhemen Glücksklee German Losses 1,553 (Ground) + Nil (Bombing) = 1,533
Unternehmen Glücksklee French Losses 1,633 + 343 = 1,976
Unternehmen Glücksklee Belgian Losses 1,108 + 555 = 1,663
Unternehmen Glücksklee Dutch Losses 927 + 80 = 1,007
Unternehmen Glücksklee Lux. Losses Nil + Nil = Nil
Unternehmen Glückslee British Losses Nil + 116 = 116
Total 3,668 + 1,094 = 4,762
[B][SIZE=4]Unternehmen Glücksklee Cumulative Losses[/SIZE][/B]
German Ground Losses 1,553 + 26,615 = 28,168
German Bombing Losses Nil + 357 = 357
German Total Losses 1,553 + 26,972= 28,525
French Ground Losses 1,633 + 32,073 = 33,706
French Bombing Losses 343 + 3,007 = 3,350
French Total Losses 1,976 + 35,080 = 37,056
Belgian Ground Losses 1,108 + 9,256 = 10,364
Belgian Bombing Losses 555 + 3,839 = 4,394
Belgian Total Losses 1,663 + 13,095 = 14,758
Dutch Ground Losses 927 + 7,491 = 8,418
Dutch Bombing Losses 80 + 5,057 = 5,137
Dutch Total Losses 1,007 + 12,548 = 13,555
Lux. Ground Losses Nil + 1,148 = 1,148
Lux. Bombing Losses Nil + 159 = 159
Lux. Total Losses Nil + 1,307 = 1,307
British Ground Losses Nil + 146 = 146
British Bombing Losses 116 + 348 = 464
Total British Losses 116 + 494 = 610
Allied Ground Losses 33,706 + 10,364 + 8,418 + 1,148 + 146 = 53,782
Allied Bombing Losses 3,350 + 4,394 + 5,057 + 159 + 464 = 13,504
Total Allied Losses 37,056 + 14,758 + 13,555 + 1,307 + 610 = 67,286
[B][SIZE=4]Overall Casualties to date[/SIZE][/B]
German Fall Weiß 72,527 + 1,587 = 74,114
Westwall 3,490 + 2,571 = 6,061
Unternehmen Glücksklee 28,168 + 357 = 28,525
Total German Losses 104,185 + 4,515 = [B] 108,700[/B]
Polish Losses Fall Weiß 126,753 + 42,856 = 169,609
French Losses Westwall 15,285 + Nil = 15,285
Glücksklee 33,706 + 3,350 = 37,056
Total French Losses 48,991 + 3,350 = 52,341
Belgian Losses Glücksklee 10,364 + 4,394 = 14,758
Dutch Losses Glücksklee 8,418 + 5,137 = 13,555
Lux. Losses Glückslee 1,148 + 159 = 1,307
British Losses Westwall 887 + Nil = 887
Glücksklee 146 + 464 = 610
Total British Losses 1,033 + 464 = 1,497
Total Allied Losses 169,609 + 52,341 + 14,758 + 13,555 + 1,307 + 1,497 = 253,067
[B][SIZE=4]War at Sea[/SIZE][/B]
Current Prior Total
[B]U-boat losses[/B] Nil 2 2
[B]Convoy losses[/B] French Nil 5 5
British Nil 5 5
Canadian Nil 1 1
Dutch Nil 3 3
New Zealand Nil 1 1
Total Allied Nil 15 15
German Nil 4 4
[B]Escort losses[/B] British 1 Nil 1
[B]Warship Losses[/B]
Destroyer British Nil 1 1
German Nil 1 1
Light Cruiser German Nil 1 1
British Nil 1 1
Just to be on the safe side, you should take out the partial swastika in the Heinkel factory.
I fear that "gap" in the enemy lines will lead to nothing - Offensive AI is too slow and defensive AI too fast for the attacker to exploit a breakthrough. You might (just might) cut enemy forces in half Battle of the Bulge-style, though. In any case, you should look at this from the bright side. Allied losses are still 2,5x greater than yours!
What is Hauptmann Werner up to? He hasn't thrown himself into any nasty situations for a while... He isn't becoming a sensible man, is he?!
(Damn, Avindian, you have eyes like a hawk)
Binary divisions? The Italian High Command is surely congratulating themselves, , finally a mod gives them the reason... I have instaled yesterday the 2.0 version of black ice, but I think I`ll wait a few and see how the inf-inf divisions do before converting mines
Liege looks weakly held, so it might be a good target right now. Taking it will open all up as there will be no realistic line before Paris after that.
Regarding division composition I've moved to Solo divisions, 1 inf and 3 support for Black ICE, giving all divisions between 25 and 35 combined arms bonus around Barbarossa. A huge manpower and IC saver, the mot, mech and arm are all being expanded to 5 regiments/battalions for extra power and CA bonus.
This way you can triple your starting infantry division for Barbarossa, the same can be done with the starting light armour, split them, upgrade to arm/H.Arm(H.Arm is support) and build some extra support for each.
The best units are however:
The LSSA is up to 61.6% CAB due to 23.1% battlemaster bonus.
Wiking has 50.6,
Das Reich has 51.6,
Totenkopf only has 38.5% with no battlemaster bonus.
I don't think I can bring myself to make one brigade divisions. I always worry about casualties, and I have noticed that weak divsions get badly punished when attacked in force - several thousand dead in days.
Thanks for the info re divisonal CA bonuses (boni?) I only just realised that some units had inherent advantages in BI, but had never looked into it. That would explain why LSSAH performs so well.
An update ends with the prospect of a breakthrough, the next one ends in stalemate, then a breakthrough. I think I am starting to see a pattern here. Hopefully the AI will finally see the light and we can get the show on the road.
I have seen these losses too, but they are not much different from 2 brigade division as they usually are result of bad start odds that the AI apparently ignores regardless of the composition. Anyway as you play on normal/normal you have 30% more IC and 100% more manpower than I have in my game here so you should have enough of both to make all divisions binary. The armour as binary might be a bit expensive though
I don't think there is a special bonus to it, but the CA for all its components are all up to date and the chain of command contains lots of battle masters(5%) and battle experts(10%) half that for corps and 1/8 battle master for the AG commander. It contributes 23.1%for leaders, base is 4.5% and from tech 34% for a total of 61.6%. The composition of the LSSAH is not optimal for CA purposes as it would have benefittet from an engineer instead of one Panzer Grenadier regiment, which would increase base+tech to 42% for overall 65.1. Commando brigade would for me give even 1% more than engineer. Also in my version it has 5 brigades, don't know if that is different from the 1.6.4 version.
Also you should check that the tech research in your version works, save the game and open the console and write 'tag USA' to change to the US, check if it has around 15% research allocated to nation and industry. There is a bug in 2.0.1 that prevents that research except at the very start of the game.
i checked the USA and nothing for Nation/Industry. USSR does, so am I right in assuming it is only the USA? Other than manually changing the save game, any workarounds? (I haven't seen a thread on this).
No problem, but just FYI that must be a Black Ice thing then. Because in vanilla TFH, ART is Artillery and AT is Direct Fire (with the last two groups being Armored and Support) - so I do get CA bonus, and a potentially important high Piercing attack.Don't use an AT - it is in the same group as ART so you won't get a Combined Arms bonus.
[B]Finalised Battles for the period 1st to 7th February 1940[/B]
Steenwijk 1,836 (72,292) 386 (29,286) [F258/D128]
Heerenveen 177 (120,313) 2,664 (60,431) [F1,998/D666]
Turnhout 4 (24,480) 11 (24,262) [B]
Hasselt 1,753 (106,934) 249 (49,928) [B]
Sedan 1,175 (108,715) 121 (91,494) [UK40/F64/D17]
Sarreguinnes 64 (18,992) 0 (94,098) [F]
2nd Sarreguinnes 50 (12,288) 0 (93,741) [F]
Saarbrücken 0 (32,277) 300 (19,492) [F]
Betuwe 3,481 (181,882) 4,056 (103,662) [D2,434/F1,622]
French 4,242
Belgian 260
Dutch 3,245
British 40
Total [B]8,540[/B] [B]7,787[/B]
[B]Bombing Summary for the period 1st to 7th February 1940[/B]
[I]Luftwaffe[/I]
Hasselt Luftflotte II 12, 3 (15) [B]
SLF I + LF II 50, 29 (79) [B]
Sedan Schlachtluftflotte II 22, 18, 47, 24, 39 (150)
SLF II + V 46, 92 (138)
LF III 25, 11, 41, 31 (108)
LF VII 13, 30, 8 (51)
Total 447 [UK149/D59/F239]
‘s Hertogenbosch LF VII 23, 3, 4, 26 (56)
SLF V 14, 31 (45)
Total 100 [F67/D34]
Philippeville SLF II 25, 24, 27, 53, 40 (169) [B]
SLF II + V 14, 75, 44, 46 (179)
SLF V 21, 59, 35 (115)
Liege LF II 6, 38, 18 (62) [B]
Leuven SLF II 33, 20, 14 (67) [B]
French 306
Belgian 686
Dutch 93
British 149
Total [B]1,234[/B]
[I]L’Armee de l’Air[/I]
Dinant Laurens (TAC) 8, 3
Odic (2 x TAC, NAV) 20
[I]Belgian Air Force[/I]
Hasselt Wouters (2 x TAC) 0, 14, Abort
Total [B]45[/B]
[B][SIZE=4]Unternehmen Glückslee[/SIZE][/B]
Unternhemen Glücksklee German Losses 8,540 (Ground) + 45 (Bombing) = 8,585
Unternehmen Glücksklee French Losses 4,242 + 306 = 4,548
Unternehmen Glücksklee Belgian Losses 260 + 686 = 946
Unternehmen Glücksklee Dutch Losses 3,245 + 93 = 3,338
Unternehmen Glücksklee Lux. Losses Nil + Nil = Nil
Unternehmen Glückslee British Losses 40 + 149 = 189
Total 7,787 + 1,234 = 9,021
[B]Unternehmen Glücksklee Cumulative Losses[/B]
German Ground Losses 8,540 + 28,168 = 36,708
German Bombing Losses 45 + 357 = 402
German Total Losses 8,585 + 28,525 = 37,110
French Ground Losses 4,242 + 33,706 = 37,948
French Bombing Losses 306 + 3,350 = 3,656
French Total Losses 4,548 + 37,056 = 41,604
Belgian Ground Losses 260 + 10,364 = 10,624
Belgian Bombing Losses 686 + 4,394 = 5,080
Belgian Total Losses 946 + 14,758 = 15,704
Dutch Ground Losses 3,245 + 8,418 = 11,663
Dutch Bombing Losses 93 + 5,137 = 5,230
Dutch Total Losses 3,338 + 13,555 = 16,893
Lux. Ground Losses Nil + 1,148 = 1,148
Lux. Bombing Losses Nil + 159 = 159
Lux. Total Losses Nil + 1,307 = 1,307
British Ground Losses 40 + 146 = 186
British Bombing Losses 149 + 464 = 613
Total British Losses 189 + 610 = 799
Allied Ground Losses 37,948 + 10,624 + 11,663 + 1,148 + 186 = 61,569
Allied Bombing Losses 3,656 + 5,080 + 5,230 + 159 + 613 = 14,738
Total Allied Losses 41,604 + 15,704 + 16,893 + 1,307 + 799 = 76,307
[B][SIZE=4]Overall Casualties to date[/SIZE][/B]
German Fall Weiß 72,527 + 1,587 = 74,114
Westwall 3,490 + 2,571 = 6,061
Unternehmen Glücksklee 36,708 + 402 = 37,110
Total German Losses 112,725 + 4,560 = 117,285
Polish Losses Fall Weiß 126,753 + 42,856 = 169,609
French Losses Westwall 15,285 + Nil = 15,285
Glücksklee 37,948 + 3,656 = 41,604
Total French Losses 53,233 + 3,656 = 56,889
Belgian Losses Glücksklee 10,624 + 5,080 = 15,704
Dutch Losses Glücksklee 11,663 + 5,230 = 16,893
Lux. Losses Glückslee 1,148 + 159 = 1,307
British Losses Westwall 887 + Nil = 887
Glücksklee 186 + 613 = 799
Total British Losses 1,073 + 613 = 1,686
Total Allied Losses 169,609 + 56,889 + 15,704 + 16,893 + 1,307 + 1,686 = 262,088
[B][SIZE=4]War at Sea[/SIZE][/B]
Current Prior Total
U-boat losses Nil 2 2
Convoy losses French Nil 5 5
British Nil 5 5
Canadian Nil 1 1
Dutch Nil 3 3
New Zealand Nil 1 1
Total Allied Nil 15 15
German Nil 4 4
Escort losses British Nil 1 1
Dutch 1 Nil 1
[B]Warship Losses[/B]
Destroyer British Nil 1 1
German Nil 1 1
Light Cruiser German Nil 1 1
British Nil 1 1