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    [TFH] Costs of Covert Operations.

    How do you, dear forum-users, use covert operations? Do you use it at all or ignore whole feature?
    In my previous game as Poland I used scout operation to get Koingsber (and East Prussia) faster. And thats all. In all war with Germany I didn't gather more points to do something similar. Too bad. ... Cost of Covert Operaions seems to me to high. No one likes features that cost you much but impact to the game is small. I still think that covert operations are good thing, but lowering costs of use (maybe in next patch?) would give more importance to this component of the game.

    What do you think about this covert operations?

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    I am trying to use it as Germany against USSR. But yes cost is too high I thing. It took a while to get those 20 point.

    I don not know whot to do with them. I shall wait and see how war ir going and where I can sepnd them

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    I pave the way for my tanks with scouting, so my spearhead can advance faster, and be faster followed by exploitation in the region. I sometimes sabotage where I see enemy tanks moving around. For another example I sabotage ahead of a landing, you sabotage the area where you drop paras or marines, and then land there knowing AI can't reinforce as fast.

    I agree their cost is on the expensive side, but it's not prohibitive for me... I accumulate those points ahead of wars, then use when it matters the most rather than spam all over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by delra View Post
    I accumulate those points ahead of wars, then use when it matters the most rather than spam all over.
    Yeah. I know that spaming kills this feature. Agree with you. But a little bit lower price gives us little bit more fun from gameplay. IMO.

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    How many leadership do you innvest in inteligence?

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    About 90% points in first few month of 36, than sth about 20 - 50%. It depends on how many spies dies in foregin country and what kind of missions I need.

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    1-5 points most of the time. Depending who I am playing. My spy distribution is still pretty much the same as the one I presented in the Beta AAR.

    I noticed lately (playing Estonia of all countries) that I can fairly cheaply steal tech from France/UK and a bit less cheaply from US using like 1 leadership to the task, and if I am backward enough (Italy, Soviets, Nat. China), spies will keep bringing new stuff pretty much all year round, sometimes letting me skip 3-4 tech levels if I get lucky.
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    For me, 1.8-2.0 on the espionage slider should give you enough spies for ~10 nations, but it still takes some time (about 3-5 months) to get enough for sabotage ops.
    -The policy of the American government is to leave their citizens free, neither restraining nor aiding them in their pursuits.
    -Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have ...
    -I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
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    i am giving f.e 4 point to inntelingce but I am not getting so many spies. I should get 1 spie per 2 days but it ir not so. Where are they? I have got only 6 - 7 and no more. What I am doing wrong?

    Where spies dissapear?

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    They go to countries you instructed them to go to - and probably get caught and killed there. You need to reduce the number of "evil" priorities abroad if you want to accumulate spies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daugela23 View Post
    i am giving f.e 4 point to inntelingce but I am not getting so many spies. I should get 1 spie per 2 days but it ir not so. Where are they? I have got only 6 - 7 and no more. What I am doing wrong?

    Where spies dissapear?
    As germany, i used sabotage area in place where i knew they would try to reinforce while my panzers spearheaded foward. Didnt want those pesky french tanks and inf coming in from the Maginot to reinforce those areas i needed to quickly get through to exploit a breakthrough. Actually worked too, noticeably. I was pretty happy with that and the covert operations. Now it seems the British and SU are really good at capturing my spies so its hard just to keep spies in those countries than accumulate points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronHead View Post
    As germany, i used sabotage area in place where i knew they would try to reinforce while my panzers spearheaded foward. Didnt want those pesky french tanks and inf coming in from the Maginot to reinforce those areas i needed to quickly get through to exploit a breakthrough. Actually worked too, noticeably. I was pretty happy with that and the covert operations. Now it seems the British and SU are really good at capturing my spies so its hard just to keep spies in those countries than accumulate points.
    The Majors do have good counterintelligence networks, so try to keep counter-counterespionage at level 3 to keep their spies from finding your covert op spies. Its not full-proof, but it might help make sure your covert op points accumulate as fast as possible.

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