What reduces Mawimum War Exhaustion?

[przemo_li]

My first impresion was:

Why tha heck anyone would want to minimixe WE? But then I have read the rest.
Thx for enlightening me.

Also some small question:

Is there a way to increase max WE in somoebody else country?
Pesky french come to mind

And another:
How much WE comes out of naval battles?

[Iwanow]

Oh come on Iwanow,you must have some really bad ports or too few to not be able to have a decent navy,even as a full 5 Land(which is not the best choice to take full 5s either on Naval or in Land IMO unless you play SP)

Lol

Well, try building 300 big ships in XVI century, being russia. Or even when being ottomans. And naval country is soo going to have like 1k or more ships at the end of century.

[Gamera]

Well, didn't thought that thread would have that much success...

still to answer my initial question, I guess I listed every modifier about the WE in my first post?

[Iwanow]

My first impresion was:

Why tha heck anyone would want to minimixe WE? But then I have read the rest.
Thx for enlightening me.

Also some small question:

Is there a way to increase max WE in somoebody else country?
Pesky french come to mind

And another:
How much WE comes out of naval battles?

I dunno rly, but very much WE comes from blockades. Well it ofc. depend of % of ports/number of provinces. So Ottoman empire(country with ALOT of ports), just need to have at least DECENT fleet, because it have so many ports, that when it comes to blockade, its WE will propably be maxed out(and country like spain is very propable to make such, for any reason). Aspecialy with weak ottomans. And even strong ottomans, may have a problem fighting naval spain(aspecialy if spain is in good relations with france).

[przemo_li]

1 cog is enough to lure out any AI controlled fleet out. So if you can avoid DOOMSTACK fleets you are good to go. However AI Ottom can have problems here...

However I do think that WE is related only to percentage of blocked provinces. So bigger is better since enemy need to have bigger fleet.

[Iwanow]

1 cog is enough to lure out any AI controlled fleet out. So if you can avoid DOOMSTACK fleets you are good to go. However AI Ottom can have problems here...

However I do think that WE is related only to percentage of blocked provinces. So bigger is better since enemy need to have bigger fleet.

Nope, man. If i am russia and have 5 ports, i will gain much less WE than when i am ottomans and i have halformore of my provinces being ports. Anyways, it works for AI, maybe, but i beaten AI in fleet as poland, when my enemy was england, and blockaded it afterwards. But about fleet i spoke of MP games. In sp, you may be any country, and still have best fleet and army. And as ottoman empire, it is quite easy to conquer whole world, and laugh at england having petty 50 ships.

Anyways back to the topic...

Gamera :
I think you forgot about each ruler diplo point, decreasing the maximum WE by a little. Not remember the excact number.

[President_Eden]

These central points have not yet been rebutted with any degree of logical analysis:

(1) The difference between WE cap for max Narrowminded is not very big compared to max Innovative;
(2) You should almost never hit the WE cap and should never hit it with good play.

Given both of these, there is no reason to worry about the WE cap as a factor in your decisionmaking. One should focus on not taking on WE or taking on as little as possible, and where one can get WE reductions with no malus, do so, but no trade-off in the game between WE and another bonus is balanced; the other bonus will always be superior. End of story.

[Iwanow]

These central points have not yet been rebutted with any degree of logical analysis:

(1) The difference between WE cap for max Narrowminded is not very big compared to max Innovative;
(2) You should almost never hit the WE cap and should never hit it with good play.

Given both of these, there is no reason to worry about the WE cap as a factor in your decisionmaking. One should focus on not taking on WE or taking on as little as possible, and where one can get WE reductions with no malus, do so, but no trade-off in the game between WE and another bonus is balanced; the other bonus will always be superior. End of story.

As I told you, it is bullshit. Maybe in SP in most situation you can NOT take max WE in most of wars, but certainly it does not mean that it is bound with either you are good player or not, it is mostly tied with luck, and/or starting power of country you play(however a noob player may take more WE than experienced one, but if you fight war after war, as experienced player, it may be hard to keep WE low, but propably noob player would just lose in such situation while not gaining so much WE - just for example).

With point one i also do not agree, as it is around 5%+ difference, which is quite a lot and important.

Of course, ussualy the reasons for moving a sliders, are numerous. Moving to narrow, makes your country more stable, and increase number of missionaries you gain, which in case of multireligious empire, is very important, as otherwise, you DO need to take tolerance NI's, which are as you state, waste of time(which with i do not fully agree). On contrary, decentralizing is bad, unless you do it with slider moves, but even so, it is not so it would be not worth to do move just to get decrease of max WE.

Anyway, when i think of fighting a war, WE is never my main concern. Not like i tend to keep it high, but i don't realy care if it is high, as long, as i can defeat my enemy and win the war. If i quit to fight the war it is certainly not because i got high WE.

[AndrewT]

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