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    I'd personally be happy with a Cardinal College.

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    Actually, it was said that they wanted every faction to be playable eventually, with the exception of the Pope, not that they all definitely would be. Annoyingly, finding the quote is extremely hard (not least because Google can't crawl the Paradox site/forum properly.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alratan View Post
    Actually, it was said that they wanted every faction to be playable eventually, with the exception of the Pope, not that they all definitely would be. Annoyingly, finding the quote is extremely hard (not least because Google can't crawl the Paradox site/forum properly.)
    Doesn't help PI lacks any kind of "Dev Tracker" feature on its forum, as far as I'm aware. Would like to see the quote myself, as I recall the part about the Pope never being playable but I don't recall them saying flat-out that they wanted everyone else.

    If so... yaaaaaay, has to mean Pagans are high up the list! That, and Republics, as using the Lord Mayor of Ormond to conquer Ireland would be most funs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser Ludwig View Post
    I'd personally be happy with a Cardinal College.
    Yeah I dont think we should be able to Lead the papacy it self but we have cardinals and once the get to being to pope you can declare Crusades
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottishLegion View Post
    Yeah I dont think we should be able to Lead the papacy it self but we have cardinals and once the get to being to pope you can declare Crusades
    I agree, I don't think the Pope should be playable. The difficult part of a College of Cardinals however, is how to determine who should be on it? Should it be decided by what bishops have the highest learning skill? Or should it only be prince-bishops or price-archbishops? The downside to a game like CK2 when compared to M2:TW is there are so many factors to take into consideration when adding something like a College of Cardinals.
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    A cleverly made catholic politic system could be mighty awesome though.

    The Vatican was a very important politic entity.

    Ah well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMensch View Post
    I agree, I don't think the Pope should be playable. The difficult part of a College of Cardinals however, is how to determine who should be on it? Should it be decided by what bishops have the highest learning skill? Or should it only be prince-bishops or price-archbishops? The downside to a game like CK2 when compared to M2:TW is there are so many factors to take into consideration when adding something like a College of Cardinals.
    Very true, but a very simplified version could be...

    Automatically
    All King Archbishops
    Archbishops with >10 learning
    Prince-bishops with >15 learning
    Bishops with >20 learning and X Virtues / Mastermind Theo / X Piety / insert restriction


    And the liege of the following to be able to ask for a Cardinalship from the Pope for...
    All Court Chaplains of Empires
    Court Chaplains of Kingdoms with >15 learning
    Court Chaplains of Duchies with >20 learning
    Court Chaplains of Counties with >25 learning

    Empires and Kingdoms could get a bonus to asking, to simulate their "deserving" of having one of them, while Duchies are neutral and Counties maybe having a slight malus, "who are you from such a backwater to deserve it". Other modifiers could be Chaplain piety / prestige, type of Education trait (Learning traits mean a better chance), relation between liege and pope / chaplain and pope, liege piety, Crusader / Cynic / Zealous / Scholar / Mystic traits bonus/malus...

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    A pagan DLC would make WAY more sense than a republic one. This is a game about DYNASTIES, not countries. It would make way more sense to play as a pagan dynasty than to somehow incorporate an entirely different kind of political game into a medieval dynasty game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser Ludwig View Post
    Very true, but a very simplified version could be...snip...
    Nice. Now make a menu tab that shows the Pope's opinion towards each Catholic ruler. So I can finally use that excommunicate thing I keep getting messages about.
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    Pagan dlc would be nice. But haveing a advanced diplomacy system would be also realy helpfull. I hate it that you can only make alliances by marriage. Dammit i want to be able to help someone if i like to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varvs View Post
    Pagan dlc would be nice. But haveing a advanced diplomacy system would be also realy helpfull. I hate it that you can only make alliances by marriage. Dammit i want to be able to help someone if i like to.
    You can join their war in the diplomacy screen so I see no need other than they won't join yours.
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    Guys the new DLC the Aztec one do you think they will also add pagans?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottishLegion View Post
    Guys the new DLC the Aztec one do you think they will also add pagans?
    Yes, but in another MAJOR dlc. The Aztecs is just a fun scenerio to play in.

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    Pagan dlc with earlier starting date would be great.
    Imagine playing a Pagan Republic, that should be fun.

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    I would love playing pagans, hope that's the next dlc we'll get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser Ludwig View Post
    Very true, but a very simplified version could be...

    Automatically
    All King Archbishops
    Archbishops with >10 learning
    Prince-bishops with >15 learning
    Bishops with >20 learning and X Virtues / Mastermind Theo / X Piety / insert restriction


    And the liege of the following to be able to ask for a Cardinalship from the Pope for...
    All Court Chaplains of Empires
    Court Chaplains of Kingdoms with >15 learning
    Court Chaplains of Duchies with >20 learning
    Court Chaplains of Counties with >25 learning

    Empires and Kingdoms could get a bonus to asking, to simulate their "deserving" of having one of them, while Duchies are neutral and Counties maybe having a slight malus, "who are you from such a backwater to deserve it". Other modifiers could be Chaplain piety / prestige, type of Education trait (Learning traits mean a better chance), relation between liege and pope / chaplain and pope, liege piety, Crusader / Cynic / Zealous / Scholar / Mystic traits bonus/malus...
    Wow! That is a great idea. The only thing left would be to figure out how a Pope is elected. Is it straight relation modifiers?
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    Now with Republic and Pagan's coming out what do you think the play with theocracies will be like Teutonic order and Papal States?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottishLegion View Post
    Now with Republic and Pagan's coming out what do you think the play with theocracies will be like Teutonic order and Papal States?
    Bishoprics and Holy Orders... Yes. But they already say, that they don't want to make the Pope ever playable. (Everyone should be playable... Without the pope).

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