Forming the Mongol Empire

[Cyr]

So since getting MEIOU to work I have been playing near constantly(yay summer!) one of the two nations I've been playing as is the Timurid Empire now here's the thing I don't want to form the Mughal Empire I want to form the Mongol Empire how is this done, can someone say the requirements as I'm having a hard time understanding them in the decision's code.

[NorwayBernd]

Firstly, unless you mod the decision, you cannot form the Mongol Empire as the Timurids.


Secondly, you have to be in either the Altaic or Tartar culture group. You have to be a horde (which is why Timurids cannot form it), and it obviously must not exist from before.

"check_variable = { which = "claim_on_altaic_throne" value = 30 }" means that you need to own at least 30 provinces in the Steppes or Siberia regions. It can also be a combination of the two.

If you want to be able to form it as the Timurid Empire, simply change the decision code to this:

	mongol_nation = {
		potential = {
			OR = {
				culture_group = altaic
				culture_group = tartar_group
			}
			OR = {
				nomad = yes
				tag = TIM
			}
			NOT = { exists = GGK }
		}
		allow = {
			officials = 4	#GG
			is_subject = no
			war = no
			check_variable = { which = "claim_on_altaic_throne" value = 30 }
		}
		effect = {
			officials = -4	#GG
			random_owned = {
				limit = {
					culture_group = altaic
					is_capital = no
				}
				base_tax = 1
			}
			capital_scope = {
				base_tax = 1
			}
			centralization_decentralization = -1
			prestige = 0.05
			change_tag = GGK
			any_province = {
				limit = {
					OR = {
						region = steppes
						region = siberia
					}
					citysize = 100
				}
				add_core = THIS
			}
		}
		ai_will_do = {
			factor = 1
		}
		ai_importance = 400
	}

I'm guessing it was deemed too easy to form as the Timurids.

[SirkTheMonkey]

Requirements:
- Be in either the Altaic or Tartar culture groups
- Be a nomad
- Mongol Empire doesn't already exist
- The usual nation formation stuff (officials, independent, peace)
- 30 points on Claim on Altaic Throne

What's Claim on Altaic Throne? Every province you or your vassals/juniors own in the Steppes and Siberia regions gives you 1 point. Points are tallied up yearly or so (whenever you get the Yearly On Action events which grant you the bonus or penalty for a year). Steppes are Western Russia, the area that shows up on region map mode as greenish with blue stripes or brown with green stripes (I assume colours are the same between installs), and Siberia is the red coloured area where Siberia should logically be.

As the Timmies, you start off in the Central Asia region and are a fair distance away from both the Steppes and Siberia regions. There's also an annoying blob of provinces that currently don't have a region so they don't count.

(EDIT) Seems that NorwayBernd emu'd me. Interesting that the Timurids aren't a horde. Follow NorwayBernd's advice.

[Cyr]

Okay thanks people

[gigau]

I have to look at the Timurids again. In my current games, it expands quite a lot. I need to find a way to regulate their advance...

[NorwayBernd]

I have to look at the Timurids again. In my current games, it expands quite a lot. I need to find a way to regulate their advance...

Why? That's what happened historically: they expanded crazily.

The only problem is that they conquer Chatagai and the White Horde instead of Persia.

[gigau]

Why? That's what happened historically: they expanded crazily.

The only problem is that they conquer Chatagai and the White Horde instead of Persia.

I have a solution for that (the not conquest of PErsia part), i think.

But right now, they expand like crazy, but never crumble as they historically did at Timur's death.

[SirkTheMonkey]

But right now, they expand like crazy, but never crumble as they historically did at Timur's death.

Would it be possible to inflict Wrath of God on them after Timur's death? Surely that would break them.

[gigau]

Would it be possible to inflict Wrath of God on them after Timur's death? Surely that would break them.

Maybe, that's going a little too far (unless the ruler is really lousy), but at least stop the War Dynamism bonus the Timurids get (or tie it to a Timurid leader with sufficient MIL value).